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The article introduction is preceded by what looks to be coding for an infobox. I don't want to just erase it, because I'm sure it contains very good information, so can someone who knows how clean it up? Thanks! - Fsotrain09 22:12, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
I am surprised to see no reference to Narmad in history of the language. Npindia 11:35, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
I removed this from the intro paragraph for being innappropriate for the article topic and an un-substanstantiated claim (some estimates):
In addition, this could easily be offensive (if not much more carefully stated) to Gujarati Americans and other Indian Americans. - Taxman 13:14, Aug 23, 2004 (UTC)
I would like to state here Khordeh Avesta is the sacred prayer book of the Parsis Zoroastrians in India. Avesta is basically a language ( and a separate topic in itself to discuss ). But since most of the Parsis having migrated from Iran and having lost touch with the old language like Indians / Hindus loosing touch with Sanskrit. But the prayer book is written using Gujarati/Devanagari script but the pronounciations are of Avesta language in which the prayers are composed ( User : Fredy Udwadia / fredyudwadia@rediffmail.com ) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.227.130.42 ( talk) 11:57, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Gujarathi is NOT the 23'rd most spoken language.........it is 25th according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers
There are only 2 'official' languages in India....hindi and english. There are 22 'national' languages which includes the major 'regional' languages - pls refer Indian consttution
I made some revisions to the article. There were lots of grammatical and spelling mistakes, redundant sentences, and inaccurate or inappropriate pieces of information. I didn't add anything new, as I am not an expert on Gujarati, but I am a linguist specializing in Indic languages so I felt I could remove some of the extraneous or inaccurate information. Please message me if you have any questions or comments about my revisions. -- SameerKhan 08:12, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
One would gather from the contents of this article that Gujarati is a recent language with Indo Aryan origins which in turn have linkages with the proto Latin Greek languages.
It needs to be found out what language was being spoken in sunken Dwarka that has been subject of marine archaeologists of late. It is to be found out whether those who constructed such advanced urban infrastructures, as also described in Mahabharat, etc.had any written script more than 5,000 years ago. It also needs to be found out if the sunken Mahabalipuram said to be more than 10,000 years ago, had any script. Whether Dwarka and Mahabalipuram have any linkages.
It probably is time now that marine archaeology be afforded more attention in tracing the origin of written languages.
It probably also is time for emerging out of eurocentric perspective of the world that has been propagated since some time now to be able to correctly interpret available information on development of languages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.220.87.132 ( talk) 13:24, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm a little confused. What is the point of including Hindi in the grammar charts? It makes it seem like all languages in India descend from Hindi, which is obviously ridiculously far from the truth. -- SameerKhan 02:51, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Actually, I think I will remove the Hindi. You're right, this is an English page about Gujarati, why should Hindi come into play? A comparison with Hindi is what the Hindi Wikipedia version of this topic is for! Tuncrypt 22:12, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
I agree that including Hindi translations in this article isn't relevant. However it could be nice to have such charts in the Indo-Aryan languages article. BernardM 17:00, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
An anonymous editor keeps adding a sentence to the article on Salwar kameez saying that the Gujarati word for this outfit is zobha. Is this true, or is the anon having us on? Zora 07:04, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
In the Passive section there was some violation of the romanization rules [ here] I have fixed it but the page should be monitored so that no one removes the [[IAST] Thegreyanomaly 23:41, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
First of all, I must say the grammar section of this article is fantastic. Very thorough. My only problem with it is that it's far too extensive for this article. It has become the bulk of the text, in fact. All of this information really should be moved into a Gujarati grammar article, as has been done for other languages (e.g. Japanese grammar, Bengali grammar, English grammar, etc.). A significantly abridged version of the grammar section can remain. I can do this myself, but I figured that the editors responsible for most of the grammar section can be in charge of choosing what stays in and what remains only in the Gujarati grammar article. -- SameerKhan 23:51, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Tuncrypt, I'm not very experienced at Gujarati but I've always read conjuncts forms such as આવ્યું or કહ્યું for past tenses. I've read various sources such as newspapers, magazines about Hindu religion and about cinema, a book to learn English from Gujarati, "Teach Yourself Gujarati", etc, but have never seen this ending without the conjunct form. What makes you think it should be written the other way? BernardM 23:29, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
how can someone have missed out the word "minute", its used so commonly and yet it is an english word!. i'd add it but i dont have any gujarati characters!
I also would like to add on the Wikipedia Indonesian language page it says "Indonesian words derived from Portuguese include sabun (from sabão = soap), meja (from mesa = table)," The Gujarati article mentions "sabão = soap" but not "mej" which is in Gujarati means "table" also. Can anyone confirm if Gujarati lifted this from Portuguese? PovertyEradication ( talk) 20:27, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
A transliteration of those common phrases at the bottom of the page would be nice for those of us who can't read Gujarati. Lost4eva 22:05, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
In the "Common Words, Phrases, and Idioms" section, it says that "āvjo" means "bye" but is literally translated as "come". How can this be? I myself thought that "āvjo" meant "come" anyway. Yoshiroshin 22:36, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Beside the Gujarati sign I took a photo of was an English translation. Here it is :
Gandhiji's hut - Karadi
Here under the mango tree in the hut made of palm leaves (khajoori) Gandhiji stayed from 14-4-1930 to 4-5-1930 after the world famous Dandi march.
