This talk page is for discussing the reliability of sources for use in video game articles. If you are wondering if a video game source is reliable enough to use on Wikipedia, this is the place to ask.
When posting a new topic, please add a link to the topic on the Video Game Sources Checklist after the entry for the site. If an entry for the site does not exist, create one for it and include the link to the topic afterward. Also, begin each topic by adding {{ subst:find video game sources|...site name...|linksearch=...site URL...}} in order to provide other users with some easily accessible links to check up on the source.
Index
1,
2,
3,
4,
5,
6,
7,
8,
9,
10 |
This page has archives. Sections older than 30 days may be automatically archived by Lowercase sigmabot III when more than 4 sections are present. |
| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Find video game sources: "GMR" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · TWL · NYT · WP reference · VG/RS · VG/RL · WPVG/Talk · LinkSearch · URL... LinkTo
GMR is a Ziff Davis US magazine that provided computer and console game reviews from 2003 to 2005. The magazine had an editorial board and the magazines were closely linked to online content on the 1Up Network website, a reliable source under WP:VG/S. Given the publisher, plenty of the contributors turn up in other reliable sources, such as Greg Orlando, Che Chou and Ryan Scott. The only thing that is unusual is that the magazines were sold in Electronics Boutique. But it's a Ziff Davis publication and the review scores suggest this had no more of an impact on editorial independence than compared to other magazine reviews. You can find all the issues on the Internet Archive.
Find video game sources: "Sporta Centrs" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · TWL · NYT · WP reference · VG/RS · VG/RL · WPVG/Talk · LinkSearch · LinkTo
SportaCentrs.com (LV Wikipedia) is a Latvian (non-English) media that publishes information about sports and also eSports.
The site was launched in 2002 and they have a professional team of journalists about sports and esports: https://parmums.sportacentrs.com/redakcija.html
Find video game sources: "Punished Backlog" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · TWL · NYT · WP reference · VG/RS · VG/RL · WPVG/Talk · LinkSearch · LinkTo
This source seems quite reliable to me. Their reviews are proper, and look neat. JuniperChill ( talk) 20:50, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
I'm not seeing any evidence that other reliable sources are quoting them. All in all, feels like a well done but still young group blog.. So consider this a clear Unreliable for now. -- ferret ( talk) 14:16, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Find video game sources: "OnlySP" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · TWL · NYT · WP reference · VG/RS · VG/RL · WPVG/Talk · LinkSearch · LinkTo
Stumbled across this cited on Desmond Miles. The site is defunct, but while the article in question was decently written ( [1]), looking at the Staff page (which was apparently under construction for awhile) and the About Us page doesn't given the highest confidence as it leaves me to worry it's more just a project between friends. Checking the EiC's background too turned up nothing I could fine other than some mentions of other writing and the usual "professional gamer" stuff.
Hoping I'm missing something here. Kung Fu Man ( talk) 14:11, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I've seen this source that have been used almost everywhere and it feels like we need a consensus for this if this is reliable or not. 🍕 Boneless Pizza!🍕 ( 🔔) 02:37, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
Find video game sources: "Cheat Code Central" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · TWL · NYT · WP reference · VG/RS · VG/RL · WPVG/Talk · LinkSearch · LinkTo I was cleaning something up and saw this cited and was about to remove the article before I recognized the author's name, Jenni Lada, on the page. She's a longtime Siliconera writer, and currently their Editor in Chief. Looking a bit deeper, I noticed the last time the site was discussed on here was 2015, and checking wayback the site at the time didn't have a staff page. Now it appears to, listing an editor with some credentials, and the website's publisher, which lists it's own staff here. There's a section at the bottom that lists the writers, and going to their individual pages they appear to have some credentials as well.
Is it worth reconsidering after all this time? Kung Fu Man ( talk) 03:52, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
EDIT: To clarify, I am suggesting more in the lines of their editorial pieces such as this, not the list barrage.-- Kung Fu Man ( talk) 04:09, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
Find video game sources: "Garaph" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · TWL · NYT · WP reference · VG/RS · VG/RL · WPVG/Talk · LinkSearch · LinkTo
According to the website, it lists "Japanese video game sales data" and I can't find it on Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources so I believe its reliability is to be discussed especially as it is used in the Mario Party 4 good article. DanganMachin ( talk) 12:45, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
Find video game sources: "The Game of Nerds" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · TWL · NYT · WP reference · VG/RS · VG/RL · WPVG/Talk · LinkSearch · LinkTo
This is another website used in the
Mario Party 4 good article which is absent from
Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources. Articles seem to be user-generated but I am not sure.
