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That is why Soviet Russia redirected not to Soviet Union nor to Russian Republic part of the Soviet Union, but rather to Soviet Russia (disambiguation)--
Keerlls
ton19:41, 21 November 2007 (UTC)reply
Russian Reversal
Is the series of jokes that start with "In Soviet Russia", that are an internet Memem, signficant to this disambiguation? - I believe so. I think some link to
russian reversal should be made.--
Keerlls
ton02:20, 15 November 2007 (UTC)reply
It's been edited yet again. I think rather than an edit war Russian Reversal should be noted. I think the reason is that Russian Reversal is a series of jokes starting with "In Soviet Russia" - Russian Reversal can alternatively be called "In Soviet Russia" jokes.--
Keerlls
ton15:00, 20 November 2007 (UTC)reply
Yes, I think the specific thing you are referring to (have you read that page?) "disambiguations are paths leading to the different article pages that could use essentially the same term as their title" In soviet russia redirects to Yakov Smirnoff - My proposition is the following, are you amenable to it?: *"
In Soviet Russia" jokes commonly known as Russian Reversal. --
Keerlls
ton15:51, 21 November 2007 (UTC)reply
"The New Encyclopaedia Britannica" 1974 - saying "Vilna (Wilno), which Soviet Russia had conceded to Lithuania under the treaty of July 12, was seized by a division of the Polish Army on October 9"
"Encyclopedia of the United Nations and International Agreements" which talks about the "IRAN-SOVIET RUSSIA TREATY" saying "On 26 February 1921, Persia (as Iran was called at [...] Soviet Russia renounced all the concessions that had been granted to"
The term gets 1,380,000 hits on google search. One is "Post-Soviet Russia" - perhaps some hits are not properly for the term.--
Keerlls
ton21:36, 21 November 2007 (UTC)reply
merriam webster dictionary,
[1]: Soviet Russia entry - Russia, USSR; Russia Entry notes that Soviet Russia is a common way to refer to RSFSR--
Keerlls
ton00:04, 22 November 2007 (UTC)reply
Is a term used by "Russophobe" and similar to refer to the current government of Russia. Get's only 57 hits on Google, and 645 if allowed site repetition, does not seem very notable.--
Keerlls
ton03:35, 22 November 2007 (UTC)reply
I know. I just wanted to note it's existence here at least. A commonly used term is Post-Soviet Russia. Which refers to something else altogether.--
Keerlls
ton12:43, 1 December 2007 (UTC)reply
Post-Soviet is a legitimate and generic term for the Russian Federation after 1991. It doesn't need its own article, but can be used in appropriate contexts. "Neo-Soviet" could be a description for the current state of Putin's regime, but it's the first time i am hearing it. --
Amir E. Aharoni13:57, 1 December 2007 (UTC)reply
In cases when there is main meaning of the term which is a synonym to a more common term, it is redirected to the main meaning. There is a very common case in wikipedia and there is even a special template
Template:Redirect to use. Please see how this template is used at the top of
Russian SFSR article (as well as in many other places). `'
Míkka>t00:58, 23 November 2007 (UTC)reply
I would support Kirlston here. The term Soviet Russia was quite widely used to refer to the
USSR. I am unaware of it being used to refer to the present Russian Federation. Could you cite some sources?
Bathrobe (
talk)
02:25, 29 November 2007 (UTC)reply
It does not redirect to "present Russian federation", it redirects to "soviet russin federation". And USSR was called simply Russia. In this case the priority is the correct usage, rather than ignorant one.
Morning Glory does not redirect to
Nocturnal penile tumescence, although I may bet my own one that it is the first meaning to pop in the brain of the majority of male anglophone wikipedians. `'
Míkka>t03:57, 29 November 2007 (UTC)reply
It should redirect to where people expect to go. "Ignorant" though you may consider it, it does have some currency, and there are likely to be people looking for Soviet Union who type in "Soviet Russia". They should not be forcibly redirected to Russian Federation. And since Soviet Russia is not a formal, official term, there is no reason to talk about "correct usage".
Since there is a Soviet Russia disambiguation page, why not redirect there so people can choose exactly what term they want? That's what a disambiguation page is for.
Encyclopedia cannot be dictated by ignorance. And despite being informal term we can and do speak of its correct usage. `'
Míkka>t22:26, 2 December 2007 (UTC)reply
Please provide citations that prove this informal usage is "correct usage".