Thank you for participating in
my RfA, which passed unanimously with the support of 100 editors. Your kindness is very much appreciated. I look forward to using the tools you have granted me to aid the project. I would like to give special thanks to
Wizardman,
Black Falcon and
jc37 for nominating me. — Horologium
Technically, you are correct. Then again, the notice says “…may be shared…”. The information regarding the host, as well as the notice to admins about soft blocking, remains relevant, I believe. --
Avi (
talk)
18:29, 1 May 2008 (UTC)reply
I believe all of those templates should be saved for when the WHOIS says they are dynamic, but I could be wrong. Should I post this at the Village Pump, do you think? -
DiligentTerrier(and friends)18:31, 1 May 2008 (UTC)reply
If you wish. Drop me a link to the section if you do, please. Also, you may be interested in {{Whois}} as a replacement. --
Avi (
talk)
18:47, 1 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Thanks!
Hey Diligent Terrier, thanks for the offer, but I am already being adopted by someone else at the moment...Thanks for the offer though,
FYI -
User_talk:Jacob_Green696#Re:Adoption - I've suggested Jacob can go ahead and adopt Letter 7 even though he doesn't meet the AAU criteria, but I've suggested he ask you to be a co-adopter. Not sure if this is what prompted your question on the AAU talk page today.
xenocidic (
talk)
01:06, 2 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Sweet!! Thanks. I'll just change it a little so that the name is in Michigan State colors: blue and yellow. I'll also change the font. Danielaustinhall12 (Go
Wolverines!)
Another tip: you want to start using the edit summary a lot more. There are counters which measure this, and edit summary usage is one of the things editors look at when voting in a
RfA. -
DiligentTerrier(and friends)20:50, 2 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Hello
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BrownBot (
talk)
00:35, 3 May 2008 (UTC)reply
If you are willing, I would love for someone to explain the real hard parts of wikipedia. Leave me a comment on my talk page if you want.
Ejg930 (
talk)
16:51, 3 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Sorry, but I would like to do this one. This is probably going to be a one time use since Jj137 will be back. I hope you understand.--
RyRy5 (talk ♠
wikify)
22:32, 3 May 2008 (UTC)reply
You should keep the date already there, or else the Newsroom will be offtrack. It's supposed to say April 30. I already notified the problem on the newsletter.--
RyRy5 (talk ♠
wikify)
23:52, 3 May 2008 (UTC)reply
I haven't investigated the controversy you were involved in that whole time. Is there an old revision of the page I could see from that time? I went on a Wikibreak around that time. -
DiligentTerrier(and friends)01:13, 4 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Well, with all the evidence presented against you, including the IP being traced back to your hometown, you obviously made a mistake by refusing to tell the truth at first, although you never lied as far as I can see. But that seems to be the only real controversy you've been involved in. The canvassing allegations are a real cheap shot, and since all of the editors you notified had edited that page before, that makes what you did a
limited and neutral notification. Reading all this actually does not hurt my reputation of you at all, and I'm glad you chose to stay on Wikipedia. I would still be very happy to nominate you at RfA; although before your RfA you might want to issue a public statement regarding the vandalism you allegedly made, and describing why the actions you made to notify those editors a while back was not canvassing. You have only good reviews at your editor review, so I think you should go ahead and accept my nomination. -
DiligentTerrier(and friends)01:49, 4 May 2008 (UTC)reply
What I'm saying is that you might want to make a little comment on the vandalism you allegedly made with that IP address (apologizing for it, or whatever), and also explain why what you did was not canvassing - all before your RfA. I'd like to nominate you tonight, if that is OK. -
DiligentTerrier(and friends)01:56, 4 May 2008 (UTC)reply
You know what... if it comes up in the RfA, I'll address it. If it gets
snowballed, it'll be quick and painless. If it lasts like MFC's did, then that's fine too. Go ahead, ye Diligent Terrier. Basketball110My story/Tell me yours02:00, 4 May 2008 (UTC)reply
OK, I'll let it be your choice if you want to address the issue in your acceptance speech. Can I set up a RfA prep page for you? It won't go active until you give an acceptance speech. -
DiligentTerrier(and friends)02:01, 4 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Well it all depends on how much you are willing to spend (obviously!). Are you thinking of getting a DSLR or just a point and shoot? --
Fir000201:27, 4 May 2008 (UTC)reply
I see, well I recommend Canon Cameras so if you're after a P&S I'd say the Canon G9 for quality or if you're after a bit more versatility then get the S5 IS. DSLR wise the 450D is a really nice starter body, or if you have a little more to spend get the 40D. Either way if you get a DSLR buy a body only and get a lens separately - kit lenses are useless and will make you disappointed in your DSLR. A good (cheap) starter lens - the lens I started with - is the Tamron 28-75 f/2.8. Hope that helps a bit and good luck! --
Fir000205:27, 4 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Adoption Offer
Hey thanks for offering to adopt me. As you might have noticed, I got the same offer from
Wisdom89 (
talk·contribs) as well. If the rules permit, I wouldn't mind having 2 adopters. Is there anything you need to know about me & my wikipedia activities? Feel free to drop me a line if you think there's something I ought to know.
Wk1989 (
talk)
02:39, 4 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Request for Rollback
Hiya. I've granted your request. please remember only to use it for vandalism. Any question please feel free to hit me up - cheers and happy editing ! Pedro :
Chat 13:04, 4 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Reply
Oh. I guess I was a little confused. Well, it's Okay, everyone will understand. There aren't any complaints anyway. Heh.--
RyRy5 (talk ♠
wikify)
17:52, 4 May 2008 (UTC)reply
re:Newsletter
Um, OK. When does it go out & where do I write it? —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
RC-0722 (
talk •
contribs)
WBOSITG already has a co-nomination offer from Wizardman. People oppose on really ridiculous things such as the number of nominations, and I don't want this to get out of hand. Would it be ok if you held off and simply "strong supported"? More than two nominations can get kind of bad, but I, along with WBOSITG, appreciate your offer. :) Malinaccier (
talk)21:54, 4 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Hi Diligent, I see you have adopted
User:Florentino floro. I would like to call your attention to a place where I think he could use some guidance. I have tried, in the past, to help teach him better techniques, but I have found him quite stubborn and unwilling to learn. It may well be my approach, so maybe you will have better luck. Basically, he adds news items to wikipedia without much regard for the sense of the article. See
[7] for a recent example. A botanist affiliated with the Missouri Botanical Garden discovered a new species of plant. Wonderful, but it doesn't tell the reader anything about the Botanical Garden. You will see that his edit history is full of this kind of edit, often the same story in multiple pages, as well as adding news items under "External Links" (like
[8]), where, it seems to me, they don't really belong. If you could help him in these areas, I would be very appreciative. thanks.