DanganMachin (
talk)
12:51, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
Find video game sources: "Game Donga" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · TWL · NYT · WP reference · VG/RS · VG/RL · WPVG/Talk · LinkSearch · LinkTo
Game Donga is a video game-focused news website based in South Korea and established in 2004. It's a joint venture of Donga Dotcom and "Game Gru", the latter of which I can't find any information of. Donga Dotcom is a digital publication division of The Dong-A Ilbo, a newspaper founded in 1920 and a well known news media. However, its About Us page and nature of being a joint venture suggest The Dong-A Ilbo has little-to-none direct quality control over this website. It has been rebranded to IT Donga since 2018, but the website itself including the URL still goes by Game Donga.
About Us lists the current journalists working for this particular group, but most of their introduction reveal little about their career. The editor-in-chief, Jeong Dongbeom (정동범), has no known record before joining Game Donga. One notable journalist is Jo Hakdong (조학동), who has a LinkedIn page. He appears to be one of general managers, claims to be Virtua Fighter 3 tournament winner, and co-authored a book, Smart Phone Game Global Service Guide, published by Korea Creative Content Agency. I found the digital copy on the agency's homepage, but I can't find his name in this and therefore can't tell if he really wrote this. As far as I know, none of these personnels had any turstworthy journalism experience prior. I could't find editorial policy.
And the articles... I figured any recap would be underselling what's going on in this website, so I'm gonna translate a few:
I should mention these were written by three different authors, one of which is Jo Hakdong I mentioned earlier, who did Article 1.
My verdict on Game Donga is that it fails WP:RS to be of any use. Despite its connection with reputable Dong-A Ilbo, this was barely translated into creating useful contents and the website is run by people without credentials, a fact clearly shown in its articles, providing on flame baits rather than actual reporting. It has a habit of information laundering, like Article 4, which tries to spin a tweet by insignificant person as a general opinion even though there's no grounded proof to assume so. I suggest this website be marked unreliable. Emiya Mulzomdao ( talk) 13:48, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
It seems the media apocalypse has claimed another one. :( This was previously discussed at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Video_games/Sources/Archive_25#Fanbyte , which leaned toward maybe reliable since it had some known names on the "About" page ( 2022 version), and Fanbyte is currently marked "other reliable". Unfortunately, lots (all?) of these names don't appear to work there anymore, including EIC Danielle Riendeau ( https://twitter.com/Danielleri says she's at GameDev, https://x.com/imranzomg?lang=en says "formerly" Fanbyte, https://x.com/hunktears says "formerly" Fanbyte). If we advance to the 2023 version, their about page is merely a redirect to their bare-bones help page about subscriptions to WOWhead and refunds and such. And after mid-2023, they took down the About page entirely. The current Fanbyte front page is just game-guidey stuff for a handful of popular games designed to match search terms ("Best Build for Lyney Main DPS", "Best Build for Arlecchino Main DPS", etc.). Anna Koselke appears to be a known name at least, but she's also churning out listicles. It unfortunately seems clear that some savage cutbacks happened, and they're just barely keeping the lights on with low-effort, low-paid stuff. I think that Fanbyte post-2023 should probably be downgraded to situational. SnowFire ( talk) 06:13, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
I was editing the Billy Mitchell article when I came across this source. I'm unsure if it's unreliable, so I'm starting a discussion here. — lunaeclipse ( talk) 00:41, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Find video game sources: "Gamerjive" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · TWL · NYT · WP reference · VG/RS · VG/RL · WPVG/Talk · LinkSearch · LinkTo
Pretty open and shut case for unreliable. Seems to use AI to write articles ( "Useless Rising"?), given they're also pretty blatantly stolen from other publications. Kung Fu Man ( talk) 23:36, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
Find video game sources: "TheXboxHub" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · TWL · NYT · WP reference · VG/RS · VG/RL · WPVG/Talk · LinkSearch · LinkTo
