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This article needs more balanced coverage, and I'm soliciting comments before making changes.
What's omitted is the circumstances behind many of the "firsts". For example, while it's true that the Soviet Union launched the first satellite, it's also true the United States *could* have launched a satellite two years earlier, and in fact had the satellite in storage. ("Wernher von Braun: Crusader for Space") Another example is that while it's true the Voskhod 1 had the first three person crew, it's also true that to do so, the crew had to wear no spacesuits! The "Buran" section makes no mention that the Soviet Shuttle was so widely recognized to be a tardy copy of the American shuttle, there were jokes and cartoons.
What's omitted in the article is a sense of perspective. Reading the "Notable firsts" section, a reader might get the impression that the Soviet Union was ahead in all areas, whereas many of the scientifically significant missions have been American, almost right from the start.
Some mention of the context of these "firsts" needs to be added. After all, Wikipedia is not a "Guinness Book of World Records". Or at least, I remember reading that somewhere in the guidelines.
Leptus Froggi ( talk) 15:28, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
This article has many problems. Firstly, only 21 citations, far below the Pokemon Quotient. This, in an article about the first satellite, dog, man, and woman in space!!! Secondly, it seems hell-bent on denying the program's achievements. It has sections called "Incidents, failures, and setbacks" and "Canceled interplanetary projects". There is no corresponding section in the NASA article, despite the disasters of the Space Shuttle program. The article is laden with words like "failure", "setback", "disaster", "problem", "canceled", "abandoned", and "catastrophe", as well as "propaganda", "secret", "clandestine", and "cover up". The article foregrounds the involvement of scientists from Nazi Germany, even though they played a minimal part in the program, obviously in an attempt to minimise the Soviet success. You would never know that the International Space Station is dependent on Soyuz rockets. A lazy and biased article.-- Jack Upland ( talk) 11:54, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi I fully agree with the criticisms of the current version of the text. As for the "Saturn" program it is possible that the reference is the program Tsiolkovsky (what is strange is the year 2012). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.180.61.60 ( talk) 21:06, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
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I'm currently working on replacing unnecessarily negative language from this page, but I (obviously) don't feel comfortable removing an entire section. It seems to reveal a large amount of bias that this page has a section of this sort while that of NASA does not. Its more complete to have a section of this sort, but should it stay if there is none on the NASA page?-- Jemhop ( talk) 15:59, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
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Over the last couple of months I have been working on updates to the ‘Origins’ section, including new articles about Gas Dynamics Laboratory, Reactive Scientific Research Institute and German influence on the Soviet space program and a major update to the Group for the Study of Reactive Motion. I’m planning to now work on the rest of the article, however I think the article is now a lot more balanced with sufficient references to remove the NPOV and additional citation templates. Comments / thoughts? Ilenart626 ( talk) 00:34, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
The statement "However, after 1947 the Soviets made very little use of German specialists and their influence on the future Soviet rocket program was marginal." in this Soviet space program#German influence section is taken from the lead of German influence on the Soviet space program with four references (which do not support this statement). Following the dispute already mentioned above a survey Talk:German influence on the Soviet space program#Survey was opened by the moderator. Please participate in the survey and vote for your preferred option! SchmiAlf ( talk) 15:46, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
Under the heading "Origins: German influence", one finds this claim: "On 22 October 1946, 302 of the most capable German rocket scientists and engineers...were deported to the Soviet Union as part of Operation Osoaviakhim..." (emphasis added). Nothing is provided to explain what "the most capable" means in this context. The Russians did not get the top German rocket engineers; men like Wernher von Braun, Hermann Oberth, Walter Dornberger, Ludwig Roth and Arthur Rudolph, who were actual department heads and project leaders for the German rocket program, and who went to the US as part of Operation Paperclip. So what does "most capable" mean? Bricology ( talk) 10:59, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
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