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![]() | On 10 March 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Russkaia mysl. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
http://www.rm-daily.com Kaihsu ( talk) 07:31, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Russia which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 23:17, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. Editors in support of the proposal argued that the proposed title is the WP:COMMONNAME based on ngrams; this argument was rejected by editors who opposed the move, who argued that the place was too obscure to determine the COMMONNAME, and that in the absence of a good reason to move the article it should not be moved per WP:TITLECHANGES. In such circumstances, where the arguments for each side are equally strong, we consider the number of editors supporting each position to determine which one has consensus, giving us the result of not moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal ( talk) 16:15, 19 March 2023 (UTC) Expanded rationale following request on talk page 02:32, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
Russkaya mysl → Russkaia mysl – WP:COMMONNAME, as evidenced by Google Books Ngram search. [1]
The proposed spelling (with any capitalization) has been the clear majority for nearly all of the last century, and comprising over 3/4 of total usage for the last 25 years. [2]
Capitalization in sentence case (with either spelling) has been the majority usage for the last 45 years. [3]
Sentence case is also supported by the guidelines which recommend using the native, Russian convention. (For the Russian usage, compare ru:Русская мысль (журнал))
The titles of books (usually meaning the title of the literary work contained in the book) are capitalized by the same convention that governs other literary and artistic works such as plays, films, paintings etc.
Capitalization in foreign-language titles varies, even over time within the same language; generally, retain the style of the original for modern works, and follow the usage in current English-language reliable sources for historical works.
In MoS's own wording, "recent", "current", "modern", and "contemporary" in reference to sources and usage should usually be interpreted as referring to reliable material published within the last forty years or so. In the consideration of name changes of persons and organizations, focus on sources from the last few years. For broader English-language usage matters, about forty years is typical. While style guides with fewer than five years in print have not been in publication long enough to have had as much real-world impact as those from around 2000–2015 (on which MoS is primarily based), the corpora used for Google ngrams are updated through 2019, and we frequently rely on what they indicate from the late 20th century and onward.)
(This RM was previously part of a batch RM that closed with no consensus, at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Russia#Requested move 13 January 2023.)
— Michael Z. 16:03, 10 March 2023 (UTC)