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Every dump I have to cleanup 40 or so citations that were added via cite web / cite journal
{{cite web |last1=O'Connell |first1=Heath B. |title=Physicists Thriving with Paperless Publishing |url=https://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0007040 |website=arXiv:physics/0007040 |date=13 July 2000}}
{{cite journal |last1=O'Connell |first1=Heath B. |title=Physicists Thriving with Paperless Publishing |journal=arXiv:physics/0007040 |date=13 July 2000 |url=https://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0007040}}
When really they should be making use of {{ cite arXiv}}
{{Cite arxiv|last1=O'Connell|first1=Heath B.|title=Physicists Thriving with Paperless Publishing|date=13 July 2000|eprint=physics/0007040}}
Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 11:30, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Dear developers,
Can you add the autofill function for CNKI? CNKI contains most journals in China Mainland. As I know, zotero (RefToolbar uses its scripts) already supports CNKI. Why I still cannot use it in Wikipedia? If there is anything I can help, I will.-- The Master ( talk) 14:31, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
RefToolbar no longer seems to be working. I'm getting ""Use of "mw.toolbar" is deprecated" and "title=User:Apoc2400/refToolbarPlus.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript:1 You installed the userscript User:Apoc2400/refToolbarPlus.js It is no longer working and you should uninstall it." when I use debug mode. Any idea? Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 02:42, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
Please make clear that QIDs can be used to fetch data from Wikidata, as discussed at https://www.mediawiki.org/?title=Topic:Updg9d8bh3xhy6g7 - a simple change to the relevant label should suffice. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:25, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
How do you configure this for yourself as an individual user?
The Configuration section says "... this version is highly customizable sitewide and on a per-user basis."
Its Individual users subsection says "No customization is required, the script will use the sitewide defaults "out of the box". All user configuration options override the sitewide options."
Do you just copy MediaWiki:RefToolbarConfig.js to your user space and edit? TJRC ( talk) 23:42, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
Do not appear to be working the last couple of days? Are people aware of this? Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 07:47, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
Noted this on Huaynaputina: Wikipedia:RefToolbar isn't interpreting ScienceDirect links correctly. For example, https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1125786504700090 isn't being resolved or resolved to a "cite web" template when it should make "cite journal". Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 20:42, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
By default, there is "cite web", "cite news", "cite book", and "cite journal" under the cite tab on RefToolbar 2.0. Example: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:Ylevental/sandbox&action=edit
However, magazines are a popular medium of information, so "cite magazine" should be added to the options. Ylevental ( talk) 16:35, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
|journal=
to |magazine=
. Perhaps removing the presentation of identifier field by default as well, since magazines tend to not have bibcodes/pmids/dois and the like.
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21:50, 28 March 2019 (UTC)Hi. I have a few questions that maybe User:Kaldari or others could answer.
Thanks huji— TALK 22:51, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
Wondering were this problem is from? I can try to reach out to the NIH if the problem is on there end. User:Kaldari you know? Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 20:19, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
I requested this in 2017 but got no reply: in the Web Citation popover, can we please have a checkbox (or a select menu) to specify deadurl=yes/no? I can fill in Archive URL and Archive Date in the form, but after I have inserted the reference into the article, I have to go in and type the "deadurl" bit manually, which is a bit fiddly. Can someone please add this? Thanks. Cnbrb ( talk) 09:53, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Please make clear that QIDs can be used to fetch data from Wikidata, as discussed at https://www.mediawiki.org/?title=Topic:Updg9d8bh3xhy6g7 - a simple change to the relevant label should suffice. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:25, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
I've restored the above from the archive, as it's unresolved. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:42, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
It's pretty mad that {{
cite web}} doesn't have |date=
in the options. Please add it.
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02:32, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
I found out by chance that
the citation template has changed and now uses url-status=
instead of deadurl=
. Could we possibly now have a checkbox added to the reftoolbar popup checkbox to specify url-status=live/dead
? It would be very helpful. Thank you.
Cnbrb (
talk)
13:41, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
This is one of the most important tools on Wikipedia. However for larger pages simple does not load when I am on a slow connection. I than need to open a small section to get the tool. Generate the citation and copy and paste it into place on the larger page. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 00:03, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
It would be great if RefToolbar included more cite templates such as {{ cite podcast}}, {{ cite AV media notes}}, {{ cite magazine}} and anything listed under Citation Style 1. Though {{ cite tweet}} is not listed in the CS1 page, I'd like that too included in RefToolbar. -- Kailash29792 (talk) 04:25, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
url-status
field should be defined for cite news
and cite book
The archive url
field is defined for cite news
and cite book
(when "show extra fields" is selected), therefore these should also include the url status
field. I.e. if you are setting archive url
, then it's pretty likely that you should also be setting archive date
and url-status
.
