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Re: unknown bands... see, when I think of unknown, I think of indie - I know/know of a lot indie bands who aren't all that famous but still have a fan following. I've gotten an indie zine started and written actual articles about the bands which I attempted to add. They may be relatively obscure in the grand scheme of things, but are locally (or otherwise marginally) recognized. I do believe John has a point about the fact that what is unknown to some is obvious fact to others. However, after seeing an article about a director I've heard of land up in the deletion bin because he didn't have enough "notability", I don't feel quite so bad about my band pages getting deleted... you know? ;) Also, out of curiousity, how did you find my band contributions in the first place? Did you search for new additions, or what?
Re: mod - I actually meant moderator, as in site administrator. :) Moderate contributor works well, too, though. -- RockerGrrrl 02:39, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
The quote is found in Freedom at Midnight,a book that deals with the Indian independance movement's last moments etc. I dont remember the page etc as of now. Besides ive read it in a newpaper article as well. Manu
I know, but I reported him to the AIV. Either way, the user has to be blocked. He is a big time vandal. Cheers, Je tL ov er 21:37, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
I have also seen Guipuscoa more often than any of the others. (In Spanish it's Guipúzcoa, and in Basque Gipuzkoa.) But, I checked Britannica, Columbia and Merriam-Webster, and "Guipúzcoa" (with the acute accent) seems to see the preferred form (see Talk:Guipúzcoa). On the other hand, place naming is a sensitive political issue in Spain. You are likely getting dragged into edition wars if you change the Basque name. I prefer less sensitive issues ;) Jmgonzalez 16:26, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
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This was something to be discussed in the Basque WikiProject, though I ahve been absent from Wikipedia lately and I don't know what happened in the end. One strong position in this issue was that of English philologist, living in the Basque Country, Alan King, who suggested that Guipuscoa really has no such strong tradition in English language as to support it being kept that way and that instead the official name should be used primarily. He went even further and sugegsted that Biscay should be found by Bizkaia, because Biscay is really amost only used for the sea of that name and not so commonly for the province.
It's a similar case with Gotemburg/Göteborg... where the western Latinized name is in the end no more common than the original Swedish name. Is it Zaragoza or Saragossa in English? Obviously this may be subject to discussion and it's difficult to find the correct midpoint. My personal opinion is that unless it's a very common term in English, such as capital or other worldwide famed cities, or there's no standard native spelling, the official name should be used primarily. And that's the case for Gipuzkoa, a place that is not worldwide famed at all.
In any case, I have nothing to do with any recent changes in that page. Yet I support the form Gipuzkoa, which is the official name, unless you can demonstrate that the Latinized form Guipuscoa is such a widely known term in English that doing otherwise would cause confussion to most users. Remember that nowadays English is not anymore just an ethnic language but the primary international language and hence these issues must have a cosmopolitan and not an Anglo-centric approach.
-- Sugaar 04:15, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
The pronunciation of Gipuzkoa (Basque spelling) and Guipúzcoa (Spanish and traditional spelling) is almost the same. The name Gìpuzkoa is the only official since 1991 and the Basque institutions use it both writing in Basque and in Spanish. Guipuscoa was used in English but I think it is out of use now. The issue is political rather than linguistic. I would recommend to use Guipúzcoa in Spanish even if it is not official, and also Guipuscoa in English has it has some tradition, at least until there is some definition within the province itself (Maybe there is a political turnover and then Guipúzcoa comes back, as even if it is not official it is still widely used).
-- alfanje 12:36, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Well, I added that a year ago. Haha. Back then the Legal Issues section was a total mess, I was thinking of cleaning it up but I didn't what should be excised and not. So I left it up to other people, I was expecting the tag to be removed sooner or later by someone, not left up an entire year. -- Saint-Paddy 19:42, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
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For quite some time now, there has been a concerted effort on the part of certain individuals to monopolize editing rights to tens of articles pertaining to Afghanistan. These individuals have continuously shown their leanings towards a subversive political philosophy which I will not go into. My point is that these articles have become nothing more than a propaganda tool through which these people spread their misinformation and slander those who they view as their opponents.
