Q: That picture of Rebel Wilson was taken years ago. She doesn't look anything like that now. Can it be replaced, now, please?
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Um at least remove the repeat of the picture taken at the same event? That has to be trolling... on no other pages have I seen similar pictures used from the same event for a person's biography...
72.136.95.67 (
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03:05, 5 June 2022 (UTC)reply
72.136.95.67: I did consider that when I found this thing last night, though I decided against it because I expect that we'll find a suitable picture for the header soon, and then the other picture can stay.
Iseult Δx parlez moi06:06, 5 June 2022 (UTC)reply
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Could you change the picture to something more recent. As she has changed a lot lately it would be better to have an image that reflects the real her. (And she requested it on social)
Smaanx (
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17:57, 4 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a
reliable source if appropriate. Please provide an image with an acceptable license.
ScottishFinnishRadish (
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18:03, 4 June 2022 (UTC)reply
I understand that Rebel Wilson, who now looks completely different to the current photo in this article, would like a better photograph to replace the existing one, and that this is getting some press attention.
If she, or her representatives, or someone else who has personally taken a recent photograph of her, would like to upload a new photo to
Wikimedia Commons, granting the right for the picture to be licensed under
Wikimedia Commons' licensing rules, it can be used in this article immediately.
Without the proper copyright license, however, newer images cannot be used as we already have a license-compliant image, and only an entity with the legal capacity to sub-license it, such as the copyright owner, can grant that license. —
The Anome (
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13:41, 5 June 2022 (UTC)reply
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Go out with your camera, take a new picture of her, upload it here. Do not try to upload other people's pictures of her, they will be deleted because copyright. If someone who has contact with Rebel Wilson happens to read this, she can take a previously-unpublished-anywhere selfie and upload it herself.
Gråbergs Gråa Sång (
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22:24, 5 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Or she could just take a selfie and post it to her social media saying "this is a public domain image of me". But there is no need for her to be personally involved: like most celebrities, she probably gets vast numbers of nutters trying to contact her, and celebrities put up walls against such things. But maybe you could contact her Australian agent (
https://creativerep.com.au/artists/rebel-wilson/) or these people (
https://www.tavistockwood.com/clients/rebel-wilson/) and make them aware of how this situation could be resolved. Both have public email addresses and phone numbers. Then their people can talk to her people, etc. She also probably has PR people to handle this sort of thing, who are probably empowered to do the same this directly; same deal applies with this, but I don't have contact details for them. There's no shortage of good photos of her already; it just needs approval from someone with the authority to do so, probably via
WP:OTRS. —
The Anome (
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14:52, 6 June 2022 (UTC)reply
I'm not sure Commons would accept "her social media saying "this is a public domain image of me"" but they might, I don't know the specific rules on that. I think it would be easier if the selfie/social media clearly stated "This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license", but I'm not sure which if any social media you can do that on. Apparently nobody at the Daily Mail mentioned Commons to her, but otoh that's not their job.
Gråbergs Gråa Sång (
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15:53, 6 June 2022 (UTC)reply
I would see "this is a public domain image of me" from a person who just took that image themselves as a pretty clear dedication to the public domain. Perhaps "this is a public domain image of me, taken by me" might be even better. But as I said above, the most practical way to do this, without having to bother her personally, is to contact her agents via either of the public contact points I gave above. —
The Anome (
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21:13, 6 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Fair enough, but IMO the most practical way to do this from the WP/Commons POV, is article-subject-uploads-previously-unpublished-selfie-on-Commons-themselves. Minimum bureaucracy for everybody. Photographer-uploads-previously-unpublished-photo-on-Commons-themselves works just as well.
Gråbergs Gråa Sång (
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11:41, 7 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Or maybe you could contact her Australian agent (
https://creativerep.com.au/artists/rebel-wilson/) or these people (
https://www.tavistockwood.com/clients/rebel-wilson/) and make them aware of how this situation could be resolved. Both have public email addresses and phone numbers. Then their people can talk to her people, etc. She also likely has PR people to handle this sort of thing, who would be able to do it directly; same deal applies with this, but I don't have contact details for them. There's no shortage of good photos of her already; it just needs approval from someone with the authority to do so, probably via
WP:OTRS. —
The Anome (
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21:09, 6 June 2022 (UTC)reply
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Change Rebel wilsons image (see looks nothing like her current picture on wikipedia)
Yes, but it's not at "A defining characteristic is one that reliable sources commonly and consistently define the subject as having—such as nationality or notable profession (in the case of people), type of location or region (in the case of places)," is it? But at least there are sources. Fwiw, my understanding of
WP:CATDEF is that it too early to have those cats here. They aren't meant for LGBT-tagging.