Fabrickator (
talk)
04:34, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
1. When attempting to cite The Times of India articles like this, the following ref fields are incorrect:
This is actually a reprint of a wire story (I think; pretty common, along with PTI), so we should instead have |agency=TNN
with |last1=
and |first1=
unfilled. The actual date of the article is "Apr 2, 2018", which should fill |date=2 April 2018
(since most articles citing Indian sources are likely dmy, unless we can look for the {{
Use * dates}} template in the edit window and set the date appropriately, which would be great).
The " - Times of India" should be removed.
The Times of India should preferably be wikilinked.
2. Also, at some point, as evidenced by 1173 articles that have the problem, it was doing this instead:
Is there a bot available that can fix these?
3. India Today cites have similar problems, e.g. this. These are included in the 1173 articles in the search in #2 above:
—[ AlanM1( talk)]— 22:59, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
|last3=Ist
got into the cs1|2 templates. Clearly there is a commonality which, though I don't know for absolute certain, I suspect to be citoid. If that is true, then the better place for this bug report is at phabricator.<div class="_3Mkg- byline">TNN | Apr 2, 2018, 07:35 IST</div>
. It would not surprise me to learn that citoid sees that byline class and attempts to convert the content of the <div>...</div>
tag to authors' names.{{
cite news}}
is the proper template; India Today is a news magazine so either {{cite news}}
or {{
cite magazine}}
. Don't know if I'd hold my breath for that fix.{{use xxx dates}}
. But, it isn't up to me and editors somehow think it important that dates written in template parameters must be in the form chosen for the article (when it makes absolutely no difference to our readers ...) ok, </soapbox>
{{Use ...}}
templates are present, but it was pointed out to me that editors might still wish to have the dates appear in source in the format they are used to, and as a reminder of the correct form to use in prose, all of which makes sense to me, so I thought I'd mention it. —[
AlanM1(
talk)]—
02:49, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
The CS1/2 template family
has recently been changed so that it no longer needs ref=harv specified, but it now throws a maintenance message if no Harv references are used. I figure that one solution would be to pre-fill the Ref inputbox with "none" (so that spurious maintenance messages don't occur), the other to create a toggle between Harv mode (output without </ref></ref>?) and ref tag mode (with <ref><ref> and with |ref=none
prefilled). Opinions?
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk)
12:33, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
|ref=harv
by default, it should stop doing that and just not add |ref=
at all.
Headbomb {
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12:45, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
|ref=harv
- to be clear, RefToolbar doesn't add that by default - but also for these without any |ref=
content. I've always wished for a form of RefToolbar output that doesn't have <ref></ref> tags as using both Harv and ref tags with the same reference is not common, but that's a slightly different issue.
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk)
12:54, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
|ref=harv
. There is an error category
Category:Harv and Sfn template errors that holds articles where
Module:Footnotes (the engine that renders the {{
harv}}
and {{
sfn}}
families of short-cite templates) when it cannot find an anchor ID that matches the anchor link that the short-cite templates need to function properly. This category also holds articles where more than one anchor ID matches the short-cite link.|ref=none
as any sort of default or pre-filled option. That would defeat the whole purpose of the change to the CS1 templates to enable automatic support of short citations without editors having to fiddle with the |ref=
parameter. –
Jonesey95 (
talk)
16:52, 20 April 2020 (UTC)When one uses "Cite" and then "cite journal" (as I often do) one gets a pop-up box in which one can put the author, title, et cetera. But if there are a lot of authors, then I want to use "display-authors=etal". It would be very nice if there were an option in that pop-up box to tell it to include "display-authors=etal"! Can someone add that? Otherwise I have to type it in manually. Eric Kvaalen ( talk) 12:27, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Citing sources § "Work" versus "agency" versus "publisher". {{u| Sdkb}} talk 21:06, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
Hello, I have had refToolbar installed on my wiki but recently it hasn't worked, I think since an upgrade to 1.34. I have tried following the instructions on this page, plus just copying it over from Wikipedia, and neither work. Is there something I'm missing? Thanks NemesisAT ( talk) 15:23, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
There is an RfC at Wikipedia talk:Citing sources#RfC: Citation tools regarding whetyer citation tools should allowed. Your input on this question is welcome. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 22:02, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
Could someone help us out with implementation at MediaWiki_talk:RefToolbarMessages-en.js#Interface-protected_edit_request_on_24_October_2020? Thanks, {{u| Sdkb}} talk 21:31, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
This
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Hi, when I do Cite web or Cite book, etc., the little date photo that one clicks on to autofill in today's access-date is not there. Is this function down, or am I doing something wrong? Funandtrvl ( talk) 00:17, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, maybe I'll post at VP too. Funandtrvl ( talk) 01:18, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
"autodate fields" : 'access-date'],
I've been in the practice of adding |via=
Newspapers.com
for times I get sources from Newspapers.com, but via isn't one of the default options for {{
Cite news}}
. Is there a way for me to add it on my end?
