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File:Diet vanilla coke original logo.jpg has been nomianted for deletion -- 65.94.79.6 ( talk) 07:56, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
image:Château Rauzan-Ségla 1993.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 ( talk) 01:32, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
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Portal tag changed from Food and drink to Medicine for the "Phenylacetic acid" talk page for reasons stated on that page. Tungstic ( talk) 01:14, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
can anyoune make an article? http://via.sawd.ch/index.php?q=aHR0cDovL3JidGguYXNpYS9hcnRpY2xlcy8yMDEyLzA4LzIxL2tvcmVhbl9jYXJyb3RfMTY0MDUuaHRtbA%3D%3D ( Idot ( talk) 11:05, 6 July 2013 (UTC))
This article on a resort region/ bottled water product is nominated for deletion. Candleabracadabra ( talk) 22:58, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
Very quiet here.. but if anyone wants to lend a hand I started articles on:
Gracias. Candleabracadabra ( talk) 00:44, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
Today's FA is Pisco Sour - both words capitalised - but it refers to a Whiskey sour (capitalised in the Pisco Sour article but not capitalised in its own article). Are there any guidelines for how these names ought to be capitalised? Colonies Chris ( talk) 10:05, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
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image:Stefanos Olive Oil inside gift box.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 ( talk) 07:07, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
I like to have advice to quell an upcoming editwar. The conflict is about a section about the suicide of Bernard Loiseau and the role of the Michelin Guide. The discussion can be found here: Talk:Michelin_Guide#Chef_Suicide The Banner talk 20:33, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
image:Hershey's Cookies 'n' Creme Cereal.JPG has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 ( talk) 05:52, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
The usage of Imlek ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is under discussion, see Talk:Imlek (company) -- 76.65.128.222 ( talk) 04:59, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
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There's a Vietnamese food titling RM stuck at Talk:Bun rieu, a bit of input from WP Foodies :) might unstick it either way. In ictu oculi ( talk) 02:56, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
It would be good if all edible food articles had a thorough fat composition breakdown somewhere.
The top of rice bran oil is a good example
Please consider adding trans fat content when they are found, even <0.5g /100g, as studies have found them to be the most harmful to man and should be avoided where possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.200.171.37 ( talk) 05:14, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
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I've nominated Everything Tastes Better with Bacon at WP:TFAR for consideration for International Bacon Day.
More info at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests.
— Cirt ( talk) 19:36, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
If anyone is up to the task, the article Lyonnaise cuisine could use some work. I've just finished copy-editing what was already placed there. It seems someone just took the French Wikipedia page, and threw it into Google translator without any knowledge of French (or English, maybe). I retranslated a bunch of it myself to make it more sensible, but I haven't transferred the references. There is also a large portion of the article which was not translated, so that, now, the present English article doesn't even list common Lyonnaise dishes. If anyone is handy with French, it would be nice if they'd continue the translation. RGloucester — 📬 21:02, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
"Al fresco dining is eating outside (from the Spanish words "al fresco" = outside, at a fresh temperature)."
I don't know Spanish but I'm Italian and "al fresco" is used here too, so I'm not sure it comes from Spanish.
Here are some links that say it's Italian:
The Free Dictionary: Alfresco
Wordreference: Fresco
About.com: Al Fresco Dining
However, I didn't find anything that say it's Spanish.
In Italy, al fresco (where it's fresh) is not really used to say "dining outdoor", we use instead all'aperto (mangiare all'aperto), but we still use "al fresco" in related contexts (like vado fuori al fresco, I'm going outside where it's fresh), this is why I think it's italian.
