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Fenix down
Folks, User Fenix down, has been making unconstructive deletion nominations to WP:CSOC articles. I'll be reporting him to the admins for blocking and possibly banning him from being a member of WP:CSOC if he keeps it up.
Cobyan02069 (
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14:26, 13 March 2017 (UTC)reply
Just want to let you all know, I have left Fenix a message in his talk box warning him about his unconstructive edits. If he continues this behavior, I will report him to admins.
Cobyan02069 (
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22:14, 15 March 2017 (UTC)reply
I'm not sure if I saw some conversation about this here or somewhere else, but it looks like the ACC is going to have a
Spring season in 2021. How should we go about adding these games to the team's pages? Do we make a new page for 2021 spring? Or re-name all the 2020 pages as 2020–21? Or just add this spring schedule to 2021 pages? Thanks
Swimmer33 (
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13:55, 24 January 2021 (UTC)reply
I think the best course of action would be to create new pages for 2021 (Spring) since teams will have different rosters as some players will leave via the MLS draft and some will stay. Then we could have 2021 (Fall) teams for when that season starts. I'm not sure how that would effect nextyear and prevyear in the infobox templates though...
Swimmer33 (
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19:17, 26 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Yes, that is what I'm thinking. Plus, I think it would avoid the hassle of the infobox templates. Not to mention several programs and conferences
12 are branding their tournaments and seasons as the "2020 season", despite playing 2021.
Unless reliable sources state otherwise, I think this makes the most sense. Same for team seasons. I don't keep too up to date on the NCAA, but the schedule is only different this school year due to COVID i.e. they haven't fully transitioned to a split season format like Europe, right? So anything that will take place this school year, even if played in 2021, should probably be referred to as the "2020 season", kind of like the Olympics. Presumably teams will play again in the Fall, which would then be the 2021 season.
Is there any reason not to have two separate templates for this i.e. Spring and Fall? I don't really know how the ACC is doing their second season, but I recall seeing something about a playoff for the NCAA tournament. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me to use one template, especially for an article like
2020 NCAA Division I men's soccer season which already has a division for Fall and Spring, but since I don't follow that conference at all I can't say for sure.
Jay eyem (
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16:53, 5 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Also, are the teams in each conference different for each season, or are they the same? If they're the same, you could probably just do "North/Atlantic" or "South/Coastal". Otherwise, I think two separate templates would be prudent.
Jay eyem (
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16:57, 5 March 2021 (UTC)reply
To answer your questions above: no, the divisions are not the same. They separated north/south to reduce travel in the fall and now are back to the normal Atlantic/Coastal. The auto qualifier is going to be winner of Atlantic vs. winner of Coastal. Then winner of that plays Clemson.
Swimmer33 (
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18:20, 5 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Ok, I made a separate template. It might need some clean up with the title for clarification. I tried to edit the old one to make it say Fall only but that wasn't really working out. In the new
template I made, for some reason the v is a redlink but I'm not sure why. Any help would be appreciated!
Swimmer33 (
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18:20, 5 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Hi everyone in WP:CSOC. I'm trying to understand Wikipedia's consensus of notability for NCAA soccer articles, and I wanted to see what everyone's opinion is on the notability for U Sports soccer in Canada? Obviously U Sports is a lot less notable than NCAA and likely draws less coverage than the NCAA College Cup, but I feel there are likely some topics of U Sports that can meet
WP:GNG and
WP:SIGCOV, and even
WP:NSEASONS. I would love to hear your opinions.
SecretlyQuebecois (
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20:19, 13 October 2021 (UTC)reply
I don't believe I have the requisite understanding of the U Sports landscape to provide an informed decision. I typically steer on the side of caution as it relates to notability, so would defer to significant coverage in reliable, independent, secondary sources.
GauchoDude (
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12:08, 14 October 2021 (UTC)reply
@
GauchoDude: So my story of starting to contribute was attending Clemson and noticing that the
2014 Clemson season had been made, so I started keeping it up and further maintaining it. I eventually expanded to the women's side, and never really knew about
WP:GNG or
WP:NSEASONS. I never really had an issue with admins approving the pages when they follow
the template@
Quidster4040: made. So I had a little more time on my hands as my work situation changed so I started making season pages for all the ACC soccer teams. Never really had an issue with anything getting not approved by admins and never had any of the pages get nominated for deletion. Citing sources for the new recruits from Top Drawer Soccer gives the pages some non-school related coverage and I think that helped with approval. Additionally, I create some college basketball seasons and they have even fewer references when created. I haven't had an issue with those pages being approved for men's basketball, but frequently the women's basketball seasons with the same number & quality of reference would get the ref improve tag on them, so I always felt that was kinda biased. We've also had the fight over if U women's soccer tournaments are notable and I think @
Cobyan02069: can reference those nominations where they were approved to be kept up. So in general I feel like they are notable as long as references from Top Drawer soccer or United Soccer Coaches are provided.
Swimmer33 (
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13:18, 14 October 2021 (UTC)reply