On a related note, a dropdown menu that can be turned on (off by default) that can add the open/free/closed access templates would be great. – Fredddie ™ 17:24, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
|via=
, we'll certainly want to have a tooltip, since it's not self-explanatory. There's also the question of whether it should be in the "show/hide extra fields" section or the main section. {{u|
Sdkb}}
talk
23:36, 24 November 2020 (UTC)RefToolbar has been ported into Burmese Wikipedia (my.wiki) including MediaWiki:RefToolbarMessages-en.js and MediaWiki:RefToolbarMessages-de.js. I made localized messages on my:MediaWiki:RefToolbarMessages-my.js, but the Burmese translation didn't work while en & de look fine. Any suggestion to work Burmese localization? Thanks. Ninja✮Strikers « ☎» 03:28, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
// Load local data - messages, cite templates, etc.
$(document).ready( function() {
switch( mw.config.get('wgUserLanguage') ) {
case 'de': // German
importScript('MediaWiki:RefToolbarMessages-de.js');
break;
case 'my': //Burmese
importScript('MediaWiki:RefToolbarMessages-my.js');
break;
default: // English
importScript('MediaWiki:RefToolbarMessages-en.js');
}
});
I have somehow lost both the RefToolbar and Wikedit, which makes things difficult to say the very least. All help appreciated — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doug Weller ( talk • contribs) 19:46, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
The Search icon for Advanced allows entry of a regular expression. Which regex syntax does it use, e.g., Perl, POSIX RE. Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul ( talk) 07:55, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
The calendar icon beside the "Access date" field disappeared some weeks ago. I stumbled upon the fix, which is to change, in my common.js, the fieldname in CiteTB.UserOptions['autodate fields'] = ['accessdate'];
from accessdate
to access-date
. Before changing it in the
Wikipedia:RefToolbar/2.0#Configuration documentation, I wanted to mention it here first in case there's something more to it. —[
AlanM1 (
talk)]—
04:45, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
I often find myself using {{ cite web}} for archived URLs. I love using the GUI to generate a web citation, especially with the Autofill button once I provide a URL. However, there is no Autofill button for the archived URL—I would like to request that one be added.
Currently, as a workaround, I will place the archived URL in the URL field and press the autofill button, then replace it with the original URL later. Autofill is almost always imperfect anyway, but this approach has several other problems: The date filled in the date field is always the archive date instead of the publication date (when using Wayback Machine at least) and the website name often ends up as "web.archive.org" if the autofill cannot otherwise find it. Since the autofill is obviously capable of retrieving the archive date, it would be great if having an autofill button next to the archive URL would mean that it would put the archive date into the correct field. -- Snorlax Monster 00:48, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
@
Kaldari: regarding
Wikipedia talk:RefToolbar/Archive 3#Request for Wikipedia to add the "cite magazine" citation template to RefToolbar, please reconsider this. Every day, I see {{
cite journal}}
, {{
cite news}}
and {{
cite web}}
all being misused when the work being cited is a magazine. {{
cite magazine}}
has been in existence for several years, and since the request two years ago its usage has more than doubled to 127,423 transclusions (as I write this). Note: this is follow-up to
User talk:Redrose64#cite magazine. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
22:15, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
editinterface
rights to implement it.
