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This article is no longer about the russian novel, rather it is now about the English Translation, should this be moved/redirected to Night Watch (novel), i noticed that Day Watch and Dusk Watch have already been fixed but not this one? JavaByte 22:07, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
I am aware that the current English Subtitled version of Night Watch calls Lena "Tiger-cub". While that's an accurate translation, it does not convey the original connotation of her name (Тигрёнок). Therefore, I am calling her "Tigger", which is the closest thing English language has to a proper connotation of her nickname. -- Strannik 22:18, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)
I think that Twilight is a better translation of сумрак, even though the English DVD subtitles used the word Gloom. Twilight just sounds much nicer in English - сумрак is supposed to sound magical and mysterious, and I think Twilight is a much better word for this purpose. If you prefer the official movie version, feel free to change it back, though, I won't mind. The rest of my changes were just corrections to grammar and spelling, such as forgotten "the"s and "a"s. -Lena
The Preferred translation appears to be Dusk Watch, though only the publishers can decide this when an English translation finally appears best to put both titles i feel, my source for the title Dusk Watch is the New York Daily news, it references Dusk Watch as the title of the 3rd Film (which will be shot in English) (Source: NY daily News
[1]) and also JoBlo (the movie critic)
[2] -JC(S1)
twilight. Additionally it sounds better as a "thing to be summoned" to my (American English) ear. However there is a sort of dark, sinister or depressed connotation to gloom that twilight does not have, and which is not really present in the book. Personally given the way the movie was changed form the book in order to make a movie that glooom was the right choice for the movie and twilight the right choice for the book. But that is just my on personal taste in things. Dalf | Talk 00:09, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
I think that the word "gloom" implies darkness, but the whole point behind the sumrak is that it is between light and darkness. The sumrak isn't dark, it's gray, or as it said in the book, what happens when you turn the contrast on your TV as low as it will go. There isn't a perfect word for it in English, but I prefer Dusk or Twilight to Gloom. -andrei
Not an edit, but a question, is there an Enlish version of a trilogy? Have the books been translated? If yes, where can i buy them? Lena
-- Greed 10:43, 4 Mar 2006 (UTC)
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Does it lists chars from first book only or from all four? In first case, Svetlana shouldn't be called Grand Sorceress, nor Kostya was the High Vampire by the end of NW. If the list is for chars of all Watches, it should also include Nadya, Edgar, Arina, Vitaly Rogoza, Alisher, Thomas Lermont and probably, even Merlin.
Maybe, list even deserves being a separate article? -- MaxSem talk 08:17, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
- Наши сознания держатся в чужих телах лишь благодаря энергии, затраченной Борисом Игнатьевичем... Гесером.
Does this mean that Geser is his surname? No, and no other mention of B. I. & Geser in the same sentence in all four books. Darth MaxSem ☠ 16:04, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
Also, how could it be his (public) surname if Anton worked in NW for five years and didn't knew it? Darth MaxSem ☠ 16:08, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
Why exactly are these books classified here as being science fiction? Modern fantasy would be far more apt. Heptapod 05:58, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
I would say Fantasy/Horror personally, what is the publishers classification? i've had a look and been unable to find this information-JC(SC1)
According to the ISFDB page, Miramax-Weinstein is going to release an edition of Night Watch in July. I assume it will be a translation, but is this true? What exactly is going on? I am hoping I will be able to read the book without having to learn Russian :-). Golwengaud 22:25, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
Strannik 07:13, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
I have a question. I saw the movie and never got the chance to read the book, because I keep traveling around. I think I have finnaly settled in U.S.A. and as soon as the book is published in English I will read it. So, is the book better then the movie?
Я имею вопрос. Что лучше: книга или кино?
