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Mjroots (
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06:52, 29 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Is there any guidance about whether "station" in this context means "depot", as in "building" or can it mean "place on a timetable where the train stopped" as in a location, not necessarily with an existing building? Thank you!
Valfontis (
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04:20, 23 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Thanks! So former stations would be the same thing? A place named on the timetable where the train once stopped? I ask because the category people didn't like a similar category I created years ago that was similar and I had trouble explaining that "station" does not equal "depot". Could you define "infrastructure" in this context? For former stops it's hard to prove they had any. Maybe a train orders office, or a siding, but what if there's pretty much nothing there? I assume there would have been a sign.
Valfontis (
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04:09, 24 June 2024 (UTC)reply
If the question is specifically for former stations, the list/category must define whether these are included. I would say whether anything from the former station still exists is irrelevant, what is relevant is whether at any time moment the object was defined as a station (and sources can demonstrate this).
Ymblanter (
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05:44, 24 June 2024 (UTC)reply
The word "depot" has
WP:ENGVAR issues. The U.S. meaning seems to be a small passenger station; there are two British meanings: one is a goods-only station (these range in size from the huge Somers Town goods depot in London down to some that consisted of one or two sidings plus an office), the other is a maintenance facility for locomotives and coaches. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
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17:26, 24 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Thanks @Ymblanter and @Redrose64. Yup, I'm in the U.S. I've noticed that people who aren't into trains just assume if you say "station" that this means there was a structure with a sign on it with the name of the place that acted as a waiting room. The categories I was looking at didn't have any usage notes so I wondered if there had been a centralized discussion anywhere. I personally think station means "place where the train stops/stopped". Full stop, haha.
Valfontis (
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20:28, 25 June 2024 (UTC)reply
This whole discussion does pose some questions. FWIW, "freight depot" is also a common term for a railroad freight house in the United States (e.x.
this freight depot in Connecticut). Perhaps the resolution here is to split this into "railway passenger stations" and "railway freight stations", though I have a sneaking suspicion we have many times more articles on passenger stations than freight ones (let's put it this way, I have both the only GA and the only FA on a rail yard/freight facility in all of Wikipedia last I checked, while there's at least 200 passenger stations at GA status).
Trainsandotherthings (
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22:36, 25 June 2024 (UTC)reply
I think that's overcategorization, honestly. And the defunct ones would take some research. The line I am thinking of stopped passenger service in 1960, and all service in the 1970s. I have no idea if they let passengers get off at every station. Just for context, in the American West, there are thousands of places that only have a name because there was a railway station there. Often a larger area is referred to by the name of the station, or an actual town will grow up around the station, but for
WP:GEOLAND purposes, being a mere station is not enough. I put a former station cat on a redirect but I wanted to see if my usage was correct. (An AfD determined the place wasn't really a place per
WP:GEOLAND. Fair enough, but it was a station.)
Valfontis (
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22:02, 26 June 2024 (UTC)reply