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This page violates the Neutral Point of View. It needs a considerable rewrite. -- Robert Merkel
It is also skewed towards bicycle and motorcycles. Environmentalists rarely have anything against horses. --Anders Törlind
Yes, this page was written with a strong agenda, and one with which I do not agree, having performed thousands of hours of trail planning, design, construction, and maintenance. Actually, horses are almost as negatively-impacting on trails as are motorcycles. Even mountain bikes negatively impact trails relevant to foot hiking. Ideally, all these four trail types should be kept strictly separate, certainly at least because all three of the other uses make life 'miserable' for foot-hikers. -- John Knouse
Pulled this from the main article and putting it here for now. Nothing bad about it, just my concern is that once we start naming specific trails, it will never end. (e.g. Appalachian trail, Continental Divide Trail, etc...) Open to discussion, but putting it here for now so as not to "prime the pump" for more... Montanabw (talk) 23:59, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
The Bicentennial National Trail in Australia is the longest marked multi-use trail in the world, stretching 5,330 kilometres from Cooktown, Queensland, through New South Wales to Healesville, Victoria. This trail runs the length of the rugged Great Dividing Range through national parks, private property and alongside of wilderness areas. One of the objectives was to develop a trail that linked up the brumby tracks, [1] mustering and stock routes along the Great Dividing Range, thus providing an opportunity to legally ride the routes of stockmen and drovers who once travelled these areas with pack horses. This Trail provides access to some of the wildest, most remote country in the world. The Bicentennial National Trail is suitable for self-reliant horse riders, fit walkers and mountain bike riders. [2]
Am I right in thinking that trail riding for mountain bikers normally refers to relatively short trails, whereas for equestrians it can include multi-day long distance trails and extended excursion. Also how long is the average mountain bike trail? My initial impression is that is there some difference in the usage of the term trail riding? And do mountain bikers follow long distance paths, backpack/camp? Rwood128 ( talk) 01:17, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
I now realize that the above is excessively naive (it's late in the evening), as I have met met mountain bikers on GRs in France, and mountain trails in Switzerland, the Highlands and Lake District, etc! But still, is the term also used for bike rides on short trails? Rwood128 ( talk) 01:42, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. I'm beginning to wonder if trail riding would not be better dealt with in the Mountain biking and Bridle path pages, and that a section on Trail centres should be started on the MB page, rather than as a new article. What do you think? Rwood128 ( talk) 11:59, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
Is there some overlap between Cycle touring and trail riding? Also do you have to be on a mountain bike to trail ride? Rwood128 ( talk) 21:40, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
Many thanks.
Am I right in thinking that there are different kinds of mountain bike trail riding? That is:
Rwood128 ( talk) 12:00, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
This image from Cycle touring is of interest here. They don't look like mountain bikes to me but aren't they also trail riding?. See also Dervla Murphy and Mixed Terrain Cycle-Touring. Rwood128 ( talk) 12:19, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
I agree that the trail in Patagonia looks like an unpaved road, but the surface is very similar to that of shown on other images.
Re (2), while the South Downs Way is often fairly level, there is also some serious climbing, and the path is rough and stony in places. [1] It is also of course a National Trail. The Ohio and Erie Canal tow path is obviously level, but the surface isn't suitable for regular bikes. But we need mountain bikers from different parts of the world to clarify this matter. Rwood128 ( talk) 12:37, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
According to the lede this article can include motorised trail riding. I don't follow your comment re the structure of the article. At the moment it is basically divided into two main sections that deal with horses and bikes separately, and the 'Rail trail' section, which involves multi-use. There is some overlap, however, because of bridleways (in Britain) and towpaths. Rwood128 ( talk) 14:22, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
This article duplicates an existing article: Trail. The existing article is much better written, more comprehensive. I propose deleting this article, or merging the content where appropriate. Fluous ( talk) 20:44, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
Per the comments above, I took a whack at the article and tossed quite a bit of material about the individual trails. I have no intent of "dissing" anyone's trail, but I think the specifics belong elsewhere. Anyone wanting to keep material not mentioned in any other article can just copy from the old version prior to my edit today ( Montanabw (talk)) and put it in whatever article they want. I didn't do much with sourcing, this was more of a copyedit. Feel free to continue to make other improvements! Montanabw (talk) 22:30, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
This looks good -- I suspect that I may be guilty of adding off-topic material. Rwood128 ( talk) 23:31, 22 December 2014 (UTC)