Kaldari (
talk)
18:47, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Could the "Archive URL" and "Archive date" fields be swapped? See this screenshot. Most date fields are on the left, and the top URL field is on the right, so I find myself frequently typing the archive date in the archive URL field and vice-versa when I'm trying to add archived links. – Srđan ( talk) 10:37, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
This
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Change
( mw.config.get('wgAction') === 'edit' || mw.config.get('wgAction') === 'submit' ) &&
( ( mw.config.get('wgNamespaceNumber') !== 2 && mw.config.get('wgNamespaceNumber') !== 4 ) ||
( mw.config.get('wgPageName').indexOf('.js') === -1 && mw.config.get('wgPageName').indexOf('.css') === -1 ) )
to
'edit', 'submit'].indexOf( mw.config.get('wgAction') ) !== -1 &&
2, 4].indexOf( mw.config.get('wgNamespaceNumber') ) === -1 &&
mw.config.get('wgPageContentModel') === 'wikitext'
which is a more reliable way of disabling refToolbar on pages where it's uncalled-for. Nardog ( talk) 13:17, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
By the way, I'm not so sure if the second line is necessary. Surely one occasionally needs to cite something in the User or Wikipedia namespace when crafting a draft or comment. Nardog ( talk) 13:19, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
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Insert
// Accomodate Citoid fix for T132308 (which should hopefully be temporary)
if ( /\d{4}-\d{2}-XX/.test(data.date) ) {
data.date = data.date.replace('-XX','');
}
at line 586 of MediaWiki:RefToolbar.js. Kaldari ( talk) 18:06, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
-XX
to produce YYYY-MM
which, because
MOS:DATES does not allow that format will cause:
{{
cite book}}
template that I created with RefToolbar:
cite book
from the Templates dropdown, entered 'Title' in the Title field, entered '2021-04' in the Date field, and clicked Insert. I don't see 'April 2021' in that citation.This needs to be in a try catch block as well, because citoid doesn't guarantee valid input. Zotero is a web scraper and it just puts whatever in the date field without checking it at all. Citoid only does weak validation (because we could never agree on a standard in order to make validation stricter), so this undefined error will continue to happen even with this fix, just more infrequently. Mvolz (WMF) ( talk) 09:54, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
It would be really helpful if it was possible to set the |url-status=
template parameter for the {{
cite news}} amd {{
cite book}} templates using the tool. It is already possible for the template {{
cite web}} and essentially this feature would be very helpful for the the two latter templates as well. The trouble is, if you add |archive-url=
and |archive-date=
to either template without setting the |url-status=
parameter, the template assumes that the original URL is dead. I set |url-status=
manually after inserting using RefToolbar, but less experienced users might be overlook this detail. The issue has been
brought up before, without being discussed or resolved. Let me know if I there is anything I can do to help make this happen.
askeuhd (
talk)
13:58, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/phoc/25/5/1520-0485_1995_025_0855_ieodc_2_0_co_2.xml this reference generates:
doi: 10.1175/1520-0485(1995)0252.0.CO;2
instead of the correct
doi: 10.1175/1520-0485(1995)025<0855:IEODC>2.0.CO;2
I have seen a bunch of these showing up recently in the broken doi category. I have been fixing them by hand, but now I know that this gadget is to blame. Lots of DOIs missing "<stuff>" in the middle. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 18:12, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
Does replacing this block look okay to everyone? If so I can add it myself as I do have the interface right but thought I'd check first in case anyone has any objections. It's needed because otherwise if a date is invalid, NaN will get inserted. This simply adds two try catch blocks around two places that use a Date. This code just doesn't add the date if it is invalid, but alternatively we could add it anyway in the catch block and let the user fix any errors. Mvolz (WMF) ( talk) 10:53, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
// Format partial dates of the format YYYY-MM or YYYY-MM-XX correctly
if ( data.date && /^\d{4}-\d{2}(-XX)?$/i.test(data.date) ) {
data.date = data.date.replace('-XX','');
try {
var DT = new Date(data.date);
$('.'+cl+'date').val(CiteTB.formatDate(DT, false, true));
} catch (e) {}
} else {
$('.'+cl+'date').val(data.date);
}
if (type === 'pmid' || type === 'doi') {
$('.'+cl+'journal').val(data.journal);
$('.'+cl+'volume').val(data.volume);
$('.'+cl+'issue').val(data.issue);
$('.'+cl+'pages').val(data.pages);
if (type === 'pmid' && data.doi) {
$('.'+cl+'doi').val(data.doi);
}
} else if (type === 'isbn') {
$('.'+cl+'publisher').val(data.publisher);
$('.'+cl+'location').val(data.location);
$('.'+cl+'edition').val(data.edition);
} else if (type === 'url') {
$('.'+cl+'journal').val(data.journal);
$('.'+cl+'volume').val(data.volume);
$('.'+cl+'issue').val(data.issue);
$('.'+cl+'pages').val(data.pages);
$('.'+cl+'publisher').val(data.publisher);
$('.'+cl+'edition').val(data.edition);
$('.'+cl+'isbn').val(data.isbn);
$('.'+cl+'issn').val(data.issn);
$('.'+cl+'doi').val(data.doi);
// "en-US" isn't a valid value for the language parameter
if (data.language && data.language !== 'en-US' && data.language !== 'en-GB') {
$('.'+cl+'language').val(data.language);
}
$('.'+cl+'chapter').val(data.chapter);
}
};
In the last couple of weeks, I think, Reftoolbar has started to format most but not all of my dates (ref date and access-date) as "2021-06-02" rather than "2 June 2021". Is there a setting I can tweak to get back to using my preferred date format? It's tedious having to correct it every time, and this is new. Pam D 07:21, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
{{
use dmy dates}}
or {{
use mdy dates}}
at the top of the article so that all cs1|2 templates in that article will render dates (those that our readers see) in the chosen format regardless of how the date is set in the RefToolbar date fields.
