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"Russian Woodpecker" is the casual name apparently given by geopolitically ignorant ham radio fans. If a group of ham radio fans in, say, Spain started calling the "West Austin Antenna Farm" in Texas the "Massachusetts Porcupine", that would not be sufficient reason for encyclopedic articles to refer to it as such. As such, I have put "Russian" in quotes and added (sic) to this. But really, this nickname really has no use in this article at all except perhaps as an extremely small footnote. The misleading nickname given by foreigners to a real item with a real name and a real designation should not be particularly important except, again, in the margins to help those who might be google searching based on old misunderstandings.
82.8.134.144 ( talk) 10:42, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
These terms are being used about seemingly the same phenomenon. However, the sources seem to diverge, so the label differs. Can some of the "Operation W" sources be used for expansion of this article perhaps? __
meco
17:14, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Interesting source about this one and other radio-mysteries:
http://ds.dial.pipex.com/brogers/wpecker.htm
"Operation Woodpecker" is a made-up name created by the conspiracy theorists to suggest that the US was involved in making the Duga-3 radars control [your mind, the weather, etc.]. It seems to be based on some confusion over the term "woodpecker", but this isn't surprising considering the one site can't even figure out that 1978 is two years after 1976, not one. Maury 22:19, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
What is this location then? Chernobyl-2 Kgrr ( talk) 08:25, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
On the "Weather Warfare" episode of the show "That's Impossible," it was suggested that this was used to alter the jet stream and cause the California drought between 1988-1992. Seems absurd, but maybe some mention should be made on this page. Zelmerszoetrop ( talk) 09:22, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
If this was indeed a radar, then it certainly wasn't intended as a missile early warning system radar. Radar can't pick up an object that is smaller than its wavelength and even for an object that is bigger only by a wavelength or two, you won't get enough of a return off it without massive power. The wavelength for the highest woodpecker frequency is 15.8M. Even the largest Titan missiles were only about 32m, two wavelengths of the highest frequency, and only that if the missile were broadside aspect to the radar. The missile is much smaller than the wavelength of the woodpecker's lowest frequency. Even if you could get a return, and there is not a chance you could localize where the return was from at that frequency. There are some very basic laws of radio propagation which insist, rather strongly, that this was anything except an early warning radar. I wish someone with some sense and credentials would write an article to that effect so it could be quoted and included in the article.
Does someone know more about the piece of Techno music made of Woodpecker's signal? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.46.238.89 ( talk) 13:57, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
The article currently states that: "The game heavily features actual locations in the area, including the Duga-3 array. It is presented as the "Brain Scorcher", a wide-area mind control device which must be deactivated by the player."
This is not correct. I have played the game in question, and the Russian Woodpecker is not presented as the "brain scorcher". The Brain Scorcher is a fictional array, consisting of five independently standing towers, the design of which can be seen here in an in-game screenshot. The two arrays are nothing alike, and the subsection needs to reflect that or be removed. - User:Mriya 09:46, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
I updated the list of coordinates to say which was the transmitter, and which the receiver, for the Siberian installation. However, I couldn't find any sources listing which was which. I looked at the satellite photos, and the Chernobyl transmitter has a medium building and a small building, while the receiver has a single large building. The Siberian installation has the same pattern (no surprise; it's the same design). I therefore tagged the Siberian transmitter and receiver coords according to the buildings present at those sites. If anyone has a better reference, please add it. Thanks! — Cxw ( talk) 18:44, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Is the receiver bit of the western woodpecker actually in Ukraine - or is it in Belarus? Secretlondon ( talk) 17:50, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
http://inotv.rt.com/2011-04-22/Sekretnaya-laboratoriya-CHernobilya-raskrila-svoi It's a bit exaggerated but Russia Today has a video report on the Pripyat (Chernobyl-2) site. Secretlondon ( talk) 00:24, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
Are the physical dimensions of the array known or estimated? If so, could we include that data in the article please? I'm most curious about the height of the antenna array or towers. The number of elements in the array would also be interesting. – voidxor ( talk | contrib) 09:44, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
Did the Chernobyl disaster cause any disruption to transmissions/operartions and if so for how long ? 90.198.231.12 ( talk) 20:15, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
But the article gives the closure date as 1989. Three years after the Chernobyl disaster ? 81.159.10.144 ( talk) 13:50, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
It's obviously not reappeared, whatever newsweek think. The receiver side has been demolished, and the transmitter is just the old array, no electronics. There are other over the horizon radars out there - a British one in Cyprus, a Russian one called konteyner, and many others which could be the source of this signal, if it is a radar. Secretlondon ( talk) 13:51, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
Although the title of this article is Duga-3, only Duga-1 and Duga-2 appear in the text of the article. Need to clarify what Duga-3 is and is not. -- Theodore Kloba ( talk) 20:01, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Based on official Chernobyl tour operator article, there was no Duga-3 and the name is a mistake amplified by popular culture. So, the sites should be named like this:
Tarmo888 ( talk) 08:48, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
Per suggestions on respective talk pages, I went ahead and merged stub articles on individual locations Duga-1 and Duga-2, Duga-3 (western) transmitter, Duga-3 (western) receiver, Duga-3 (eastern) transmitter, and Duga-3 (eastern) receiver here, and enhanced location maps in this article. I understand they were split primarily for the purpose of Google Maps geocoding, but that rationale seems weak, and there are probably better ways to do it (didn't investigate). The template:Soviet OTH radar locations is now orphaned and should be put to a TFD, but I'm short on time right now, so I'd appreciate if someone else would do that. No such user ( talk) 12:57, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
The text states "Duga-1 was built in northern Ukraine, between Liubech and Chernobyl-2, with the transmitter at 51°18′19.06″N 30°03′57.35″E located a few kilometers west-north-west of Chernobyl.", however the map shows that site to be the receiver. (see included map)
One of the two must be wrong. Is it the text, or the map? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steltek ( talk • contribs) 08:47, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
This is fixed now. 108.2.202.9 ( talk) 03:20, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
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Does anyone have any proof or links to amateurs using the transmitter aerial? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.159.132.104 ( talk) 11:01, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
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