I'm currently finding sources to create a potential Garten of BanBan article. There is currently one promising source, Stephanie Sterling's The Jimquisition. There's also this review from TheXboxHub. They (XboxHub) are on Metacritic and seem to have some decent writers there. One of them even wrote a science textbook. I could see this being situational though, as some writers do not have any experience prior to joining the website's staff. — lunaeclipse ( talk) 00:33, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Find video game sources: "FandomWire" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · TWL · NYT · WP reference · VG/RS · VG/RL · WPVG/Talk · LinkSearch · LinkTo
Hi. Since the site FandomWire is not yet listed in Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources, I need a confirmation on whether or not the site is reliable. Thanks. PrimalMustelid ( talk) 22:42, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
Find video game sources: "Fortress of Solitude" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · TWL · NYT · WP reference · VG/RS · VG/RL · WPVG/Talk · LinkSearch · LinkTo
Found a new 12 game list. By the way its worded seems unordered. Would like it added to the database — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alena 33 ( talk • contribs) 21:37, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
Find video game sources: "ThisIsGame" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · TWL · NYT · WP reference · VG/RS · VG/RL · WPVG/Talk · LinkSearch · LinkTo
ThisIsGame is a video game news media website created in 2005 and based in South Korea. It was founded by former newspaper journalist, Im Sanghun, and provides up-to-date news for both domestic and foreign video gaming. It does field reports and interviews frequently, with the recent ones including Kim Hyung-tae ( [2]), Faker ( [3]), John Hanke ( [4]), Overwatch 2 developers ( [5]), and Lies of P developers ( [6]).
ThisIsGame has corporate partnerships with other news media, both within and outside of its country. It has had an official partnership with Gamasutra (currently Game Developer) for a long time (the exact start year is hard to pinpoint, but I think it's around 2009), providing each other with their articles and translating them into their language. I can confirm this is true; this ThisIsGame article from 2019 and this Gamasutra article from 2011 note they were translated from each other. This ThisIsGame article from April 2024 mentions the partnership with Game Developer again, meaning they're still working together. Other known partner companies of ThisIsGame include 17173, a Chinese video game portal, and QooApp, a mobile game news website. I can't find much about these.
It should be noted the website celebrates its anniversary with congrats and artworks and others from video game companies, mostly domestic but some foreign. In its 16th anniversary in 2021, it received them from Kakao Games, Arc System Works, Mihoyo, Blizzard Entertainment, and more. Their 14th anniversary prior has messages from Nintendo, Epic Games, Riot Games, and Bandai Namco. This doesn't give them credentials, but it does show it has connections to general video game industry and doesn't just exist in a vacuum.
Its About Us page is lackluster, which is par for the course for Korean online media in general. It has a vague introduction of its goal of discussing online video games and offering critiques of the current video gaming. Not a lot of words about its editorial policy. There doesn't seem to be a comprehensive list of employees, so I decided to dig up some records of authors myself and found these four people, of which the first two give the website significant credentials:
My overall verdict on ThisIsGame is generally positive. It has affliation with tons of well-established companies, which include well-known developers ( Mihoyo, Nexon, Blizzard Entertainment, and Krafton) and reliable sources in our list ( Gamasutra). It has at least two experienced individuals with credentials (Simon Lim and Hyeon Namil) who, as the founder and the general manager respectively, appear to oversee the press and the quality of the articles. Their footprints outside of the website, like the Gamasutra articles, are also noted. Its ambiguously worded editorial policy and the lack of a list for its journalists are a concern, but not enough to undermine these factors. My opinion is this can be considered valid. Emiya Mulzomdao ( talk) 13:04, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Find video game sources: "SegmentNext" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · TWL · NYT · WP reference · VG/RS · VG/RL · WPVG/Talk · LinkSearch · LinkTo
Seen this one in a couple of articles. Can we get a consensus here? ภץאคгöร 14:34, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
I need a consensus for this if this is reliable or not. 🍕 Boneless Pizza!🍕 ( 🔔) 14:07, 6 July 2024 (UTC)