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In the currently sourced article for the DYK
(1) and other interviews such as
(2), they continuously emphasize that they had to turn up their volume to hear it and the riff being in the fade-out. I agree that it doesn't sound that quiet, but when combined with their phrasing in multiple places, it seems low enough to warrant the label.
Koopastar (
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05:39, 6 July 2024 (UTC)reply
I’m not sure what you mean by “like completely independent”. You can check out WhoSampled for a vast database of sampling in music. ꧁Zanahary꧂22:22, 6 July 2024 (UTC)reply
At the time of moving from the approved area to the prep area I just thought the hook was interesting. If others do not, I'll make note of that. I'm new to helping out at DYK so I'll adjust appropriately based on feedback.
Hey man im josh (
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11:40, 6 July 2024 (UTC)reply
An IP user (geolocated in Croatia) has argued on the talk page that "waves of Vis" should be corrected to "bay of Vis". I suspect this may be a regional difference (standard Croatian would be "uvala"); unless this is particularly poetic language, I think this may be a more faithful translation.
ThaesOfereode (
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18:08, 6 July 2024 (UTC)reply
Ah, I didn't realize they were user-generated. I think I misunderstood what Leek was saying was wrong, I should really not comment without coffee. ♠
PMC♠
(talk)12:57, 6 July 2024 (UTC)reply
Huh?
HPRC is the Hiroshima Prefecture Roads Public Corporation, the government-owned entity which operates the road and just about the most reliable source you could get.
Jpatokal (
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09:08, 6 July 2024 (UTC)reply
Notice to administrators: When fixing POTD errors, please update the corresponding regular version (i.e. without "protected" in the page title) in addition to the Main Page version linked below.
No idea, but if you look through
the "archive" for future dates, there are probably some others that could be brought forward to fill gaps. :Jay8g [
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PFHLai -- that one was scheduled for
Template:POTD/2026-12-14 for some reason. Since it will be rolling onto the main page any time now, no need to change it, but the template that's scheduled for 2.5 years in the future should probably be deleted to avoid accidentally running the same picture twice. :Jay8g [
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Thanks all for handling this. Apologies, normally I handled the POTD stuff, as there was a dearth of people doing it a couple of years ago. But I've been busy all week and then away this weekend, so lost sight of this one. I'll start filling future dates again from tomorrow. Cheers —
Amakuru (
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23:44, 6 July 2024 (UTC)reply
@
Amakuru, thanks for all of your work -- it looks like you're pretty much the only one helping with POTD on a regular basis. I see that @
Secretlondon scheduled a picture of
Nikola Tesla for tomorrow, which is just a couple days before his birthday on July 10th -- any chance of moving that photo to the 10th and finding something else for the 8th? Maybe one of the non-specific date pictures from the next couple months could be moved to the 8th? I don't want to create more work for everyone, however. :Jay8g [
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Would most people be willing to entertain a weekly
article for improvement on the main page? Several kinks must be worked out, but I think it would be a great idea (well duh, I'm the guy bringing it up...)
Bremps...03:46, 1 July 2024 (UTC)reply
There was a "Today's Article for Improvement" section added to the main page for a few weeks in 2013. It didn't last long and was pulled in May 2013. The subsequent discussion
is here.
Stephen07:41, 1 July 2024 (UTC)reply
We have long-established processes of dealing with vandalism, like
WP:SEMI. Therefore, I don't think that this worry should stop us. And if it were a real concern, why would the same not also apply to the rest of the main page? Schwede6600:59, 4 July 2024 (UTC)reply
Right, but the distinction is we're explicitly (or nearly so) asking people to come help out. If we do that and they can't, that would look a bit silly.
Remsense诉09:38, 5 July 2024 (UTC)reply
I think this could work out if we're clever; I'll offer the following points:
Maybe the pool should be restricted to
Vital articles or some other deliberately collated set: articles should be prioritized that people are likely to feel are both important, and that they might already feel they can help with.
