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Now, I haven't heard anything about this new movie, and while that doesn't mean it isn't happening, the way the "movie rumor" section of the article just sounds to me like someone who started the rumor, and is trying to cover it up. I have therefore removed it from the article.
Gherking02:42, 21 July 2007 (UTC)reply
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I agree with Wikipedia. The plot is to long. It gives away most of the story, but I guess that is ok. But there is to many minor things that are in the Plot, and they shouldn't be there. I think that it should be edited, to make it shorter, and more to the major events. What do you think?
DarkJak495 (
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16:16, 29 January 2011 (UTC)reply
The plot is definitely too long. There is nothing wrong with giving away the story; this is an encyclopedia, so it's not our problem if we have "spoilers". The best thing is to remove everything but the main points, trimming the plot to approximately 400-500 words, but keeping all of the important information. Feel free to begin shortening it yourself, and I will try to help where I can. Welcome to Wikipedia, and keep up the great work! PrincessofLlyrroyal court17:03, 29 January 2011 (UTC)reply
The plot for this article is exactly 623 words long. I have spent a good amount of time editing it, and I think that the plot is going to stay like that for a while. Does anyone agree or disagree. If you think there is anything else to fix, mention it here. Cheeers!
DarkJak495 (
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13:09, 30 January 2011 (UTC)reply
I would suggest also expanding to other topics that are useful to readers, such as publication history, themes, and critical reception (there should be some somewhere). For some help on figuring out what is appropriate see
WP:MOS (novels). If you need help, feel free to contact me here,
Sadads (
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13:16, 30 January 2011 (UTC)reply
Well, I took your advice PrincessofLlyr. I shortened the explanations at the beginning of the plot. The plot is now 563 words. And Sadads, I will take your advice and expand the article.
DarkJak495 (
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12:48, 31 January 2011 (UTC)reply
First, I think we should find some reviews of the book by some more reputable or editorially controlled organizations, such as
http://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/childrens-books/john-flanagan/the-rangers-apprentice/ or
http://www.kidsreads.com/reviews/0142406635.asp . Then using
WP:Summary style summarize the various discussions which the review bring up in a Critical Reception section, and if they talk about themes or style of the book, in Themes or Style sections. Make sure you add footnotes using the syntax <ref> REFERENCE TEXT</ref> . I would suggest enabling
WP:RefTools and using that to insert the footnotes. From there, we may also want to figure out the publication information, which Amazon or Barnes and Noble websites may be able to help with. If you have more questions, feel free to leave a comment here, and PrincessofLlyr or I will respond,
Sadads (
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13:52, 31 January 2011 (UTC)reply
Haha, it means
GA review, check out the link and look at the requirements. GA = Good article, its a type of review of articles we use here on Wikipedia to check for quality and completeness. Don't worry their are alot of confusing acronyms that are very Wikipedian, you will figure them out, just stick around :)
Sadads (
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20:54, 31 January 2011 (UTC)reply
Ah sorry about that, I've gotten used to throwing around acronyms thinking everyone knows them! :) I've shortened the plot down to a better size though it might need a copyedit for grammar and flow. I usually do that after all the information is added in. At this stage, try and find some interviews on the web that has information on how Flanagan got the original idea for the novel and any problems he may have had while writing it. If you have a public library with literary databases, it would be helpful to search up some reviews, I've already found a handful and will add them in soon.
Derild4921☼21:06, 31 January 2011 (UTC)reply
Sorry, but I've removed the information about the Camp from this page since it is concerns the series as a whole, not just the first book. In an individual book article, only information about the one book should be added.
Derild4921☼21:09, 31 January 2011 (UTC)reply
A friend gave it to me, but if you look at www.awardsruinsofgorlan.com or something like that, you can verify it. Then add it to the reference list and/or external links. By the way, how do you like my new signiture? DarkJak495 :
Chat 21:59, 31 January 2011 (UTC)reply
Hmm...I'll need to do some searching for those awards. I must say, I've seen that style signature used by quite some other users. Did you take it from someone or figure it out yourself?
Derild4921☼22:22, 31 January 2011 (UTC)reply
I like the signature, but for future reference, try to keep things related more directly to users on their respective talkpage and content discussion on the respective content page.
Otherwise, I am glad you guys are having some success finding sources, and look forward to the future improvement. If anything is behind a paywall, I will probably have access to it, so feel free to contact me, and we can see if I can find it and use it :)
Sadads (
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01:52, 1 February 2011 (UTC)reply
I think I have near hit my Wikipedia quota for the last week, in doing contributions and whatnot, I need to work on some real life stuff. I will be back on sometime later this weekend, maybe I will take a look then. For right now, I will let PrincessofLyr and Derild take care of things,
Sadads (
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17:29, 2 February 2011 (UTC)reply
Things that need to be done
There are still many ways to make this article better. If you are looking for something to do, you should look at the list below and see if you can do one of the things.
punctuation check
grammar and spelling check
adding more references
adding more external links
checking to see the information in the article is reliable
As it is I think this article has too many sections. You could merge the "Awards" section with "Critical reception", and merge "Audiobook adaptation" with the rather paltry (at the moment!) "Movie" section. Even if this article greatly expands, I would still opt for using subsections, rather than allowing each topic to have its own full section. Oh and PS: I copy edited the whole thing, as per the request made of the Guild of Copy Editors... Let me know if you have any major qualms and happy editing!
Bobnorwal (
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20:10, 5 February 2011 (UTC)reply