maxsch (
talk)
17:27, 5 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Hi, Diligent Terrier, by way of rejoinder, and to air my side, I respectfully aver, that - I had discussed, reasoned and debated professionally with submitted evidence and wisdom, on the multiple and continuous deleting of my edits by
maxsch. First, a cursory perusal of his contributions
[9], from 00:45, 29 January 2008, until today, essentially reveals and indubitably shows that this editor singles my edits, and he rarely contributes to Wikipedia, except to delete my edits (unlike me, who as of today, has 3,468 edits). Second, he miserably failed to read and synthesize the intent and spirit or policies of Wikipedia rules; his statutory construction or selective citation of Wiki rules, pervert or prostitute the reliability of Wikipedia. Third, my 3,468 edits and contributions to Wikipedia, had rarely been deleted, much less reverted by any foreign editor. Fourth, in legal parlance (I am a lawyer / judge), this editor's actuations are defined as "badges of fraud", meaning therefore, bad faith, vengeance, vendetta and towards
vandalism, so to speak. I spent long hours, to make Wikipedia a better encyclopedia, and I want to leave footprints here for future generations. This user definitely failed to comprehend the grey area and FINER POINTS of news and encyclopedia. He treats all my edits or almost all of them as news, tabloid, and not pertaining links. Premises considered, it is most respectfully prayed, that as administrator, this editor
maxsch be reprimanded, or his account blocked, or suspended until further notice from you. At the very least, I petition, that he should allow or give chance to other editors and administrators or the CREATORS of the articles who watch those articles, to be the one to revert or delete my edits. This is a requirement of respect, integrity, neutrality and fairness in Wikipedia, among co-equal editors. Sincerely --
Florentino floro (
talk)
08:14, 6 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Further, may I respectfully submit an evidence of his
vandalism or bad faith editing: 17:18, 29 April 2008 Maxschmelling (Talk | contribs) (54,643 bytes) (Undid revision 208986282 by Florentino floro (talk)removed non-notable new budget legislation) (undo) - in
University of the Philippines; this editor deleted my edit on the landmark, since 1901,
Philippine legislation of new UP charter this 2008. He said that it was a budget statute. He misled Wikipedia, since it is not. So, I added it to the upper portion, since he said, it was not proper to insert it in the "centenial" sub-section; but such new law is about UP's 100th anniversary this year. Since 1901, UP's charter was never repealed or revised, until just this year. So I added: "President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo on April 29, 2008 signed into law the University of the Philippines (UP) Charter of 2008, Republic Act 9500, which repealed or totally revised the original 1908 Charter, and declared, inter alia, UP as a National University.[18]"
[10]. And about 90% of my good edits, like yesterday, were deleted by this editor. So, I cry foul and INJUSTICE. Please do use your admin button to put off his account. This submitted evidence is of the highest character to prove that this user violated the MAIN Wiki rules. Regards. - --
Florentino floro (
talk)
08:14, 6 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Thanks for visiting my talk page, and for your time. I understand that you are a real busy administrator, and your diligence transcends TIME. Regards. --
Florentino floro (
talk)
11:34, 8 May 2008 (UTC)reply
You've got a lot of reading to do. I'd start on
User:Florentino floro's talk page, and the archived
[11]. We had several conversations there. There is a bit here
[12], and
[13], and on his previous adopter's talk page
[14],
[15]. Also check out the afds
[16],
[17]. Here are a couple recent diffs of edits I reverted,
[18][19][20], but there are a lot more. Cheers,
maxsch (
talk)
17:19, 7 May 2008 (UTC)reply
I would like to point out that Floro has had a notoriously high noise-to-signal ratio. Not only does he add irrelevant news links as he's relegated himself to lately, but he also justified many of his older edits by claiming, on multiple occasions, that not only can he predict the future but also cause it by casting curses. I'm not normally one to judge an editor based on their character, but I think it's relevant to point out that Floro not only has a
documented psychosis but also a history of doing exactly what he's been doing even to the
Supreme Court of the Philippines. Just doing a search for his name yields a hundred forums which he has joined solely to talk about his supernatural powers and defend his reputation from the people making fun of him on the internet, and checking his history here on Wikipedia shows that he believes the entire Filipino Wikipedia community to be involved in a grand conspiracy against him. I think maxsch is completely justified in keeping a watchful eye on Floro 's edits, and quite frankly, I think more people should be keeping an eye on Floro. --
Migs (
talk)
07:13, 11 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Dear Diligent Terrier. With all due respect, I thought that when my 2 articles were deleted on AFD, and when I was outvoted by Filipino editors, all these debates would end. Contrary to the above-unsupported claims of
Migs, it was my previous adopter,
User:Ianlopez1115 who resigned, who emailed me about the palpable
conspiracy of Filipino editors to muscle me. I disregarded his e-mail, since I believe, as
lawyer/
judge, and Wikipedian editor, that all of us editors are co-equal and below administrators. Grounds: First, it is most unfair for
Migs to accuse me, by personal attack of unsupported
documented psychosis, or mental illness, since the 75 pages decision, when read in full, reasoned that I could not continue as judge due to
dwarf consultation, nothing more, nothing less, and I submit and quote the "ratio decidendi" as proof:
[28]"There is no indication that Judge Floro is anything but an honorable man. And, in fact, in our disposition of the 13 charges against him, we have not found him guilty of gross misconduct or acts or corruption. Judge Floro himself admitted that he believes in “psychic visions,” of foreseeing the future because of his power in “psychic phenomenon.” He believes in “duwendes” and of a covenant with his “dwarf friends Luis, Armand and Angel.” He believes that he can write while on trance and that he had been seen by several people to have been in two places at the same time. He has likened himself to the “angel of death” who can inflict pains on people, especially upon those he perceived as corrupt officials of the RTCs of Malabon. He took to wearing blue robes during court sessions, switching only to black on Fridays. His own witness testified that Judge Floro explained that he wore black from head to foot on Fridays to recharge his psychic powers. Finally, Judge Floro conducted healing sessions in his chambers during his break time. All these things validate the findings of the Supreme Court Clinic about Judge Floro’s uncommon beliefs and that such beliefs have spilled over to action. Lest we be misconstrued, we do not denigrate such belief system. However, such beliefs, especially since Judge Floro acted on them, are so at odds with the critical and impartial thinking required of a judge under our judicial system. Judge Floro’s separation from the service does not carry with it forfeiture of all or part of his accrued benefits nor disqualification from appointment to any other public office including government-owned or controlled corporations. As Judge Floro’s separation from the service cannot be considered a penalty, such separation does not carry with it the forfeiture of all or part of his accrued benefits nor disqualification from appointment to any other public office including government-owned or controlled corporations. In fact, the psychological and psychiatric reports, cannot be used to disqualify him from re-entering government service for positions that do not require him to dispense justice. The reports contain statements/findings in Judge Floro’s favor that the Court cannot overlook in all fairness as they deserve equal consideration. They mention Judge Floro’s assets and strengths and capacity for functionality, with minor modification of work environment. Thus: a. High intellectual assets as a result of “self-discipline and self- organization.” b. “(I)mpressive academic achievements” with “no drastic change in his personality and level of functioning as a lawyer in private practice.” c. “(C)haracter traits of suspiciousness, seclusiveness, pre-occupation with paranormal and psychic phenomena … not detrimental to his role as a lawyer.” d. “Everyday situations can be comprehended and dealt with in moderate proficiency …. His concern for the details that make up a total field represents his attempts at being systematic and cautious.” e. “(E)quipped with analytical power.” Consequently, while Judge Floro may be dysfunctional as a judge because of the sensitive nature of said position, he may still be successful in other areas of endeavor. Consequently, while Judge Floro may be dysfunctional as a judge because of the sensitive nature of said position, he may still be successful in other areas of endeavor." Second, it is most unprofessional and violation of the world's democratic Constitutions, for
Migs to attack my religious beliefs, credo's, psychic or spiritual aspirations and battles for