All attempts that have been made to contribute to these articles have been reverted and labeled as vandalism. All sources that I and others have put forth to justify our edits have been rejected by the individuals in question, without reasonable grounds. Numerous attempts have been made to settle these disputes, but all have been ignored.
What, if anything, can be done about this? I am still quite new to the Wikipedia community, but have made every attempt to make meaningful contributions to no avail. The behavior I've described seems like it has absolutely no place here and has greatly diminished this project in my eyes. If you have a moment to spare, I would greatly appreciate any advice you would be able to offer.
Thank you. -- Khampalak 02:00, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi Bejnar. For reasons I outlined at talk:Xelha, I think it is better to separate out the material on the Maya archaeological site from the modern water theme park. Accordingly I've set up a separate article, Xel-Há Water Park, for the latter. I also moved Xel-Ha to Xelha as I find the archaeological site referred to without the hyphen more frequently in the literature.
As I also note on the talk page, the water park is a private commercial enterprise, and is not really a 'national park' in the formal sense. On the otherwise fine map Image:Coba-Xelha-Cozumel-Cancan-Map.jpg that I believe you contributed, it is marked as "Xel Ha Lagoon National Park", which does not seem to be correct- do you think you'd be able to change this description on a new version of that map? Regards, -- cjllw ʘ TALK 12:42, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
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Yes, Anoshirawan has been a nuisance on the Afghan Civil War and Democratic Republic of Afghanistan articles. His repeated insertion of the Greater Iran template on articles about the history of modern Afghanistan is clearly unjustified. He has provided no explanation for this, bar saying that "Afghanistan was created in the 19th century by the British", without giving any source for this unprecedented claim. I've reported him for violation of WP:3RR at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR. Hopefully that will get him blocked for a short time, but clearly that's not enough. Making a Request For Comment seems to be the correct procedure, though I don't have much experience with these things... If you take it to RFC, you can count on my support. Regards. Raoulduke47 18:57, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Thank you both for helping in resolving this matter. I have not handled the situation as well as I should. Anyhow, your efforts are greatly appreciated. I'm hoping that we can bring some much needed integrity to these articles. -- Khampalak 19:39, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
I can provide a better justification for using the History of Greater Iran template. However, I'll go by the concesus. Where is this concensus? -- Behnam 21:25, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure how easily this problem is going to go away. Just about every article I've been trying to edit keeps getting reverted. The reverts are removing not only cited, verifiable information and corrections, but also restoring weakly sourced POV material aimed at slandering the subject(s) of the articles. This is a huge problem that's affecting most of the Afghanistan articles. I'm not sure how much longer I can continue, but it seems that these two individuals have devoted all of their time and effort to their misinformation campaign.
For an example, I'd direct you to the Mohammad Zahir Shah article.
-- Khampalak 17:12, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
It's really no use. This RFC process is not going anywhere. Beh-nam is brutalizing the Zahir Shah article, seemingly out of spite. I give up. This isn't worth the effort anymore. Take care and thanks for helping fight the good fight. -- Khampalak 05:01, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
I would suggest to help out with inline referencing in the article and also getting rid of the many red links. STTW (talk) 10:37, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
This is relevant to the history of Iran. The very name Atabegs of Azerbaijan comes from the name of the Iranian region of Azerbaijan. How could it not be relevant when the very name of the dynasty is Iranian. Hajji Piruz 16:42, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
This is where I get confused. I dont think you know which Azerbaijan we are talking about here. The majority of the territory of the Atabegs was in Iran:
He had possessed Azerbaijan (Iran), Arran, Shirvan, Djibal, Hamedan, Gilan, Mazandaran, Isfahan and Rei
The underlined ones are the territories that were in Iran. So how is the History of Azerbaijan more relevant than the History of Iran template? You are contradicting yourself. You are saying that the most relevant template should be used but at the same time your saying that the history of Iran template is not relevant... Hajji Piruz 19:57, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi,
About the move, thanks for your note. In fact, I tried to move it, but for some reason it did not work. I appreciate your comment.