User:Ohconfucius/script/MOSNUM dates can be used to normalize an article's dates to a common format in the wikitext.{{
use dmy dates}}
to the top of an article. –
Jonesey95 (
talk)
15:43, 4 June 2021 (UTC)Yes, this was my mistake. Sorry it took so long to respond... I've enabled email notifs now. Fixed in this diff: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=MediaWiki%3ARefToolbar.js&type=revision&diff=1031408439&oldid=1023982855 Mvolz (WMF) ( talk) 12:52, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
When using autofill, if there is more than 1 author, new entries get added for the additional authors. For instance, if there are 4 authors, the first entry gets the first author's information, and 3 new entries get added for the remaining 3 authors. However, if the autofill button is clicked a second time, blank entries are added that never get used (the first entries still get replaced as expected). This happens if you autofill with the same field multiple times, or if you try to autofill with multiple fields (I initially ran into this when first auto-filling with a DOI (10.1016/s0042-6989(03)00121-4) and then with a PMID (12742109)). These blank entries don't end up in the generated citation, which is good, but it's still odd behavior. -- Pokechu22 ( talk) 03:47, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Would it be possible to add a tickbox to RefToolbar (or just it's 'journal citation' section) to mark references as being open access? Scientific articles mostly use academic journals as references and >90% of these are pay-walled, however many editors focus on finding the 10% which are Open Access. Papers which are open access are clearly shown as such on the publisher website - so we know what we're adding. Template:Cite journal includes parameters for displaying a reference as being open access, so hopefully adding this feature should be easy (?). Currently you either have to add |doi-access=free manually (few editors do this) or run 'Citation bot' (resource heavy). -- Project Osprey ( talk) 09:55, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
If I try to use the autofill option from any of the templates I end up at a broken tab, and have to back out of editting. I believe it only happens if the result was successful, as entering something deliberately designed to fail doesn't reproduce the same result. I'm using Chrome on Android while using the desktop site, if any of that is relevant. Has something changed recently? LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆ transmission∆ ° co-ords° 20:24, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
Is there a way to use mdy
format when automatically inserting dates, or at least an option/button to format default dmy
to mdy
and vice versa? It is very tedious to manually change the date from the defualt dmy
to mdy
each time a new reference is added. —
Sanglahi86 (
talk)
11:18, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
{{
use mdy dates}}
, the cs1|2 template created by RefToolbar will render dates in mdy format. If you must have the wikitext dates all-in-one-format then there is a
user script that will do that for you.Is it just me or do the actual fields not show up when using Microsoft Edge? Maybe I'm being dumb or something but when I open cite, and select any one of the templates, it's the actual parameters to fill in are blank. -- Tærkast ( Discuss) 17:52, 10 April 2022 (UTC) -- Tærkast ( Discuss) 14:37, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpiRWKRn1tE has ,"dateText":{"simpleText":"Jun 1, 2022"}}},
using source code editor citation template please parse for :
<ref>{{cite web ... |date=Jun 1, 2022}}</ref> .... 0mtwb9gd5wx ( talk) 04:06, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Template:Cite book has an "OCLC" parameter that mimics the functionality of Template:OCLC, adding a link to Worldcat. Would it be possible to add this parameter to the "Extra fields" section of the {{cite book}} menu in the toolbar? Right now I have to go back and add the parameter by hand after closing the toolbar. OCLC is very useful for citing books from before 1967, since OCLC numbers have been retroactively assigned to these books but ISBNs haven't. Thanks! blameless 02:21, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
Hi, I've had a user report to me that when using RefToolbar to cite
https://www.ptv.vic.gov.au/route/timetable/11/pakenham/ the autofill from URL is coming up with |last1=Victoria
|first1=Public Transport
, which is a fault by the CS1 guidance. I've confirmed the behaviour with that URL myself. Is this a flaw in the toolbar or something to do with how the website is configured? Thanks.