truth and justice. What is the dire materiality to the issue at bar, of Mig's citing 100 forums where I joined to chat and make friends by sharing my pains, life, spirit guides and quest for justice. I hereby submit evidence, that his accusations do not have any legal basis: I made the legendary 28 pages record in Rush Forum, unduplicated since 1996, with more than 53,013 views and 1,355 replies until today
[29]. If no one here in Wikipedia ever did that record, then, this is the best evidence, that: I am one of the best and honest contributor here in Wikipedia, despite my lack of PC learning. Reason and common sense dictates that if I am suffering from
psychosis as Migs accused me of, who would read my threads in Rush? While I have no hard evidence that
maxsch is a
sockpuppet or
dummy of all those Filipino editors which voted in the deletion of my 2 articles in AFD, suffice it to say that by virtue of a)
Res Ipsa Loquitur, and the evidence of
User:Ianlopez1115, adopter's statement against "the" Filipino editors, this user does nothing except to concentrate daily on my edits. Is there any better evidence to prove my finding of dummy? Third, Migs accuses me of "Floro has had a notoriously high noise-to-signal ratio." This is without any ground and is utter lack of merit. Migs knows me and I do not know him. He could not even submit any hard evidence here, that I discussed without any reason and outside the bounds of Wiki rules. Migs desire that I should bow down in discussions to hypocrisy, lies, and injustice, burying the truth, so to speak. On the other hand, as I said, my very own previous adopter e-mailed me with the expose of all these, and I disregarded or ignored all these Filipino editors who were out to muscle me, since there is a proper forum here, to ban or block me. I believe Wikipedia editors are fair and are themselves governed by rules. I reported this conspiracy by Migs and others to muscle me to
User:FisherQueen, the very first administrator who was kind enough to re-create my
Florentino Floro. As administrator, please do examine my submitted evidence, and let them all submit counter-evidence, point by point, and edit by edit, so that per Wiki due process of law, I will be able to reply, submit a re-joinder, and respond, rather than be unilaterlly accused by most of them of causing their pains, as my own lawyer
Rene Saguisag did suffer. I repeat, it is my faith that it is God that punishes evil, and man suffers death because of sin, and sin come from law, the law of lies, hypocrisy and rage. This is what all of these/their accusations are all about. It is direly easy to bend and cite Wiki rules to muscle an editor. But truth must prevail. In the end ... Sincerely --
Florentino floro (
talk)
08:13, 11 May 2008 (UTC)reply
I think Floro's reply speaks for itself regarding my points, but if you need more,
here is an example of him defending an anti-government article he wrote, claiming that this new article foreshadows the last days of our current president. Search for "Nostradamus" and you'll notice him defending his choices by claiming to have prophetic powers. I am not attacking his beliefs, but he's been using them as the basis for many of his contributions. --
Migs (
talk)
10:33, 11 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Lest I be misconstrued, (by way of rebuttal of
Migs's stance that I am anti-government), let me state that I am apolitical. I never voted since 1970, more or less. I do not believe in politics. I am not anti-
Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo. For even if I saw the vision on January 9, 1999, 6:00 of a) global millennium quakes, disasters until 2010, b) several apparitions of
Mary and c) the physical hurting of VP GMA, no time frame, I predicted the enthronement of GMA on 2004, and I was a great critic of Jun Lozada. I only write what I see. I hated most, as my spiritual belief, the unseating of PGMA, because of greed, lust for power, etc. by same old politicians. I am not against the present Government but I saw the deaths and illnesses of several incumbent and past magistrates, officers, inter alia, due to God's dire punishment. I am a closed Catholic. Yes, I fought hardly against
Nene Pimentel (predicted his pinched nerves surgery) and
Koko Pimentel's loss, via
Psalm 109. Further, today I contributed 3,653 edits
[30] to Wikipedia, and I never used my Gifts of healing and prophecy, bi-location, exorcism, mystical levitation, annihilation, inflicting illnesses, etc., for spiritual cleansing, but not to edit in Wikipedia. This is the first in Wikipedia history that a jobless poor Filipino dwarf judge editor had been accused of "using them as the basis for many of his contributions". I have no prophetic powers but only Gifts. Powers are limited and are developed, while my Gift of the Holy Spirit are infinite, have no bounds, and were/are bestowed upon me versus evil and hypocrisy. I wield these gifts with benevolence and compassion. Take the case of my very own lawyer
Rene Saguisag. I did not create that article, but every midnights since I begged him for mercy at
Malate Mil Nueve Cientos 2004, I never missed a midnight where I did not recite
Psalm 109, for Rene and his family's repentance. I got it on November 8, 2008, after long long hard midnight works. Parenthetically, I prayed not only Fridays but daily for
Juan Miguel Zubiri, since I was humiliated by
Nene Pimentel, set up and made a beggar, when I asked for job help. I never called Mig's office nor asked for help even I could not find a job until now. It is unjust and unfair if I would be charged with using my Gifts in Wikipedia. I wield these, via
Psalm 109 to fight evil, to annihilate those who vilify me. Such is pure self-defense by annihilation up to the 4th generation. Take for example that even if I was hated by many Filipino editors who voted in AFD my 2 articles and some of them are in Vibal and Filnet, I gracefully created
Gaspar Vibal and
WikiPilipinas, even if I had previously seen the vision of horrible
tragedies in Vibal, to come. There is No Exit for Vibal, borrowing
Jean Paul Sartre's book. --
Florentino floro (
talk)
08:26, 12 May 2008 (UTC)reply
As
lawyer/
judge, and editor, I took pains in going over the contributions of
Migs and I found this:
Migs started contributing in Wikipedia on
[31] 25 October 2004 with only 3 edits on 2004; on 2005, from February to December 2005, = 188 edits; on 2006, 12 edits, on 2007, 14 edits, and 2008: # 14:55, 21 February 2008 User:Cma (top) # 14:26, 21 February 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:Beeblbrox
[32]; 10 edits feb, # 3, 11 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:Diligent Terrier (re) # 07:13, 11 May 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:Diligent Terrier (regarding florentino floro...) # 05:56, 17 April 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:Florentino floro. The foregoing evidence conclusively prove, that: from the time of 21 February 2008, when this user knew me and had contributed, in 2008, there was rarely any contribution than, regarding negatives on my works here. Just sayin and submitting the evidence. I ask therefore: with these few contributions, would it be fair and just to accuse me of all these charges which are bereft of any legal or Wiki merit? --
Florentino floro (
talk)
08:26, 12 May 2008 (UTC)reply
NOTED. However, let me state, that I am thankful to
Diligent Terrier, since he adopted me. I was adopted by a "former" Filipino adopter,
User:Ianlopez1115, even if I am a nationalistic
Filipino, and further, despite my express call for adoption by a non-Filipino adopter, for reason of neutrality, objectivity and professionalism, inter alia. Per e-mail permission to me,
User:Ianlopez1115 resigned due to lengthy and painful debates / discussions between me and co-Filipino editors. Thus, after some weeks of my template post of desiring to be adopted,
Diligent Terrier adopted me freely and diligently. Regards. --
Florentino floro (
talk)
07:12, 12 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Petition to Ban/Block
User:Maxschmelling or to Disable his edits on my edits
I am
Florentino Floro /
User:Florentino floro. In my 8 long years fight for truth and justice, I respectfully come to your good office, as adopter and administrator, and aver, that:
1.User:Maxschmelling began to contribute to Wikipedia on: 04:11, 7 July 2007
[33]. With very few contributions, this user first edited my edits on 04:56, 27 September 2007 User talk:Florentino floro; He barely edited my additions, except 2 or 3 articles –
Mt Pangasugan and the latest on October 10, 2007 –
WPA World Nine-ball Championship.
2. Starting from 20:38, 31 January 2008 User talk:Florentino floro (→insertion of news items into encyclopedia pages), this user began to edit, amend, delete and heavily concentrate on my edits. Surprisingly, he does nothing here in Wikipedia but to microscopically dissect my edits, inspect Wiki rules and bend them to suit his tastes of deletion. Badges of fraud, bitterness, vengeance, vendetta, rage, anger, and hypocrisy, inter alia, did color his edits of my edits. Unmindful of the spirit, letter and intent or liberal policy of Wiki rules, he principally uses alibi if NEWS vs encyclopedia, as sole reason why my edits must be deleted. But his hidden agenda was not yet revealed at that time, until he was caught in flagrante delicto on UP article.
3. I was therefore adopted by a Filipino editor
User:Ianlopez1115 (upon suggestion by editor, but when I agreed, I imposed the condition that only foreign users will adopt me for neutrality and objectivity, since I made tons of Filipino editors who voted to delete my 2 articles in AFD. So I was adopted 05:59, 3 March 2008 by User talk:Ianlopez1115/Florentino floro ; 20:44, 8 March 2008 (hist) (diff) User talk:Ianlopez1115 (about your adoption).