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FYI, there's a proposal to create a chocolate task force under WPFOOD, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Chocolate Task Force -- 76.65.128.222 ( talk) 05:59, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
I have updated Missing topics about Food - Skysmith ( talk) 10:22, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
File:Vanilla flavoured frijj.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 ( talk) 05:50, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Apple, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article.-- FutureTrillionaire ( talk) 23:12, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
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Dear food experts: This article has been sitting in the Afc for over two weeks. Would someone like to review it? — Anne Delong ( talk) 22:20, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Just a notice that I added the attribute "title" to the template. I want to include it on my userpage to make it easier to get where I want to go quickly, and I realized that "Related WikiProjects" was not the most logical name to appear on my userpage. I wanted to override that, but there was no way short of hacking the template, so I did, and now you don't have to. You're welcome. :-) — Willscrlt ( “Talk” ) 08:18, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi. I know I have been out of this topic for... oh... a couple of years. I was just following some links over on en.books that link back into this WikiProject, and they were all broken. I'm trying to figure out where to relink them to, but I'm getting confused.
On en.books, we started a WikiProject there called Wikibooks:WikiProject Bartending. We set up a sister task force here called WikiProject Food and drink/Bartending Task Force. It was accessible under the shortcut of WP:BAR, which is now a disambiguation page (and I understand why, given the other more-well-known things also linked there). WP:BART was a shortcut to the Talk page under WP:BAR, but I see it now points directly to the task force page instead (and I'm fine with that change). This task force is listed on the WP:F&D main page under Related WikiProjects.
There used to be a full-fledged WikiProject for all mixed drinks. It was originally named "WikiProject Cocktails", but was later renamed "WikiProject Mixed Drinks". After participation levels dropped, it became a "task force" instead of a full-fledged WikiProject, and the name was changed to Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink/Mixed Drinks Task Force ( WP:MIX). On the current WP:F&D main page, I could find no mention of of this task force. The only way I located it was by typing in WP:MIX in the search box. Thankfully, that shortcut still works.
Was it the intention of the WP:F&D participants to do away with WP:MIX, probably by merging it into WP:BART? There were some subtle differences in scope between the two projects/task forces. WP:MIX was concerned with the drinks themselves, the garnishes, and the historical aspects of the drinks. WP:BART was more focused on the occupation (bartenders, cocktail waitressing/waitering, mixology, etc.) and the facilities (including significant bars and night clubs). I don't remember which one drinkware/glassware fell under, and the lines between the two were somewhat blurry at times. This was further confused by having different project names on different sister wikis for much the same topical areas. (This is similar to the parent project being called "WikiProject Food and drink" here and "WikiProject Food and Beverages" on Commons, and on WikiBooks the subject being split between the Cookbook and the Bartending Guide, which operate completely independently from each other).
I don't really see much point in maintaining separate task forces for WP:MIX and WP:BART here. At least not anymore. I'd be happy rolling it all under one name or the other. But which one?
If we roll it under Bartending, there are several non-alcoholic mixed drinks that would become somewhat out-of-scope (like a non-fat soy latte, punch (mixed drink), etc.). While they may be perfectly valid mixed drinks, they aren't commonly associated with bars.
If we roll it under Mixed Drinks, then bartenders, bars, night clubs, and the professions fall out of scope.
Maybe we rename and merge? Something like (and I hate the length of these): Bartending and Mixed Drinks Task Force ( WP:BAMDTF? WP:BAMD? WP:BMD?) or Mixed Drinks and Bartending Task Force( WP:MDABTF? WP:MDAB? WP:MDB?) Or maybe we can come up with some other cute (and shorter) name that encompasses all of it?
Name changes may require updating several templates (stubs, talk page headers, linking templates, navboxes, infoboxes, and probably more). It's not something to do on a whim.
On the other hand, maybe we just keep both task forces as-is. It certainly would be the easier option. However, if we do that, let's be sure to add WP:MIX back into the lists of Related WikiProjects and give it equal footing with WP:BART.
While we figure all of this out, I'm just going to point WikiBooks links to either Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink/Mixed Drinks Task Force or Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink/Bartending Task Force, whichever seems the most appropriate. Then we can redirect those to the most logical place down the road if we need to. Even after any move, we probably should keep those pages in place as landing pages for interwiki links.
I'd appreciate everyone's feedback and suggestions on how to proceed. — Willscrlt ( “Talk” ) 20:06, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi everyone! If you rarely venture outside of the English Wikipedia (or en.wiki), then you are missing some other great resources. There are two WikiProjects related to this one on our sister sites.