From here he gave impetus to the civil disobedience movement for breaking the salt act started on April 6 at Dandi and turned it into a nation wide movement.
It was also from this place that he wrote a letter to the British viceroy expressing his firm resolve to march to the salt works at Dharasana.
This is the place from where he was arrested by the British government after midnight on May 4, 1930.
By the way I like the idea of using it as a sample text. I'll try to find a more fun picture for a global illustration. BernardM 17:16, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
I've uploaded to commons two pictures that could be used as general illustration for this article and/or for the script article. They are Image:Fruit juice shop in Navsari.jpg and Image:Kameshvar temple sign.jpg. Where could we should put them? Which one do you prefer? BernardM 19:01, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
What about creating a separate article for Gujarati phonology? The section is becoming quite heavy. We could keep what people with limited linguistics skills can understand in the main article and move remaining stuff to a new article. BernardM 09:02, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Gujarati | Meaning | Portuguese |
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istrī | iron | estirar1 |
mistrī 2 | carpenter | mestre3 |
sābu | soap | sabão |
cāvī | key | chave |
tamāku | tobacco | tabaco |
kobī | cabbage | couve |
cāju | cashew | caju |
pāuṃ | bread | pão |
baṭāko | potato | batata |
anānas | pineapple | ananás |
pādrī | ' father' | padre |
aṅgrej(ī) | English | inglês |
Sorry, but what kind of key does "cāvī" mean, I'm assuming it's this, right? — May the Edit be with you, always. ( T| C) 19:42, 19 July 2007 (UTC)hi all
I see that the low vowel of Gujarati is transcribed in IPA as [ɑ]. Is there a particular source that transcribes the sound this way? Considering that it's labeled as a low central vowel, one would expect [a], and from the pronunciations I've heard, it sounds like [a]. The vowel [ɑ] is a back vowel, like that of American English 'got' [gɑt] or 'body' [bɑɾi]. I noticed the same strange transcription in the Hindi article, but there is a reference for that transcription (even though it seems inaccurate to me). -- SameerKhan ( talk) 09:23, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Very strange indeed! Outside of descriptions of Indic languages (but also in some descriptions of Indic languages), as far as I've seen, /a/ is used far more often to describe a low central vowel without any particular rounding or fronting or backing, although yes, /a/ can also mean a low front vowel. I agree that in languages that only have one low vowel, /ɐ/ sounds like the best transcription. -- SameerKhan ( talk) 00:16, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Need Gujarati script for vagar at the Chaunk article. Badagnani ( talk) 03:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Can someone please write in Gujarati in native script "Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year"? I've got this romanisation: "Natal ni shub kaamnao Saal Mubarak" but if this inaccurate, please fix. -- Anatoli ( talk) 05:32, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
"Saal Mubarak" is not traditional Gujarati, but rather an Urdu influence. Traditional Gujarati is "Newton varsha abhinandan" and it should be noted that this is not literally "happy new year," wich would be transliterated as "Khuśa navuṁ varṣa" but means "greetings/felicitations for the new year." PovertyEradication ( talk) 20:34, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
Legenary rock star Freddie Mercury was probably one of the most prominent native gujarati speakers. He was from a Parsi family. I just can't find any good sources for gujarati as his native language. If anyone can, please do so and add this to the 'prominent speakers' part of this article. Thanks! Alex Ex ( talk) 16:58, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Bold text PANNABHAI T SUTHAR AT-POST; VAGHASAN, TA; THARAD, DIST; BANASKANTHA, GUJARAT 385566 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.61.155.57 ( talk) 08:06, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
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I really had to hunt around for any hint of Gujarati in the photo purporting to show that Gujarati has achieved "high linguistic prominence" in certain U.S. neighborhoods, even after I magnified the photo. I think maybe Gujarati appears on one of the banners on a lightpost, but all the other signs are in English. Is there a better photo to illustrate this assertion? Moncrief ( talk) 17:14, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
I'm also mystified by the caption for this photo [1] in the article, when it says that "Note that 'Fruit Juice Centre' is in English." I've studied the photo, and I don't see anything in English, not that phrase or anything else. If the caption is asking us to note that the translation in the caption itself is in English, this seems too self-evident to be noted. I assume it's referring to the sign in the photo, but, again, I don't see any English there. What am I missing? Moncrief ( talk) 19:58, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
https://archive.org/details/adictionaryguja00edalgoog
https://archive.org/details/studentsgujarati00tayl
https://archive.org/details/principlesgujar00ramsgoog
https://archive.org/details/gujaratiexercise00youn
https://archive.org/details/journaloftravels00moos
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