4. Starting from 17:43, 16 March 2008 User talk:Ianlopez1115/Florentino floro (→inappropriate news items), this editor began to do nothing in Wikipedia but to daily and timely inspect my edits. Here is the best example of how this user in bad faith fought to delete my landmark drug edit, and he was rebuffed by many foreign editors:
[34] The best evidence of flagrant violation of Wiki rules on editing is utter vandalism when this user deleted my landmark edit of first charter of UP since 1901: 17:18, 29 April 2008 Maxschmelling (Talk | contribs) (54,643 bytes) (Undid revision 208986282 by Florentino floro (talk)removed non-notable new budget legislation) (undo); So, I had to cure his deletion / vandalism here:
[35] It still remains today: President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo on April 29, 2008 signed into law the University of the Philippines (UP) Charter of 2008, Republic Act 9500, which repealed or totally revised the original 1908 Charter, and declared, inter alia, UP as a National University.
5. Contempt and insult upon 2 adopters: On 16:56, 2 May 2008 Diligent Terrier (Talk | contribs) (20,881 bytes) (Adopted), I was adopted by your office, which is not a mere user but an administrator. Since, I am under your parental authority and tutorship, it is plain and palpable contempt or insult to YOUR integrity, capability and professionalism, when this user miserably failed to stop editing and continued to refuse to stop editing my edits. It is sheer lack of respect to an adopter, administrator, and to a co-equal editor, myself, who took pains to have edited as of today, 3,595 edits, in good faith. While, I admit that I am not perfect, and since I had no training in computer or internet unlike today’s Filipino grade and high school students (for I just learned to touch internet when I was Googled world famous or infamous
[36] due to the
dwarves on April 6, 2006 or just 2 years), still, with my experience in these 3,595 edits, I learned a lot, on how many editors edit Wikipedia. Will all due respect, as administrator, and with your diligence in contributions, I bet that you will never find any user in Wikipedia who contributes solely and daily, just to edit the works of another or single editor. And worst, this user, I repeat, devotes all his days and times in editing and deleting my edits, unilaterally even if I already have an adopting parent / administrator. Bypassing / these actuations have no place in Wikipedia.
6. This user’s bad faith editing of all my edits began when many Filipino editors won in the vote to delete my 2 articles here. I lost the vote, but I lost to Filipino editors. Why? The issue there which I squarely raised was self-defense of Truth by an editor, via Wikipedia’s best and only article
Psalm 109 which, I recited midnights, to fight injustice. In the midst of the vote of these Filipino editors in AFD, I lamented on my 8 years longest suspension in world judicial history and am now jobless due to
UST’s
Alfredo Benipayo, a Filipino jurist,
COMELEC Chair, etc. In the middle of our debates, this jurist fell and was hospitalized (like in my more than 800 prophecies).
[37][38] He threatened my adopter and because of this, my adopter resigned
[39] This user directly replied to me that he is not a Filipino editor, when I raised the issue of vendetta-editing, but he refused to state his relationship with Filipino editors and his nationality, although such is not material here. I want to submit this evidence to you, as my adopter and administrator, as best and additional evidence to BAN and BLOCK this user, or at the very least, to DISABLE his editing, or to stop him, while I am under your adoption, to edit any of my edits or articles or additions. I have no permission from my former adoptive parent, and I apologize to him for quoting this letter of resignation here. Ianlopez1115 <ian_lopez_1115@yahoo.com> wrote: “I am now concerned. Here are some of my instructions: Retire before they can have the muscle to ban you, so that you have the time and energy and concentration to do your. Also, I'm now resigning indefinitely as your adopter to prevent collateral damage. But I will be there to protect you in Wikipedia, until we are banned. I also give you the explicit approval to invoke
Psalm 109 and Psalm 73. However, I will not be happy because one of my distant relatives will be involved in your actions (My grandfather's mother is also a Brion from San Pablo City). Although this could be painful, I HAVE LEARNED TO EXPECT AND ACCEPT TRAGEDIES that I shall soon encounter. I appreciate the security and guidance of Luis, Armand & Angel, and I am willing to accept them as a part of my family. I am also considering my indefinite leave of absence here, but I have to defent the meek, the weak, the oppressed users & editors here. I am now saddened that some of our kababayans are trying to treat you like an animal. Now is the time for you to leave Wikipedia, write a note on your userpage that you are leaving Wikipedia for good, invoke Psalm 109 & 73, and "serve" justice to those who have (or had) wronged you. And I do not consider the people whom you called "geniuses", the persons who removed and/or deleted your edits in various articles, as friends. I'm also removing my crab mentality not only for your sake, but for the sake of this nation. Please consider this, since this is a way of saving ourselves. I also hope that we can meet in real life. Please DO NOT send any messages on my talkpage, send it instead via Yahoo! Messenger and/or my email address (the email address that I use to send this message) May God have mercy on this Wiki, and tis nation. Ian Lopez "Ianlopez1115"" <ian_lopez_1115@yahoo.com> Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:41:14 -0700 (PDT) "florentino, jr floro" judgefloro@yahoo.com”
7. I furthermore, submit this bad faith deletion of my edit ,
Orobanchaceae which was reverted by a concerned
[40] user
JoJan. Verily, 90% of my edits were vandalized by this user
User:Maxschmelling. --
Florentino floro (
talk) 09:44, 10 May 2008 (UTC) IN THE LIGHT OF THE FOREGOING, I respectfully petition that
maxsch be BANNED, BLOCKED, or at the very least be permanently ENJOINED from editing any of my addtitions, edits and articles, inter alia. Further, please feel free to edit this long letter, but for the sake of truth, I deem it best to cite it. Sincerely. --
Florentino floro (
talk)
09:27, 10 May 2008 (UTC)reply
This got a lot more heated than I had intended. My only response is that all of my edits of Floro's edits were justified. He makes a lot of edits that are not notable, not relevant, many are trivia and temporarily interesting news items. I am not the only editor who has talked to him on the subject. I have tried in good faith to help instruct him in better editing practices and he responds with off topic rants. He has a non-neutral agenda, involving 1) a vendetta against those people who he feels contributed to him being disbarred as a judge, including
Rene Saguisag,
Regino C. Hermosisima, Jr.,
Miriam Santiago,
Alfredo Benipayo,
Leonardo A. Quisumbing and others, and 2) a vain quest to "make footprints" to his own glory in wikipedia. I readily admit to paying a lot of attention to his edits, but the alternative, to leave them, would be to the detriment of wikipedia.
maxsch (
talk)
23:16, 10 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Dear Diligent Terrier, by way of re-joinder, or rebuttal, since at the core of this discussion, is submission of evidence of violation of Wikipedia rules, I asked, petitioned and demanded that
maxsch should justify why he deleted and edited my above-said additions on
University of the Philippines (on 2008 Charter),
Orobanchaceae, and
[41], but this user instead became evasive by accusing me of editing Wikipedia articles due to my alleged vendetta to
Regino C. Hermosisima, Jr., inter alia. I created this article and a cursory perusal of the same, reveals that it has no negative or controversy part/sub-section. It is so objective, and I could not find that this jurist committed graft, sexual harassment or was even sued in media. His name is white as snow. In
Leonardo Quisumbing, an article which I did not create but contributed to, I never added therein any report which is destructive of this jurist. Due process in Wikipedia, requires as
Daniel Webster defined, "strike me, but hear me first". I want to hear the evidence of
maxsch against me. From accusations of news additions, I was gone wildly charged of these religious and spiritual misgivings. Premises considered, I respectfully reiterate, my demand for specific evidence, for justice sake. - --
Florentino floro (
talk)
08:27, 11 May 2008 (UTC)reply
On the contrary, you are still mum, evasive and miserably failed to submit any valid reason why you made a mistake in editing my 2008 UP landmark Charter
[49], and
Orobanchaceae 08:10, 6 May 2008 JoJan (Talk | contribs) m (8,818 bytes) (Reverted good faith edits by Maxschmelling; Duly referenced new genera have their place in Wikipedia. (TW)). It is utterly disruptive editing. Please take a rest, and vacation, you cannot wisely edit if you are not neutral, biased, prejudiced and are without any agenda here than to edit my words. Please be guided accordingly. --
Florentino floro (
talk)
09:33, 12 May 2008 (UTC)reply
What's up?