However, I am stunned to hear that Sefid River is the correct version! It is definitely not. A simple comparison, like Google search for the former and the same for the latter shows this, even though the correct version of the latter should be like this to include all spellings. Another rule of thumb is that the -rud suffix is not used in its meaning in Persian, just like the city names: Behshahr is not transcribed as Beh city!!! Or like the mountain names: Alam Kuh is going to be rediculeous as Alam mountain or mount Alam!!!!
S I A M A X 19:06, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
That is an article written by Pakistanis and ofcoarse will be pro-Zahir Shah. While a newspaper written by Canada will be neutral. With all due respect, anyone who lived in Afghanistan during those times are aware of Zahir Shah's oppressions of non-Pashtuns. The source you provided doesn't count since it is pro-Zahir Shah, please provide something neutral. -- Behnam 18:37, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
How's this for objective and neutral:
Boggles the mind how this sort of thing has gone unchecked for so long. -- Khampalak 20:19, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
Good work, you might consider to nominate it for DYK. STTW (talk) 17:46, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the citation regarding Hiram I and freemasonry. Theelf29 13:28, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for letting me. Appreciate it. -- Behnam 16:09, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
I guess I never saw it. Sometimes people create the same article repeatedly with slightly different names every time, and only one gets tagged for speedy deletion. If our search function was a little bit better... Natalie 23:59, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I honestly expected wikipedia to have full detailed articles on Geology by state e.g Geology of California or Geology of Utah. I'm not even from the States but I had fully expected a detailed article on each state. Some of the American geological articles are very poor or non existent see Basic geologic features of each state. PLease could your project aim to start these articles and develop them. All the best and thanks ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Talk"? 13:05, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
I guess -obviously geological landforms exist regardless of frontiers but I was also thinking in terms of soil composition , sediments etc. Surely there must be different forms in different parts. The article Geology of Minnesota is very good -perhaps because the creator is a geologist himself from the state. I guess it would be redundant for some state articles to have an article like this but I am certain more can be done. Why is the main Geology of the United States of America article quite basic? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Talk"? 15:49, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Persian Cromwell is more reliable because it is written during that time and written by someone who was close with him. -- Behnam 19:50, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
All the article was was a list of the top 10. There was no context, no response, so there wasn't anything TO merge. Unless, you wanted to clog the Rolling Stone page up with crufty lists. As well, Rolling Stone has done dozens of greatest lists over the years, so I fail to see why it was particularily notable. -- Scorpion 0422 21:04, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Well sorry for that allegation, but this was done before where a user who has a conflict with another makes an puppet account which he sets up as the user he has the conflict with. I was very upset when that happened last time because he was a great editor, it happened to user: Tajik. So I was a little paranoid of this happening again. Sorry for that. -- Behnam 22:07, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Just a comment, you've changed his name from Mirwais to Mir Wais, despite other encyclopedia uses Mir Wais, the correct way to spell is Mirwais, as one word. See Mirwais Ahmadzai. Mirwais is a common name especially among Pashtuns and mostly all spell it with one word, regardless what the name actually stands for. thanks -- Dilbar Jan 14:06, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
and where did you move it?? I couldn´t find it. But i left a text that mayne can bring some lghts on the issue.
Qurdratulla (mohammed bakir) was the name Mirwais´s father..or what do you think?? Turalai Khilji?? -- Aspandyar Agha 17:53, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, thanks, we'll see how it goes. Corvus cornix 23:43, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Hello. I reverted your move of Lucky Dube to Lucky Philip Dube per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people). He is globally known by his first and surnames only, thus can see no good reason why we would want to have his middle name included in the title. If I've missed the reasoning somewhere, do let me know. Thanks. Rockpocke t 23:10, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi. About a year ago, you moved the article Michael James Genovese to Michael James Genovese, Sr., and put in a dab page with space for his supposed son Michael James Genovese, Jr.. But MJG's only son is named Michael A. Genovese; see details at Talk page. I have proposed a move back to the original title; if you have any comments, please add them to the discussion. Thanks, Hqb 16:40, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
I didn t deleted any source nor any text phrases —Preceding
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Click on the "Editing restrictions" on the article tag or "Final resolution" on the talk tag and you go to Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents/Sri_Lanka-LTTE_blocks_-_reviewed. It's covered as it's in a category named there. As long as your edits are sourced and NPOV, it should not be a problem. — Rlevse • Talk • 20:53, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Bejnar!
