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I just wanted to notify WP members that
tokoyama is now considered a Good Article :)
Looking over the WP's Assessments page, I was also wondering about the chances of promoting Takerufuji to
Wikipedia:In the news after his historical championship? Who here had already submitted articles for ITN? -
OtharLuin (
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07:47, 26 March 2024 (UTC)reply
I have submitted a few. It would be a long shot, but I think it might be worth a try. I remember Hakuho's retirement was nominated, but
did not get consensus. (Generally sports retirements are not considered noteworthy enough because they can be reversed....) Takerufuji's record has been picked up outside Japan, eg
[1] which is in its favour. Incidentally, any yokozuna promotion is assumed to be noteworthy for ITN per
Wikipedia:In the news/Recurring items.
Pawnkingthree (
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14:43, 26 March 2024 (UTC)reply
It could indeed be complicated... I don't know if there are any article quality requirements for proposing an ITN either. Could you take a look at the article and tell me what you think of its overall condition? It would be a good idea not to delay too long, to avoid going overboard and proposing the article late after the end of the tournament. -
OtharLuin (
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10:15, 27 March 2024 (UTC)reply
That's ITN/R, so presumed to be notable and only judged on article quality. College sports are big in the US I guess. We could get Akebono posted to the Recent Deaths section, but a lot of his post-sumo career needs more citations.
Pawnkingthree (
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21:51, 11 April 2024 (UTC)reply
That's probably true, but I still find it frustrating that the users who vote in ITN are making us heavily dependent on a rule established over 10 years ago and which grants us only 0.3 nominations per year when most sports (even the most incongruous) are entitled to at least two (annual men's and women's competitions)...
Thanks, I see some supports but it won't get posted until more references are added. Unfortunately it's mostly the pro wrestling section which is not my area of interest :) I'll see what I can do.
Pawnkingthree (
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13:37, 12 April 2024 (UTC)reply
WP:SUMO conventions
I'm thinking about this project I had about WP:SUMO conventions after @
ArguaBILL: added some yesterday. Since I've been here, I've seen that @
JRHorse: and I have slightly different presentation conventions, or even that @
Zeyes: also had his own interpretation on the standardization of infoboxes. I'm not even talking about the hazardous assessment ranking
Do you think it would be a good idea for us to discuss the WP conventions in a little more detail on the talk page of
Wikipedia:WikiProject Sumo/Conventions? This could take the form of a question on the subjects already mentioned and voting 'support' or 'oppose' or adding another idea, as is already done for front page nomination processes?
Perfectly happy to have such a discussion, I think's been about 15 years since we had one :) Would suggest leaving a notification here though once it starts, as I doubt many people watch that page. --
Pawnkingthree (
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13:55, 17 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I honestly don't know, there's around six frequent users at WP:SUMO but only half of them participated, myself included. I think it's a good basis for a convention though -
OtharLuin (
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13:39, 13 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Kotozakura Masakatsu II
I also posted on the respective talk page but.. Kotonowaka's ring name is now Kotozakura Masakatsu. Just wanted to confirm before I move the page that the name of the article should now be Kotozakura Masakatsu II.
JRHorse (
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21:57, 29 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Hello everyone, it's now mid-2024 and I've come up with the idea of reworking the article on the
Japan Sumo Association because the association's centenary is fast approaching = its first official version, the All Japan Sumo Association, was founded in 1925 (on 9 December according to the Japanese article).
I've started to simplify/clarify the article
on my sandbox but I'd like a bit of help, particularly to improve text quotation. The Japanese article isn't much help, and I'm coming to the end of the WP bibliography to complete the rest of the work. Even if we have the time, it would be good if it was a group project, especially so that it could be mentioned in
WP:OTD. -
OtharLuin (
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13:47, 3 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Hello JR, very solid start. I'll see if I can add some articles on the early rumors of the Nakamura break off. I think there was a Nikkan Sports article on that at the moment of a talk show event at the JSA. -
OtharLuin (
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10:23, 1 June 2024 (UTC)reply
I think so; the Japanese Wikipedia article contains information on both the active and the defunct stables, something which is sometimes done when article subjects share the exact same name down to the exact kanji used.
ArguaBILL (
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15:14, 1 June 2024 (UTC)reply
I know they do that on ja.wiki, but the two stables are entirely separate lineages with no connection to each other. We should keep them as separate articles.
Pawnkingthree (
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14:14, 4 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Based on the edit summary of a similar edit that editor made I think they did so because they expect the citations to include an English translation of their titles via the "
trans-title" parameter. However, the wording at
Help:Citation_Style_1#Titles_and_chapters suggests to me that doing so is optional. I also do not think
Template:Not English is meant to be used for that in the first place. So if no one wants to add translations, I see no problem in just removing the template from the page.
Xfansd (
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01:46, 4 June 2024 (UTC)reply
I usually try to add an English translation of the title of the reference, but I agree with Xfansd that I don't think it's mandatory. That header suggests the article could be put up for AfD in two weeks if it's not addressed? Never heard of that, and I don't see how it could be a valid reason for deletion.
Pawnkingthree (
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14:12, 4 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Recently, I was lucky enough to go see Sumo + Sushi, an event hosted by Konishiki that tours around the U.S., introducing Sumo to American audiences. The event featured several retired wrestlers, including Takagenji. I found one writeup on it
here. While I don't think the event merits its own article--at least not currently--it should probably be added to Konishiki's article in the Life after Sumo section.
Lkb335 (
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13:51, 17 June 2024 (UTC)reply