Hi Diligent, I realize that in a sense I started this argument, and I apologize for you now being in the middle of it. I imagine you may feel like you stepped right into a pile of non-terrier mess. That said, I am a little worried about the way it has escalated here on your talkpage. It has been several days of this back and forth, and I feel it may be time for you to either step in and say something or to refer this to
WP:ANI.
maxsch (
talk)
03:28, 12 May 2008 (UTC)reply
This is the talk page of my adopting parent. If you and some
Filipino editors terrified and caused the resignation of my former adopting parent
User:Ianlopez1115, it is fair enough, that even at this late time, you confessed your sins to my adopting parent. Well, it is up for my parent to forgive you. But next time, please read and examine the Wiki rules / policies, lest you be blocked or banned. Please, I repeat, learn how to contribute objectively without any vendetta in Wiki to make it a better encyclopedia. --
Florentino floro (
talk)
09:33, 12 May 2008 (UTC)reply
damn those gramer polize! =0 hey, thanks for helping keep the C:ADOPT cat empty, but make sure you don't put too much on your plate! =)
xenocidic (
talk)
20:09, 5 May 2008 (UTC)reply
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Thanks for the kind message. I claimed the Barnstar (my first one!). I will also sign up for your home schooling WikiProject, too.
Ecoleetage (
talk)
19:20, 7 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Yes, it is okay with MoP - you are able to adopt me! And feel free to put the adotped UserBox on my Home Page, as I may be offline for a few days starting tomorrow. Thanks!
Ecoleetage (
talk)
02:37, 8 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Hi there. I would just like to kindly ask you not to remove the <small> tags from
User:Jack/ABs. The reason these are on the page on certain user names is so that the names do not go onto 2 lines for users with a 1024*768 resolution. Thanks. ·Add§hore·Talk/
Cont19:42, 7 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Probably are and i didnt think of that when i first started tagging the names =]. Feel free to help me out with maintaining that page if you want. Putting the new names in the right lines e.t.c. ·Add§hore·Talk/
Cont19:55, 7 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Greetings,Diligent Terrier. RC tells me he's been blocked and suggested I seek a co-adopter. I saw your kind offer, which I will accept. I'm house-broken and promise not to be an intentional burden to you! RC has been--and still is, of course!--a fine help to me, and I am grateful for his guidance. I hope he stays on in the roll of co-adopter. Please check out my bio info and if you have any questions, feel free to ask. I'll do my best to answer you.--
BudgieBirdChan0211 (
talk)
17:53, 8 May 2008 (UTC)reply
I'm not done with the list. I've finished 1/3 (Dallas only, I've still got Ft. Worth and other areas of NTX). When do you plan to come back online? Basketball110My story/Tell me yours23:15, 10 May 2008 (UTC)reply
PS: Sorry if i did anything wrong around your page,
i'm a newbie and it's still a bit confusing for me.
Thanks a lot!
Hello there,
how are you doing?
Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanks a lot for adopting me and for the cookies, too! That was such a warm welcome... I loved them.
I hope i'd start being useful around here soon, although everything seems to be so complicated. I read the help pages, the "How to?" parts, but yet, can't really figure it out.
Well, that's not a good thing. And I think the "Adopt 5 users" barnstar is a terrible idea, it gives a bad idea out. Actually, I'm sorely tempted to get it deleted. It's not about the amount of people you adopt, and having 16 adoptees, or more, is stretching yourself far too thin, if you're doing it right. I have only one adoptee,
RyRy5, but my adoption works differently, is a dedicated program, as shown
here. Cheers.
Steve Crossin(talk)(review)19:02, 11 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Well, you have one very dedicated adoptee. Only two of my adoptees so far have actually asked me a question; the other active one is in quite a controversy now, as you can see a few threads above this. -
DiligentTerrier(and friends)19:06, 11 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Perhaps you should remove the userboxes for the people you haven't been active with. It looks kinda bad, seeing 16 Adopt userboxes. It's a pet hate of mine, to be honest, actually, most of that Award Center irks me.
Steve Crossin(talk)(review)19:09, 11 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Because it's
already been done. I think things like Welcome 1000 users, adopt 5 users, and 10000 edits have to go, but the things like helping get articles to a status, a star for that is fine. Awarding people for editcountitis is bad.
Steve Crossin(talk)(review)19:48, 11 May 2008 (UTC)reply
I think this discussion is being driven away from the point. I think Steve just wanted to suggest you not take in anymore adoptees (as you will be "streched thin"), as he and RyRy5 suggested to me. Basketball110My story/Tell me yours19:53, 11 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Hey! I saw you have offered an adoption to
Malakai01. Well... I did too. So I was wondering if we could co-adopt him. Please tell me what you decide. EliAS19:33, 11 May 2008 (UTC)reply
I'm glad that you're enthusiastic about homeschooling topics. I am as well. I am also a proud American, as your userbox says you are. We probably have a lot in common. Most likely, politically. Hopefully I don't offend you too much with my tone or methods. Sorry if I do. I tend to respond to each and every uncivil remark, so I hope we don't go round and round. Also, I'm a slow mover, tending toward conservative edits (not so bold) - so I like discussion first. Either way, I'm glad contributors like you are here, whether or not I come off that way. Thanks.
Tparameter (
talk)
02:01, 12 May 2008 (UTC)reply
I'm sure that you're very busy, so I don't want this post to be interpreted as impatience. I'm merely letting you know that I'm still awaiting a reply, once you have the time. Thanks.
Unschool (
talk)
18:23, 13 May 2008 (UTC)reply
I certainly hope, now that you've been able to spend more time here, that you will find the time to be civil enough to provide me with a response to my points made at my talk page in response to the thread that you began. Cheers.
Unschool (
talk)
00:09, 15 May 2008 (UTC)reply
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{{adopt me}} please
Hello, my username is kakashisensei76 I am a "new" user. meaning that i have had an account for the longest time but up until recently i was not on wikipedia that often. but now i'm on everyday because of school (yes, i'm a homeschooler) i know alot about pop culture and computers. i am a christian, a magician, an ex-boy scout, i volunteer at a museum in my home town, i help out in my little brother's cub scout pack when ever i can, i have a nephew and a neice and a neice on the way. now that you know quite a bit about me tell me more about yourself (post on my talk page). —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Kakashisensei76 (
talk •
contribs)
Feel free to adopt them, I'm not really phased, but I just thought that I could, well, give you less to deal with, so to speak, and thought the "
adoption program" I have would have helped them a fair bit. Feel free to drop me a message.
Steve Crossin(talk)(review)17:21, 13 May 2008 (UTC)reply
WBOSITG's RfA
Hello Diligent Terrier, I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you for your participation in
my RfA which was passed with a final tally of 114/10/4. I'm both shocked and honoured to gain so much support from users whom I admire and trust, and I hope I can avoid breaking that backing by being the best administrator I possibly can. I will take on board the opposition's comments and I hope to improve over the coming months and years. Once again, thank you! weburiedoursecretsinthegarden20:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Re: Checkuser
The deletions and block were done per private checkuser notification. A checkuser came to me off-wiki, said the individual was a sockpuppet of a blocked user. I therefore blocked the account and deleted the pages they had created per policy. MBisanztalk21:06, 13 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Hello, Vanished user 342562. You have new messages at
Toddst1's talk page. You can
remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Conclusive Evidence of Flagrant Violation of WikiPedia Rules by
User:Maxschmelling
Hi, adopting parent. Now, I am fully armed with heavy evidence against this user. It is time for us to ban or at the very least suspend and disable
User:Maxschmelling contributions lest more insults, contempt to co-equal editors, and utter destruction of this good encyclopedia's article be further enjoined against more damages.
First, let me prove that - this user's contributions
[50] are 95% sole edits of my contributions, and 100% of all of this user's edit by reverting my contributions, are in clear, palpable and flagrant violations of editing, and ethics among or for co-equal editors/users. Please examine each and every contritions of this user from about April until today.
Second, he evades this issue, by making it appear that this user contributes to other articles, but this user does not know how to edit, never reads the links, news, etc., and solely hurriedly edits. So, here this user was caught, was cursed, lambasted and insulted by a veteran editor, and this user complained of personal attacks.