Please refrain from reverting Anoshirawan's latest revert of Dari (Afghanistan). Instead you might rather wait for what comes out of this. Just keep cool, and thanks for your positive reaction on my page :-) -- Kavaiyan <°)))o>< 05:31, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I'm informing you that the person who is vandalising Template:History of Afghanistan is the banned user:Tajik, using anon IPs from Germany. Any IP starting with 8xxxxx and vandalising Afghanistan related articles is him. See here for solid evidence [4], where he signed his name by mistake. Take the time to make a full report to administrators and they will block his IPs and also ask for page protection ( Wikipedia:Requests for page protection) to every article in which he is vandalising. He is also the same person as User:Anoshirawan and User:Aspandyar Agha. He's the only person that has been saying that there was no Afghanistan before 1919 since October 2006.-- GingizKhan 09:28, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the correction. I had left the dates as I found them. Geo When has a list of references dating up to 2001 which seem to be the source for their "followed by E Pleisto" dating. Adjust the dating as you see fit. I mainly have to do with earlier Blancan stuff ("middle Plio" of older authors like Wetmore etc) right now. It is good that you told me before I delied on the disputed info. Dysmorodrepanis 01:06, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
According to the Census Bureau, Magdalena is a village. You'll have to prove that the Census is wrong. Nyttend 22:28, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you very much for making the Ohio State Route 571 page easier for the reader to understand! I'm not the best at wording the sentences right, but I will get better in time. I have good ideas, but sometimes it takes someone else to make them great. I definitely wouldn't mind re-creating the State Route 201 and 202 pages. I am very familiar with them both, especially 202. I would like to get all of the Western Ohio highways up to par in the near future. You will never get in an edit war with me, I appreciate the help very much! Thank you again! Mirage45331 12:46, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
There are plenty of instances in the scientific literature, I'll dig some examples out when I get the chance. Verisimilus T 14:29, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I've nominated Pancha Carrasco, an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Wikipedia:Did you know. You can see the hook for the article at Template talk:Did you know#Articles created on November 17, where you can improve it if you see fit. — Komusou talk @ 15:23, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
-- Zzyzx11 (Talk) 06:07, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi Bejnar - I've added my two cents to the talk page of Dari (Persian), though whether it'll do any good or not is another matter. I'd suggest contacting one of the wikipedians in Wikipedia:Third opinion - then know a bit more about resolving disputes like this than I do. Oh and yes, thanks, the exhibition went well! Not as many sales as I hoped, but good reviewsd and lots of good comments about my work. Grutness... wha? 04:09, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Just because Afghan is more commonly used, does not mean it is more correct. Have you ever heard of misnomers? Besides, it is sourced by Princeton's WordNet, so all three denonyms should be mentioned since all three are used. For instance, Afghani is used exclusively by our neighboring countries of Iran, Pakistan, Tajikistan, and other languages in the region... Arabs call us Afghani. Keep that in mind please. -- Behnam ( talk) 04:24, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
This is an academic encyclepedia and we provide what is true and right. If English speakers use Afghan for non pashtuns then they are making a mistake and it should be corrected.Anoshirawan 04:50, 26 November 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anoshirawan ( talk • contribs)
Anoshirawan, I think we should include all three. That is the best solution I think. -- Behnam ( talk) 05:04, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Actually, I was not the one who categorized this article as a stub; I merely moved the stub notice further down without giving it much thought. Looking at the article a bit closer, I agree that it may or may not be categorized as a stub depending on the criteria one is using. I have no strong opinion about this particular article (in my view, it is in the gray area between stub and start), so if you feel that the stub notice should be removed, go right ahead; I sure ain't gonna be complaining about that :) You may also want to review the WP:STUB guideline, which is