I don't think Tiget Cub's fate should be mentioned in this article, as it has nothing to do with the first novel. There is an article for the Day Watch novel, where this is mentioned. Chronolegion 15:41, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
While the movie used "Zavulon", the English translation of the book used "Zabulon." On his blog, Lukyaninko said that he regarded the latter as the proper translation, as it was the English version of the name of the original inspiration behind the character's name. We should probably change it accordingly-- Strannik 19:18, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
I just read the translated version of the novel I bought in New Zealand, and the Gloom is refered to as the twilight. Has it been translated differently in other parts of the world? Should the article refelect this difference? Sabine's Sunbird talk 01:48, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Should the article only include Gloom information that is present in the first book (e.g. the exact number of levels, what the 7th level really is, who was the "ghost")? Chronolegion 11:32, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
I believe the information regarding Anton's exposure to "Fuaran" should be cut from the article. This belongs in the third book's article, not here. Chronolegion 15:32, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
I agree with this and would do it myself if I had a login - I came to refresh myself on some stuff from this particular book and am only in the middle of the second. Future spoilers are ridiculous. 68.21.38.223 14:48, 23 April 2007 (UTC)MD
"When Dark Ones feed on pain or anger, pain or anger becomes stronger."
According to Day Watch, in which Alisa 'drinks' the bad dreams of children and those bad dreams dissipate, this is not correct, but rather the opposite of canon. Can somebody provide clarification, here? Should it be fixed? I can hunt down page numbers if need be (for the recently released translation) Leishu 01:54, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
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Most of the article deals with the Night Watch universe, including a lot of info that doesn't come into play until later books. A new general article should be created to cover that subject. This article hardly contains any info about the plot of the book at all. If no one disagrees, I'll step forward and add that like I did to Day Watch (novel). Thanks! - Richfife 19:37, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
I wrote the plot summaries for the three stories and the ending, where Olga rewrote someone else's destiny (we don't know whose destiny it was so far, because it hasn't been revealed in this book) was edited by an unnamed user who mentioned it was her own.
Now I'm a little confused here, please help me out. If I remember, the destiny Olga rewrote was Svetlana's, she adjusted the day of birth of her future child to make the child a Light Messiah. But the user states Olga rewrote her own destiny to have her powers restored. Those who still remember, please, could you say who is right?
I'm sorry! My english level is very badly. because I used translater.(Initially in the book there is a hint that it has simply cleared Egor's destiny. Has returned it on a level when it is not declined neither to Light, nor to Darkness. That was actually it becomes known in following books). lexo from Hero-Moscow, Russian Federation 83.167.98.19 ( talk) 08:12, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks in advance. SaniOKh ( talk) 05:58, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
In third book, twilight watch, it's clearly said that Olga rewrote Nadia's destiny [daughter of Svetlana]. —Preceding
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I have only read night watch so these points may be wrong, Olga is an ex-great sorcoress and had most of her powers removed after she did something wrong, I think Boris says Svetlana is potentially more powerful than him so doesn't that mean he's not a grand magician, in tiger cubs description it says animals are scared of others but I think in the book it says they are scared of dark ones but like light ones, for dark others someone could add about Alisas partner who dies (forgotten his name) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.136.219.167 ( talk) 15:36, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
The article states that Egor is low lvl "His potential mage level is very low (6 or 7)." Yes in the first book his power was increast by Gesar to make him seem like a very powerful magician. I don't remember if it was stated out right in the text about his level but I do remember Gesar saing at one point that "most don't even get what he got". This would indicate that Egor would have the potential for a 3 or 4 level. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.98.98.98 ( talk) 15:30, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
The current article states that "Shapeshifters seem to choose one animal type for their transformations". Yet in Day Watch, Alisa is driven to the resort by a shapeshifter who tells her that he dislikes his form because it is that of a herbivore lizard, with flat teeth unsuited for attacks. This implies that shapeshifters have no say in the kind of animal they transform into. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:F5:873B:CB01:D109:E243:3B10:6371 ( talk) 21:19, 5 December 2020 (UTC)