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For anyone who even knows what language this fiendishly-named object was named in, please tell the English-speaking world how in hell to pronounce it! @_@ -
Kasreyn
Well as of January 13th, 2006 the IPA is there. A layman's english pronounciation is impossible since it contains 4 sounds that do not appear in english (or more precisely aren't distinguished in english). A *rough* approximation would be 'sh-ch-eh-rr-bee-ets'. I don't see how this could be included and have the article still look professional.
-ATB
ps: sz is a softer 'sh', cz a softer 'ch', the r is rolled like in Spanish, and the c is pronounced like the 'ts' in 'tsunami'.
Just to clear it up for those who can't read IPA, the best English approximation of the Polish pronunciation would be SHCHERR-byets; with shch as in fresh cheese, a rolled R, and ts as in pizza. It's two syllables, not three, with the stress on the first. An English word that sounds closest to Szczerbiec is probably sherbets. —
Kpalion(talk)06:41, 27 July 2012 (UTC)reply
I disagree with the way some of the relevant articles are titled, but have given up on trying to fix them. I just try to be consistent within a given article; other articles may use other naming conventions and we've got redirects and piped links to handle that. There are several reasons why I think Latin names are better:
Many monarchs of Poland also reigned over other peoples; and discussing their national or ethnic identities is a moot point (e.g., why "Bolesław the Brave" and not "Boleslav the Brave", if his mother was Czech and he ruled Bohemia for some time?) Using their Polish names may be seen as pushing the Polish point of view.
As Latin was the chancery language of Poland for ages, it is the Latin regnal names, especially for Medieval monarchs, that are actually attested in historical sources.
Latin names are easier to read for English speakers than their Polish counterparts.
Quicumque hec nomina Dei I[ehova] secum tuleri[t] nullum pericul[um] ei omnino nocebit
Whoever these names of God Jehova carries with him, no danger will harm him.
Sadowski
Quicumque hec nomina Dei secum tuleri[t] nullum pericul[um] ei omnino nocebit C[o]n[cito]
Whoever these names of God carries with him, no danger will harm him. I summon...
Budzioch & Tomal
Crossguard reverse
CONCITOMON··EEVE SEDALAI·EBREbEL
Con[or] cit[are] [n]omin[a] Eeve Sedelai Ebrebel
I dare speak the names: Eeve (Ehyeh [asher] Ehyeh vah... Ehyeh,
I Am that I Am and... I Am,
Exodus 3:14), Sedelai (Shadi Elohi,
El Shaddai, God Almighty), Ebrehel (Ab + Rabi El, Father + Omniscient God).
Sadowski
Kone zitu omon Eeve Sedalai Ebrebel
Fervent faith incite (the names): Eeve (I Am that I Am and... I Am), Sedalai (God Almighty), Ebrehel (Father, Omniscient God).
Sadowski
Concit[o] Omon Eeve Sedalai [D]ebrehel
I summon: Omon (Faithful), Eeve (Love), Sedalai (Lamb of God), Debrehel (Word of God).
Budzioch & Tomal
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