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Here's a brain dump for stuff this article should cover
Procurement of the aircraft, including political debates
Australian involvement in development of the C variant
The RF-111C modifications
Use of a RF-111C to spy on the Tasmanian Government during the
Franklin Dam debate
The Australian government turning down a US request for RF-111s during the 1991 Gulf War
Procurement of additional F-111Cs by modifying US aircraft to replace attrition losses
Procurement of F-111Gs to free the F-111Cs from some training tasks
Modifications in the 1990s, including the resulting low availability rates
The role played by F-111s during the intervention in East Timor in 1999 (in short, several were forward deployed to RAAF Base Tindal and kept in a high state of readiness in case fighting broke out with Indonesia)
Why F/A-18s rather than F-111s took part in the 2003 Iraq War
The much-delayed
AGM-142 Have Nap integration during the late 1990s and 2000s
The seal-reseal scandal (in which the RAAF knowing exposed dozens (hundreds?) of F-111 maintainence workers to dangerous chemicals)
Article has While the F-111 has not seen combat in Australian service, it is known that F-111 aircraft were placed on high alert during the initial phase of the Australian-lead intervention (INTERFET) into East Timor in 1999. In an article in Air Forces Monthly in October 2006 it says they flew their first operational sorties after 26 years service when they flew operational recon sorties over East Timor between 6 November and 9 December 99. Sounds like it should be added when that bit is revised but could do with an Australian view on it.
MilborneOne (
talk)
20:28, 5 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Background info?
How much background is needed on before Australia got involved? I'm thinking briefly mentioning the combining of US Air Force & Navy requirements, RFP release and the selection of General Dynamics. Looks like Australia's order in 1963 was its first real involvement with the F-111. Is there anything before this that should be mentioned? -
Fnlayson (
talk)
05:44, 4 February 2010 (UTC)reply
Australia's consideration of acquiring nuclear weapons in the 1950s, the near war with Indonesia during the Indonesia-Malaysia confrontation and the limitations of the RAAF's Canberra force influenced the decision to go with the F-111. The Canberras' problems were quite important as they demonstrated that buying a smallish number (48) of OK quality aircraft couldn't meet Australia's needs, and that it was worth buying very high performance aircraft so that Australia had a credible strike capability, even if it meant that fewer aircraft could be afforded.
Nick-D (
talk)
06:27, 4 February 2010 (UTC)reply
That does not seem strictly F-111 specific. Maybe the
BAC TSR-2 could have filled the nuke strike role instead. Anyway, I don't have the sources for that. So I'll have to leave that you and/or others. I'll try to do a summary as outlined in the 2nd sentence of my original post above then. -
Fnlayson (
talk)
06:52, 4 February 2010 (UTC)reply
How much more work do we need to do to get this ready for live status? I'd like to get into mainspace before the F-111C's scheduled RAAF retirement. (I thinks it's Dec 10, 2010?) -
BilCat (
talk)
22:54, 8 November 2010 (UTC)reply
The main issue is that the 'Development' and 'Design' sections need to be made specific to this variant. We also need to decide how to cover the F-111Gs as it's a bit odd to have them listed as a variant of the 'C' variant.
Nick-D (
talk)
07:26, 9 November 2010 (UTC)reply
I don't think I have any info left I can add to this one. I could help trim info covered in main F-111 article, like on F-111A, and FB-111/F-111G, but need some input/guidance on how much to keep here. -
fnlayson (
talk)
21:49, 11 November 2010 (UTC)reply
On the G- model, I believe the C used the same wing as the FB/G, so if we can confirm that, it should be added. My usual approach on Variants is to cover the prose in the main text sections, and have the Variants section be a list with short details, and numbers produiced, etc. This would put the G info in the main text, probably under Oper. history, and just detail the minumum about the RAAF purchases. As far as background, one or two paragraphs on the program itself, including the Britisk F-111K, but not details, then go straight into the RAAF procurement. I'll look at it in the next few days, and see what I can do on that. As to the main article, bascially remove most info on the C ecept for a link/shourt prose in the Variants, and possibly one pic there, pus the appropirate links in Infobox and see also. -
BilCat (
talk)
22:15, 11 November 2010 (UTC)reply
I think covering the G as a variant is confusing and should just be a mentioned in the operation history section. This is really an article on the C not an article on Australian use of the F-111, or am I wrong?
MilborneOne (
talk)
22:21, 11 November 2010 (UTC)reply
OK, I removed the FB-111A/G subsection and linked the first mention. Also, trimmed some general F-111 info from the Design section. I can add some info on the wing attach points that delayed acceptance. Parts of the article needs cites, such as in the Op. history section. The F-111B/C/K and FB-111A had the long wings and the other variants had the short wings. The FB-111A/G had longer fuselage and higher MTOW. -
fnlayson (
talk)
16:48, 12 November 2010 (UTC)reply
I am almost out of Australian content I can add. One of my books mentions Pig as its nickname, but not really why. In any event the article seems good enough to move to main space, if someone wants to do so. -
fnlayson (
talk)
19:37, 27 December 2010 (UTC)reply
Notable appearances in media
I have removed the "Notable appearances in media" section, for two reasons:
There is no indication, either in the single source that was provided or in the articles that were linked, that the songs "F-111" (by Cold Chisel) and "
Love Missile F1-11" (by Sigue Sigue Sputnik) reference the F-111C, and not the F-111 Aardvark, F-111B or EF-111.
No sources were provided to support the assertion that these songs are "notable appearances" of the aircraft in media, or the implication that the connection between the aircraft and the songs' titles/lyrics is a significant or noteworthy one.
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