vague but occasionally helpful. Best,— Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • ( yo?); 18:24, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Regarding this and other similar recent edits of yours, please note that romanization of Russian names should be done in accordance with WP:RUS. Also, titles should not contain patronymics unless a name is ambiguous. Please move the article accordingly (to Ivan Gubkin) and revert your changes. Sincerely,— Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • ( yo?); 21:05, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Hello. Sorry for replying a bit late. I made my comments in the Discussion of Dari (Afghanistan). I have suggested not to use Parsi-Dari for Gabri/Yazdi/Dari of Zoroastrians or for the Parsi of India, please refer to my comments for further explanations/sources. Thank you. Ariana 11:46, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Since you started a discussion here back in April, could you take some time add comments to a merger proposal at Talk:Cordillera Oriental#Merger proposal? Thanks. wbfergus Talk 14:27, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Cordillera Oriental-- Zer0~Gravity (Roger - Out) 16:35, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Do you understand no one will ever even see these terms were you've put them? Do you understand you're removing sourced content based on your own idea that it's not "preferred"? You do. But you are an Afghan nationalist and according to you people any denonym other than Afghan is against "Afghan unity" and is a threat to Pashtun domination of the country. So you have to hide these referenced terms. Wikipedia is not here to promote Afghan unity or Afghan nationalism and is not here to take sides. So please stop this. --The preceding comment was added by IP editor 65.93.216.199, removed by C.Fred, and restored by IP editor 2007 65.93.211.252 all on 9 December 2007.
There is a dispute as for whether Afghanistan and Balochistan are fair game to be considered part of the Indosphere. A user:Atari400 insists that it is not, making the absurd claim that it has not been, or only minorly been, influenced by (the rest of) South Asia. Considering that you RfC'd Template:Asian capitals I am requesting that that you put in your input on the matter. Thank you, Thegreyanomaly ( talk) 03:22, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
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Hi, Bejnar. It does no good to add a category twice, with two different sort keys, as you did at Fred Grossinger. Only the last one is used. Earlier ones are ignored.
Furthermore, what shows up in the category is still the article's name. Even if it did work, what you would have ended up with is a strange, unexplained "Fred Grossinger" in the listings under H.
Since Fred Holliday was already a redirect, I have created a new redirect from Fred Holliday (actor) and categorized that. Check out how that works, in case you want to use it in the future. (you won't have to create a new redirect if what you want to categorize already redirects to the article rather than being a disambiguation page. Gene Nygaard ( talk) 17:02, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
I fixed it. Thanks for the comment.-- Jerrch 16:06, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
You should not use his book as a reference. He is the head the Afghan Mellat party so he is not reliable.
Iranica, Britannica, Encyclopedia of Islam... those are reliable sources.
Please revert your edits, supporting Ahadi, the head of the Afghan nationalist article... is really starting to show that you support Afghan nationalism yourself. If as you claim you do not support Afghan nationalism, then remove Ahadi as a reference. Padmanii ( talk) 18:15, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Again, you show that you either are an Afghan nationalist or you support Afghan nationalism. I have provided a reference for Farhad Darya being half Tajik. He keeps removing it. Do you understand that that is vandalism? There is little doubt in my mind now that you are indeed an Afghan nationalist. By the way, that user is the sockpuppet of user: Khampalak. You probably knew that though but chose to help out your fellow Afghan nationalists instead. Padmanii ( talk) 18:34, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Please revert all your edits on the Afghan article. Your edits make no sense. First of all that is a disambiguation page and you do not need to mention the transliterations for Pashtun. They can find those on the Pashtun people article. Secondly you are using weasel words.
Really poor edits. I would RV them but I don't have enough edits just yet, so you should listen to this advice and RV it yourself back to the previous version. Padmanii ( talk) 23:56, 29 December 2007 (UTC)