[51] I quote this against this user: " How dare you delete a sentence with a reference? You wrote: (supporting Everton is not a significant element of McCartney's lifestyle) with a reference?...McCartney is also a known supporter of Everton Football Club.[1]Shame on you.--andreasegde (talk)
00:11, 13 May 2008 (UTC)"; "In your words: "description of divorce hearing is not necessary" Which planet are you living on?--andreasegde (talk) 00:17, 13 May 2008 (UTC); You're not English are you? For anybody in the UK, which team you support is almost a religous faith. If you ever get the chance to vist Liverpool or Manchester (or anywhere really) I suggest you stand in the middle of pub on a Saturday night and say that football is not notable...As for your complaints about what I said; I think that they were not insulting enough, because you deleted a referenced sentence. That is tantmount to vandalism, or blind stupidity in Wikipedia. What makes you think references are not notable enough, and that they can be deleted? The arrogance of it...The judge's ruling vindicated McCartney from Mills' lies about him cutting her with a wine glass and letting her crawl to the bathroom. If Mills' was proven to be a liar, I think that is notable enough. Would you think it was not notable if someone said that about you? I think you would..--andreasegde (talk) 12:27, 13 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Third, in my additions to
Orobanchaceae New genus and species
Talk:Orobanchaceae I quote this: "Well, once there is such a genus, it becomes easy, but the question is what to do for the 6 months or so that it will take. I think it shows admirable restraint to not jump the gun and start using the genus name before there is a validly published name. We've had similar situations with Red List entries for "sp. nov. A" and the like (see for example Rhus and search for "Rhus sp. nov. A"), and at least in that case we just put it in the article for the higher level taxon (although it seems a bit odd, I agree, it isn't clear whether there is a better solution). Kingdon (talk) 04:26, 6 May 2008 (UTC)"
Fourth, in the landmark and historical UP Charter of 2008 which I added, this user 2 x deleted this alleging mere budget law, but it is not. So here it stay. Pure vandalisms as andreasegde (talk) simply put it against this user.
University of the Philippines[52].
Fifth, this user attacked my edit here, but in CHORUS, he was denied, contradicted and refuted in detail by several voters who voted against his request for deletion of my edit:
Talk:San Diego State University[53] maxsch argued: "Is this really relevant to the article? I would argue that it isn't, I vote for removal. maxsch (talk) 18:51, 8 May 2008 (UTC)* It's relevant because of the size of the operation ... OhNoitsJamie Talk 19:24, 8 May 2008 (UTC)* In my opinion, its RELEVANT - Streltzer (talk) 01:49, 9 May 2008 (UTC)* I would believe this to be relevant, especially for its considerable size. --Nehrams2020 (talk) 02:00, 9 May 2008 (UTC)* However, as the largest operation of it's kind in San Diego County, it is notable. I included the fact that the community has a mixed reaction to it. Perhaps others can add more as the story unfolds. OhNoitsJamie Talk 03:55, 9 May 2008 (UTC)" --
Florentino floro (
talk) 07:54, 14 May 2008 (UTC)In view of the foregoing, and since this user caused the resignation of my former adopting parent, causing damages, I respectully ask you to watch all his daily edits by deleting and reverting all my edits, as I continuously revert them also. I further ask that you cause a petition to ban him be filed with the adminstrators. Regards. --
Florentino floro (
talk)
07:14, 14 May 2008 (UTC)reply
I think the central point is getting lost here. I edit a lot of
User:Florentino floro's contributions. That has never been disputed. But I don't do it out of vindictiveness, I do it because he has a documented habit of adding
biased,
trivial,
irrelevant, and
non-notable content. I do it to make wikipedia articles more readable and more sensible. I do it because if no one did it, wikipedia would be worse. It's a thankless job. On several instances I have talked to him (in good faith) about specific wikipedia policies and tried to show him how his edits could be improved. I have even encouraged him when he added useful content. But it is clear that he isn't interested in listening to me. We would all be better off if someone (how about his adopter?) would step in and teach him better editing practices. Then I could leave him to edit unsupervised and he could quit attacking and threatening me.
maxsch (
talk)
22:23, 14 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Can I take it to mean you've noticed the other three types ;). There is blatant NPOV violation, like these,
[54] (note: if you look at the news story, you will see that he significantly exaggerated the seriousness of the accident, and look at the talkpage note accompanying it
[55]),
[56], various posts here
[57],
[58] (the whole article was later merged with this one
[59] because the whole premise of it was in violation of NPOV) not to mention the deleted article
[60] which was originally a list of bad things happening to people that Floro had allegedly predicted or caused, later filled out with bad things happening to other people so that it would be less biased.
And then there is the less blatant method of seeking out of unflattering news about people he feels have wronged him, like these:
[61],
[62],
[63] goes with this
[64] for context, and these for emphasis
[65],
[66]. It’s edits like this one
[67] that led me to figure out that he was making biased edits. I can look for some more if you like.
maxsch (
talk)
23:41, 14 May 2008 (UTC)reply
If
maxsch correctly and not uncivilly edited my contributions, and if only the above-submitted examples or specifics of my contributions are violative of Wiki rules, why is this user, the only one editing, reverting and continuously deleting my edits? Daily, this user concentrates on all my daily contributions. Even a non-lawyer/laymam would easily find and conclude that there is a hidden agenda (badges of fraud) of this user to be a virtual
stalker,
dummy, alter or the like, to destroy my contributions. He is so uncivil to his fellow editors. Vide the above harsh words thrown at this user by a veteran editor (shame on you; planet are you). Finally, this user miserably failed to contradict, rebut and traverse my above-submitted evidence versus his stay here. On the contrary, this user would again resurrect by detailing or enumerating my past edits, failing to
assume good faith. Premises considered,
maxsch is hereby found guilty beyond reasonable doubt of utter violation of Wikipedia rules, and is hereby recommended to be banned or be placed under indefinite suspension. --
Florentino floro (
talk)
09:11, 15 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Floro, please similarly assume good faith regarding Maxschmelling. The fact that he scrutinizes your edits does not put him in violation of Wikipedia's rules.
TheCoffee (
talk)
13:52, 15 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Thanks for your support at my recent Request for adminship. Perhaps we will have a chance to collaborate in the future. I hope you find I live up to your expectations. Best,
Risker (
talk)
13:42, 16 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Hello? I thought you might be interested in my WP progress, given that you wanted to adopt me. Any reason why I am being ignored?
Ecoleetage (
talk)
23:05, 25 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Made a new header, since the other one is a bit high up. It's up to you... just wanted to know if there was a function for it. Although, I do feel the urge to vandalize... /me puts a {{db-nonsense}} tag on the page (...with<nowiki></nowiki>, of course). ;) ·
AndonicOEngage.22:14, 16 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Vanished user 342562/Archive 6, just a note of appreciation for your recent support of my request for adminship, which ended successfully with 112 supports, 2 opposes, and 1 neutral. If there's something I've realized during my RFA process this last week, it's that adminship is primarily about trust. I will strive to honour that trust in my future interactions with the community. Many thanks!
Gatoclass (
talk)
06:26, 17 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Uncivil behaviour
I would take far less offense to someone cursing at me and calling me all kinds of names, than I do at having someone accuse me of behaviour and refusing to address my response. I don't know that I am correct or that you are not correct. But you did level an accusation at me, and I proceeded to explain my perspective and you refused to acknowledge my points, saying that you don't have the time. So you do have the time to throw mud on other people, but you don't have the time to engage in a civil discussion of why you may have been mistaken in your mudslinging? How can I see this as anything other than arrogance and contempt for others? A civil editor, in my judgement, is willing to discuss such things, and is willing to consider the possibility that he might have been mistaken. And I acknowledge that I may be in error here—but as of this moment I believe that you have erred. Since you are the one impugning reputations here, the burden should be on you to discuss the matter. If not, what kind of world would we have, where reputations can be maligned at the arbitrary whim of one person? Do you not understand the value of civil discourse, or just not share it?