We should absolutely go out of our way to grease the wheels with the articles: perhaps a AFI coordinator who volunteers their particular attention to editors engaging with them? Definitely helpful and specific maintenance tags and banners, and maybe even a short write-up on each talk page providing concrete ideas for every level of improvement.
I actually think leaning towards thematically relevant articles would be huge for engagement. If we did this yesterday, we should've had
John F. Kennedy up there.
Another idea I perennially tinker with, though it's tangential, basically amounts to "organized gnoming drives"? We pick a few concrete but discretizable tasks for some set of articles: my favorite is Copyedit the lead of every Vital Level-2 article. I think it'll attract a different crowd than existing drives do because it's communal and we can have a fun progress bar that fills up for each task.
Remsense诉14:04, 5 July 2024 (UTC)reply
I think it would be a great idea. Encourages contribution because it appears on the main page, i.e. visibility!
SWinxy (
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04:56, 4 July 2024 (UTC)reply
Support in principle. I suppose the caveat is that we expect everything on the Main Page to be "presentable", so there would have to be a good vetting process to make sure that the articles were fine enough to put in front of non-Wikipedians while also weak enough to justify asking for help with them. UndercoverClassicistT·
C09:28, 5 July 2024 (UTC)reply
Oppose, a direct link to an article without any comment on what is wrong with it is unlikely to help much (and seemed not to attract many edits in the examples given by Andrew). I am happy for us to have a flashing "Get involved!" section of the Main Page to attract people into editing (for example, we could make the Community Portal more prominent), but just a few links to articles in need of improvements will not do that. Random drive-by newbies usually "help" by overlinking, removing valid redlinks or by violating ENGVAR; if we want actual improvement from people who are not already Wikipedians, we need to do more than just say "hey, edit this article". If we want Wikipedians to help, perhaps the Main Page isn't the greatest place for this. —
Kusma (
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10:18, 5 July 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment this went very badly in 2013, so what makes you think it would work now? How would it be organised, where would it go on the Main Page etc.? Why weekly? There's far too little information to make an informed !vote.
Modest Geniustalk13:21, 5 July 2024 (UTC)reply
Support in principle, I've always supported this and I brought up shutting down AFI a couple years ago
here in village pump because of its inactivity, and I don't think they've made any more progress up bringing it back since then. I think this would be a nice way to help bring back AFI.
Lallint00:56, 6 July 2024 (UTC)reply
Oppose. That's one of the intended functions of the DYK section, though it's been a bit obscured by the incorporation of new GAs with the new articles and new expansions. Unless specifically protected, nothing linked from the Main Page is excluded from editing—I've made copyedit and clarificatory changes to TFA a couple of times, some of them are a bit dusty when they run—but the new articles at DYK are particularly an invitation to tweakage, intentionally so.
Yngvadottir (
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21:51, 6 July 2024 (UTC)reply
I would go farther to say it is not really communicated at all to the average reader that they are encouraged to any special extent to help out with the articles listed at DYK.
Remsense诉23:30, 6 July 2024 (UTC)reply
Oppose I 've been as critical as anyone of the WMF's various projects that have been imposed on us, but
newcomer tasks actually seems to work, I've seen newbies pop up on obscure articles within hours of them being tagged for various issues. I think this is a better tool than inviting the whole world to focus on one crappy article. Perhaps we should add links to that on the main page?
Just Step Sidewaysfrom this world ..... today22:33, 6 July 2024 (UTC)reply
I think putting newcomer tasks on the main page would risk splitting focus from the personal newcomer home pages. The WMF growth team has been investing effort into making them the starting point for newcomers, so I'd prefer to get more new users looking at their home page than the main page for suggestions on what to do.
isaacl (
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23:15, 6 July 2024 (UTC)reply
One distinction I'd make clear is: I don't think this only has to be something meant for new editors. I for one would be interested in a daily list of pages that I may find engaging to hop into collaborating with others on.
Remsense诉23:33, 6 July 2024 (UTC)reply