XAM2175
(T)
12:17, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
Is there any way to use the RefToolbar tool to load refs already on the page, for editing. Rob Kam ( talk) 14:42, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
See
Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Automatic citations based on ISBN are broken. Nothing happens when you click the autofill icon. I suggest we let users know. Remove the icon if possible. If cite-isbn-tooltip
is supported in
MediaWiki:RefToolbarMessages-en.js then create a message with something like "The ISBN autofill feature is currently unavailable for technical reasons". Othwerwise add something briefer like "(no autofill)" to cite-isbn-label
. The purpose is to avoid users wasting time trying to get it to work or report it's broken.
PrimeHunter (
talk)
14:30, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
Unable to create citation on en & te wiki for http website. If i visit website on browser, shows error Secure site not available. Is this limitation? రుద్రుడు చెచ్క్వికి ( talk) 13:55, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
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The autoMsg function in the WikiEditor extension, which is used by this script, is about to be deprecated. In order for this script to stay up-to-date, please replace the content of MediaWiki:RefToolbar.js with what I put in phab:P49563. Feel free to preview the diff to see what is changed. Jon Harald Søby ( talk) 09:16, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for this extremely useful tool, which makes editing much easier for me.
I'm wondering whether it might be possible to add a checkmark so that the user can choose whether the outputted citation will be surrounded by <ref>...</ref>
tags or not. This would be useful when using the tool to fill out the bibliography/further reading sections of articles; it is a mild pain when entering large numbers of new books/articles to manually delete the ref tags from each one.
Furius (
talk)
14:13, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
I've been fixing citations in
Category:CS1 maintenance, and I found that in citations that seem to have been inserted using autofill from a URL, the name of the publication is often appended to the title. Sometimes it turns out that the page has both a <title>
tag and a title <meta>
tag, and the <meta>
tag contains the actual title whereas the <title>
tag has the name of the publication appended. For instance,
this page has <meta name="title" content="Saatchi & Saatchi AWARDED at CANNES" />
and <title>Saatchi & Saatchi AWARDED at CANNES | Scoop News</title>
. The autofill uses the <title>
tag, resulting in titles that need to be truncated by hand.
So I think the autofill should compare the contents of the two tags, and if one of them is a prefix of the other it should use the shorter one. I tried looking into this myself, but after finding my way from MediaWiki:RefToolbar.js to reftoolbar at toolforge to Citoid I gave up trying to find the code that actually does this. Perhaps someone more familiar with the code could do this, or tell me where to find it. Joriki ( talk) 09:56, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
The Call graph is outdated. It says "as of 30 April 2014", and the tools have moved to toolforge.org in the meantime. I'm not familiar enough with the code to update it reliably, but if someone tells me what to change I'd be happy to do the graphics. Joriki ( talk) 10:00, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
The preview in this tool shows dates in a different format than they end up appearing in the article. As far as I can tell, what happens is: In the "Wikitext" preview, the date is displayed as entered; in the "Parsed wikitext" preview, the date is formatted according to the article's preferred style (as specified e.g. by {{ Use dmy dates}}); the wikitext is inserted into the article as previewed; but the article isn't automatically displayed with dates formatted in its preferred style.
This is confusing. It's a nice feature that the date automatically appears appropriately formated in the preview; but if that doesn't also happen when the article is displayed, it just gives the editor the wrong impression that the date format will be automatically handled, so they don't have to worry about it, when it actually isn't. Joriki ( talk) 18:41, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
see https://reftoolbar.toolforge.org/lookup.php?doi=10.2305/IUCN.UK.2019-3.RLTS.T8789A17963505.en&template=journal Shizhao ( talk) 02:34, 13 September 2023 (UTC)