Unschool (
talk)
21:03, 17 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Thank you for your last reply on my userpage. When you get back from your Wikibreak, tend to the stuff that's important to you, and just reply to my clarification when you're more or less caught up (though really, when is any of us on this project ever able to feel "caught up"?). Look forward to your next comments.
Unschool (
talk)
18:30, 19 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Still awaiting your response. (I really would like to see this matter clarified and settled, so that we can move on. It would be easier if responses did not take three to seven days to arrive.) Cheers.
Unschool (
talk)
00:07, 2 June 2008 (UTC)reply
Re:Wikiproject Home Schooling
Hello. Yes I like to not get the Newspaper. Thanks.
Collaboration of the Month nominations are currently open for WikiProject Homeschooling's Collaboration of the month. So far there have been two nominations. You can nominate and vote at
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Homeschooling project
Thanks for the invitation to this project, but I must decline. It's not a subject that interests me particularly. I've had
Unschooling on my watchlist for a long time, ever since a long-ago edit when I encountered
Category:Ageism and removed Unschooling and other apparently irrelevant articles from the category. I'll continue my peripatetic efforts to improve the article (and monitor for vandalism), but don't look for me to contribute on other Homeschooling topics. Good luck with your efforts! --
Orlady (
talk)
00:10, 18 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Florentino Floro
Hi diligent, sorry to keep hounding you about this, but your adoptee is getting really out of hand with his edits and his personal attacks. Have you decided to keep yourself out of it? If so, I wonder if you would mind me posting something at
WP:ANI? I feel like I have given you all the information and evidence you could possibly need and I really want to get to a point where this
[69] kind of thing doesn't happen anymore.
maxsch (
talk)
05:25, 18 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Done I need both parties to fill in the blanks at this page:
User:Diligent Terrier/Florentino floro and Maxschmelling. It's not that I'm lazy; I just want to give both parties a chance to give their side of the story. I will mediate the case by asking questions, and pass on my opinion to another forum (like formal mediation, the Arbitration Committee, or the Administrators' noticeboard) or I may simply file a request for comment. -
DiligentTerrier(and friends)18:42, 18 May 2008 (UTC)reply
You have got to be kidding me! I have responded with details and plenty of examples every time you asked a question up to now, and you are asking me to start over. I have stayed civil in response to repeated personal attacks. I understand that you want to stay neutral, but your neutrality is really starting to look like inaction. You adopted Floro nearly three weeks ago and you have not given him one single piece of advice, when he very clearly could use some. I feel like I am wasting my time. You have shown no real intention of becoming involved, and now this: "I just want to give both parties a chance to give their side of the story." That chance has been given and both sides have responded in excessive detail. If you have a specific question that has not yet been answered, I am happy to try to answer it, but it doesn't make sense to me to repeat all the same accusations.
maxsch (
talk)
23:28, 18 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Thanks for your kindness. Wikipedia is a place for all fellow editors and even administrators, especially, adopting parents, to help make Wikipedia better. If an editor has a grudge, complaint or accusation against another co-equal editor, there are, for sure, rules and policies that Wiki had in the past and present provided. But rules and policies cannot in any manner change any hidden agenda, anger, bitterness and hypocrisy on the part of editors. Human nature dictates and such is the truth of matter in this broken world of materialism, where rage rules.
maxsch had been repeatedly contradicted by many editors on his edits of my contributions. I suggested and advised that he should carefully read the rules and policies of Wikipedia without any subjectivity. Cold neutrality so to speak, of an impartial jurist. I just wonder why this user had concentrated on my edits, daily and reverted or deleted almost all my edits, without even giving any chance to other editors to comment, to ask for their sides, and more importantly, with due respect, he must have had at the very least, asked the opinions of creators of the articles I contributed to. You will notice, that when he reverts and deletes my edits, and I revert or re-add, he is IGNORED by any and all editors, and in several time, he was objected to and lambasted. Remember the "shame on you" and "What planet are you in?" hurled to his face by a no nonsense editor. My former parent resigned because of this
crab mentality. This user needs a lot of rest and mental therapy, and this is not a personal attack since this is a Wiki truth. Finally, this editor uses his account here, only to edit my works, wherein, none of the editors ever complained of, and this user never created any article nor contributed, by adding new edits. This is the essence of pure
vandalism in the highest sense of the word. To be sure, if an editor will not vandalize, but will edit, by deleting not in a pattern or scheme, but daily and continuously, and focusing on my edits, what is this, is this not sheer vandalism? I am, I am, and I am, precisely, under adoption. Ergo, due respect, must be accorded by this fellow user not only to you, as adopting parent, but, imagine, to a former administrator, who was and is well versed in rules. Due process and courtesy plus kindness require that this user must respect you, as adopting parent, and give you all the time and chances to correct my edit/s, lest rage and vendetta of dark human nature reign supreme in this Encyclopedia. Reason dictates, that if my edit is bad or wrong, then other editors, would, for sure, revert, delete or amend my edit. Such is coherence and neutrality among co-equal users. Just my comment, dear parent. I know you are tired of this user, but let it go. It will pass. Let administrators take care of this user in a fair and honest discussion or debate where both of us are squarely given chances to air sides and submit evidence. A final word. Lest I be misconstrued, I, as judge / lawyer, give you my parent, an unsolicited homily: as an authority for having joined in 140 forums, a user or member, like this editor, who continuously perturbs not only editors, former administrator, and now, adopting parent, inter alia, the sole remedy to this rage and mental shock, is IGNORE. Regards. --
Florentino floro (
talk)
09:19, 19 May 2008 (UTC)reply
RfA thanks!
RfA: Many thanks
Many thanks for your participation in my recent
request for adminship. I am impressed by the amount of thought that goes into people's contribution to the RfA process, and humbled that so many have chosen to trust me with this new responsibility. I step into this new role cautiously, but will do my very best to live up to your kind words and expectations, and to further the project of the encyclopedia. Again, thank you. --
jbmurray (
talk •
contribs)
05:48, 18 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Thank you for supporting my RfA, which unfortunately didn't succeed. The majority of the opposes stated that I needed more experience in the main namespace and Wikipedia namespace and talk space, so that is what I will do. I have made a list and I hope I will be able to get through it. I will go for another RfA in about three month's time and I hope you will be able to support me then as well. If you have any other comments for me or wish to be notified when I go for another RfA, please leave them on my talk page. If you wish to nominate me for my next RfA, please wait until it has been about three months. I will not be checking back to this page so if you would like to comment or reply please use my talk page. Thanks again for participating in my RfA! ·Add§hore·Talk/
Cont06:57, 20 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Hey Diligent Terrier. I would like to thank you for your support in my
RfA and the confidence expressed thereby. I appreciate your trust. :) Best wishes, —
αἰτίας•discussion•18:17, 24 May 2008 (UTC)reply
And thanks from me too. I appreciate the trust placed in me by you and others, and will do my best to ensure it isn't misplaced! --
Slp1 (
talk)
00:00, 25 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Hello. Since you are part of
WP:LAA, you are recieving this message. I gave
WP:LAA a new page design, formatting, and more. The project now has it's own
request page. Feel free to request there. I also updated our
to-do list. I hope you continue to be an active contributer to our project. Please add your opinion on our new revamp of our project at our
discussion page. Thank you, from the founder,
RyRy5 (talk)
03:23, 25 May 2008 (UTC)reply
RE: Alfonso Soriano revert
Uh oh, looks like you reverted a revert I made back to the vandal edit I reverted in the first place. I reverted your edit and your warning. I understand if it was a mistake. Thanks =) --
♣ẼгíćЏ89♣ (
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20:27, 25 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Hi. Have you ever wondered how your userpages look in non-monobook skins (which, conversely to what one might think are in common use, especially by long-standing contributors)? I happen to use the modern skin (a popular alternative) and I must say that the tricks with floating images completely obscure the action buttons on the userpage (edit, watch, etc.) and generally look messy (on both pages) as you can
see foryourself. Do you think you could do something about it? Thanks,
Миша1309:08, 26 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Thank you for you work as a peer review volunteer. Since March, there has been a concerted effort to make sure all peer review requests get some response. Requests that have gone three days or longer without a substantial response are listed at
Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog. I have three requests to help this continue.