Gråbergs Gråa Sång (
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08:03, 10 June 2022 (UTC)reply
WP:CATDEF is mainly applicable to the existence of a category. Which implies, once the category exists and the article fulfils the qualification criteria of the category the article can be added to the category. One source will usually suffice, unless there is controversy about it.
Marcocapelle (
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05:06, 20 July 2022 (UTC)reply
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change "I thought I was searching for a Disney Prince, but what I really needed all this time was a Disney Princess." to “I thought I was searching for a Disney Prince… but maybe what I really needed all this time was a Disney Princess” as per the linked source
change “they were about to publish details of the relationship.” to “they planned to publish details of the relationship”
Ad0502 (
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14:53, 11 June 2022 (UTC)reply
"She chose to out herself after The Sydney Morning Herald asked her about the relationship"
This phrasing is inaccurate. They didn't ask her about the relationship, they told her they were publicizing her relationship in two days. This is generally considered unethical. There is an established journalistic ethics tradition of only outing celebrities under certain circumstances: If they publicly advocate violence or homophobic policy against gay people, or if they are deceased.
The SMH further doubled down and published an op-ed taking issue with Wilson 'scooping' the story of her own sexuality, and using as 'justification' the fact that Rebel Wilson had publicized her heterosexual relationship with an attractive and wealthy man. It seems quite clear there was never any doubt the outing story would be published.
So, it was an abundance of caution and respect that this media outlet emailed Rebel Wilson’s representatives on Thursday morning, giving her two days to comment on her new relationship with another woman, LA leisure wear designer Ramona Agruma, before publishing a single word.
Big mistake. Wilson opted to gazump the story, posting about her new “Disney Princess” on Instagram early Friday morning, the same platform she had previously used to brag about her handsome ex-boyfriend, wealthy American beer baron Jacob Busch.
... Of course who anyone dates is their business, but Wilson happily fed such prurient interest when she had a hunky boyfriend on her arm.
I've edited the article to reflect this. Given Hornery seems to have a track record of outing people for his gossip column, I'll also double check elsewhere on the encyclopedia where his articles are used, because I can't for the life of me think why anyone would think Private Sydney is a
reliable source, even if the rest of the SMH is. Sceptre (
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03:07, 12 June 2022 (UTC)reply
I'm just going to hope it was a language barrier issue on the part of the editor who changed it to "asked" because that's pretty egregious. Anyway here are some other reaction articles:
@
Pokelova That was me, see
[2]. IMO, it was a reasonable reading of the source that was there, prompted by Semi-protected edit request on 11 June 2022 above. It's still the only source there, and it does not clearly support the current text "She chose to announce her relationship with Arguma to pre-empt an article by The Sydney Morning Herald which would have outed her." The SMH does not say that they would have published something, that is an assumption based "of course they would have since they asked", but that is not WP-good reasoning. It can probably be fixed by adding some
WP:BLP-good not-SMH source.
Gråbergs Gråa Sång (
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08:47, 12 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Hornery’s self-aggrandising article complaining about being “gazumped” really cannot be read any other way than the paper preparing to out Wilson before she did it herself.
The “we’re just reporting the news, what are you implying about our intentions?” excuse didn’t work when the SMH infamously outed the
78ers, and based on the reaction to Hornery’s column, it isn’t working now either. Sceptre (
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10:58, 12 June 2022 (UTC)reply
For American readers who might be unfamiliar with the term:
Hornery (himself a gay man) has said "It is not the Herald’s business to “out” people and that is not what we set out to do."
[3]WWGB (
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07:02, 13 June 2022 (UTC)reply
The article says Wilson's claim about being related to Lillian Disney is "disputed by genealogist Dale Sheridan," and the Yahoo! source it links to also calls him "Dale Sheridan," but his name as per the blog Yahoo! cites is actually "Dale Sheldon."
Sadiemonster (
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03:39, 6 April 2024 (UTC)reply