The first is on the English Wikibooks (or en.books), and it is called Wikibooks:WikiProject Bartending. It is a direct sibling of our own Bartending Task Force. Please take a look at the new structure for the List of cocktails in the Wikibooks Bartending Guide. That page used to be just a dumping ground for cocktail recipes from en.wiki. It's starting to turn into a viable resource on its own. If you want to help convert the free-form cocktail entries that fill that page into something more attractive and orderly, I'd love the help.
The other project is probably of more interest to more people. It's the WikiProject Food and Beverages. COM:F&B covers all the same topical areas that we do. The difference is that instead of working on improving and organizing articles, on the Wikimedia Commons, we organize media (images, videos, etc.) and try to find new free media that will be useful here on Wikipedia and other WMF sites. Your help there would be really appreciated, too.
Please be aware that the culture and attitudes on most wikis outside of en.wiki is much more laid back. The rules are slightly different, too. We can do some things here, but not there, and vice-versa. Feel free to ask me questions if you have any.
If you know of any other closely related non-en.wiki projects with which we should be working closely, please let us know. That includes Wikipedia in other languages, too. There's a lot we can learn from one another, and a lot of work to get done. Many hands make light work. :-) — Willscrlt ( “Talk” ) 02:06, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
File:Aluminium-can-white.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 70.24.244.158 ( talk) 08:07, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
A new bot-assisted list for new food and drink articles has been created at User:AlexNewArtBot/FoodDrinkSearchResult. The bot has not updated the list yet. After this occurs, an idea is to transclude the list into a F&D project page, such as below the manually-listed new articles. Northamerica1000 (talk) 05:14, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
See talk:éclair (pastry) for a discussion on the name of the article -- 70.24.244.158 ( talk) 03:47, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
image:Eurocrem packages.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 70.24.244.158 ( talk) 05:59, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
How should the subject of food halls be treated? Is there anything to distinguish them from food courts? Candleabracadabra ( talk) 00:37, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Happy to have help with this new article. I also think articles would be good to have on:
If these subject are covered in existing articles, redirects might also be worth considering. Candleabracadabra ( talk) 04:01, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Category:Baseball foods, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Liz Read! Talk! 12:51, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
File:Queen's Taste, English Quality Biscuits, George Weston Limited, ca 1922.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 70.24.249.39 ( talk) 06:16, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
FYI, PUF deletion nominations and speedy deletion nominations are not posted as part of Article Alerts. If you compared what I posted with what's actually listed by the bot, you'd have noticed they don't appear on the bot produced list. If you wish the Article Alerts bot to function more efficiently, please add the WPFOOD banner to all material which you wish to be alerted to, as it will not inform you of deletion nominations for untagged pages (like files, which seem to not have WPFOOD banners atttached for the most part; or templates or categories) -- 70.24.249.39 ( talk) 22:24, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
Why is this listed as a negative health effect for every food? Not everyone in the world is concerned about obesity. Very U.S. centric. USDA nutrition facts and references are also everywhere. Example: USDA beef grading has its own section in the beef article but other grading systems don't. It would be good to mention the Japanese beef grading system. Many articles on generic foods shouldn't even have specific USDA nutrition facts as different variations will have different nutrition facts. ChocoBeast ( talk) 03:05, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
The Australian variety of Chinese food deserves a page. Similar to American but it needs to be done. Sir Langan ( talk) 06:55, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
Is anyone interested in adding a section to the Amish article on food and cuisine then breaking out a separate article on the subject? I was surprised that this subject isn't covered??? Seems worth doing. I'd be happy to help. Candleabracadabra ( talk) 19:20, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
Project members are welcome to come assist with the expansion of The Scarecrow (short film), a recently-released animated short film and advertisement about food that has received quite a bit of press (see talk page for sources). Any assistance is much appreciated! -- Another Believer ( Talk) 16:06, 26 September 2013 (UTC)