1) If you are asked to do a peer review, please ask the person who made the request to also do a review, preferably of a request that has not yet had feedback. This is fairly simple, but helps. For example when I review requests on the backlog list, I close with Hope this helps. If my comments are useful, please consider peer reviewing an article, especially one at
Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog (which is how I found this article). Yours, ...
2) While there are several people who help with the backlog, lately I have been doing up to 3 or 4 peer reviews a day and can not keep this up much longer. We need help. Since there are now well over 100 names on the
PR volunteers page, if each volunteer reviewed just one PR request without a response from the list each month, it would easily take care of the "no response" backlog. To help spread out the load, I suggest those willing pick a day of the month and do a review that day (for example, my first edit was on the 8th, so I could pick the 8th). Please pick a peer review request with no responses yet, if possible off the backlog list. If you want, leave a note on my talk page as to which day you picked and I will remind you each month.
3) I have made some proposals to add some limits to peer review requests at
Wikipedia_talk:Peer_review#Proposed_limits. The idea is to prevent any one user from overly burdening the process. These seem fairly reasonable (one PR request per editor per day, only four total PR requests per editor at a time, PR requests with cleanup banners can be delisted (like GAN quick fail), and wait two weeks to relist a PR request after it is archived), but have gotten no feedback in one week. If you have any thoughts on these, please weigh in.
It's not live yet. It's usually frowned upon to transclude an RfA which already has supports. Thanks, though! Check back tomorrow. Enigmamessage23:22, 27 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Thanks for the kind words
Hey, pal, thanks for the kind words. Yeah, I've been a bit busy in the DYK pages -- I hope I don't wear out my welcome there! Your Talk Page seems to be the Times Square of Wikipedia -- it is easy to get lost here, so don't worry about overlooking my trivial messages. Hey, I appreciate your kindness and consideration, so please accept this token of my gratitude:
Hello, Vanished user 342562. You have new messages at
Zginder's talk page. You can
remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Is that what it is? I've been hearing more and more about it; I should probably bid fair Twinkle adieu and download it. Would you recommend it over VandalProof? FusionMix20:24, 28 May 2008 (UTC)reply
I've never used VandalProof (mainly because
User:Betacommand, the person who approves editors for it has been blocked - and myself and many others have had our names in for approval for a long time now...) but what I can tell you is that Huggle allows you to revert and warn a user automatically in one click, and it will use the appropriate warning level based upon the warning the vandal has been given before. -
DiligentTerrier(and friends)20:29, 28 May 2008 (UTC)reply
I recall asking approval for it a while ago, I think sometime in November, but I failed their '250 mainspace edits'. I was answered only hours after I posted by
User:Snowolf. Is Betacommand the only user with the authority to approve wannabe VPers? FusionMix12:31, 29 May 2008 (UTC)reply
I have been asked to leave you a message with regards to this situation by one of my co-workers. The IP you listed as a potential sock puppet is actually shared by several users. Many of these people do in fact make constructive edits on Wikipedia. Others may be acting disruptively. That aside though the IP, in and of its self is not a sock puppet of a single user, vandal or otherwise. Co-workers who have found they can not log into their own accounts are slightly disgruntled over this matter as most of them are not, and have nothing to do with, Jimboss69. Please take this factor into consideration when addressing the "sock puppetry" issue.
Simonm223 (
talk)
14:25, 29 May 2008 (UTC)reply
I would be gratefull if you could create newsletter template or a notice pointing members to that page. It is up to you. --
Megapen (
talk)
15:51, 30 May 2008 (UTC)reply
I'm a bit busy now starting WikiProject United States Government, but for right now, I would appreciate it if you could create a notice to send out to the members. I don't think there's enough news right now for a newsletter. -
DiligentTerrier(and friends)16:01, 30 May 2008 (UTC)reply
McCain's VP
Since I left the United States and came back to Europe, I'm not following US politics as I did when I was there. My hopes are on Huckabee, but I don't know if McCain could choose him. I think that he needs a conservative anyway, better if Southern and with governor's experience. I don't think Romney, Rice, Powell and Lieberman would be good choices. I would choose between Huckabee, but what about Tim Pawlenty, Mark Sanford, Bill Owens and Charlie Christ? I really don't know... what are your ideas instead? --
Checco (
talk)
16:36, 30 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Wasn't also Huckabee among the invited people? Why not Jindal and Crist? We can continue the discussion here... --
Checco (
talk)
17:16, 30 May 2008 (UTC)reply
In
Bobby Jindal's page it is said that Huckabee was invited but did not go to Arizona. Jindal is ok for me, but he is probably too young... Huckabee's the best. --
Checco (
talk)
17:24, 30 May 2008 (UTC)reply
(edit conflict) Checco: no, it was a feature (maybe about a month ago) just on Sanford. Enigmaman: why do you think Huckabee would be 'disastrous' choice? I'm actually suprised you'd comment on politics when you're up at
WP:RfA. -
DiligentTerrier(and friends)17:41, 30 May 2008 (UTC)reply
My RfA isn't going to pass anyway. Also, I'm not going to change who I am because of an RfA. I am who I am. Huckabee would be a poor choice because he does nothing to address the key weakness of McCain, and in fact makes it worse. Huckabee is not a conservative. He's an evangelist, and thus is against gay marriage and abortion, but he's not a conservative at all. Look at his foreign policy. Picking Huckabee would do even more to alienate conservatives, and McCain needs conservatives to come out in force if he wants to win. Enigmamessage17:49, 30 May 2008 (UTC)reply
(ec)I'm telling you this based on his record. You can look at his article. He's a social conservative, but not a fiscal conservative. His foreign policy leaves a lot to be desired. I can find some comments from conservatives if you'd like.
[71][72][73][74]Enigmamessage17:58, 30 May 2008 (UTC)reply
McCain-Huckabee, a libertarian- and fiscal-conservative from the West along with a social-conservative with Southern and evangelical roots: isn't it a great GOP ticket? --
Checco (
talk)
18:01, 30 May 2008 (UTC)reply
McCain is definitely a fiscal conservative (he has one of the best Senate track records in fighting for taxpayers), but the whole reason he's had such trouble getting the nomination (he should've been there in 2000) is because many say he's not a true conservative. He has a history of being a maverick, and "crossing party lines." Conservative message boards call him a RINO (Republican in Name Only). You may be underestimating the amount of people Huckabee would alienate. Enigmamessage18:26, 30 May 2008 (UTC)reply
I'm not really sure. Many were advocating Fred Thompson, but he never seemed that interested, even when he was in the race. I don't think Mitt Romney would be a wise choice. IMO, it has to be a solid all-around conservative with a Southern background. Enigmamessage18:57, 30 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Let's just say I'm very thankful that I don't have to make what will be a very controversial choice. There are a bunch of possibilities, and there are flaws and issues with each one. And... I think that fills my political talk quota for the week. Catch you next week, perhaps! Enigmamessage19:08, 30 May 2008 (UTC)reply
I don't know much about Sanford, but on Lieberman I think that he would be a remarkable choice for Sectretary of Defense not as VP: you need to put a social-conservative and a Republican there... --
Checco (
talk)
07:18, 31 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Just as a spectator looking in, I would say a McCain-Romney ticket would be best (just because an Obama-Richardson ticket could beat them dead). Basketball110My story/Tell me yours02:59, 9 June 2008 (UTC)reply
I just wanted to tell you that the
June newsletter for WP:NBA is finished. Preferably, it would delivered on June 1. However, seeing that you're on a wikibreak, maybe not *sigh* Anyway, I hope you can get to it sometime. All that needs to be done is to send it to everyone on
this list.
Have you subscribed? Hi. There's only a few subscribers at the moment, but if the list got a little bigger, a bot could definatey brought in. I'm just recording issue 2, so check back very soon.
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