Run for coverMissing in action. "Please look after this fox. Thank you." Property of missing Wikipedian
FireFox
We have a stressed and out of his mind Wikipedian
FireFox who has just left without notice! I need a volunteer to take care of his fox for now. Thank you for your cooperation.--
EdtalkcE22:35, 16 August 2006 (UTC)reply
This is just in my opinion, but I think he probably doesn't mean it when he says "I am leaving". He probably needs time to devandalise his user page, or takes short wikibreaks of 1-2 weeks.
The Updater Stubmechanic
11:06, 19 September 2006 (UTC)reply
Well, uh...I'm new.
The little welcome template thingy says to say hi (and thank you, by the way, for welcoming me so kindly and promptly, I was very flattered)....anyway, hi. I'm Keakealani, you can call me Kea, or Keakea, or Keaks, if you want...I'm from Hawaii. More about me on my user page...otherwise, it's nice to be here. I always look for groups like this wherever I go, some place that's dedicated simply to being nice to other people, since that's my real skill (although I can get nasty when I'm mad, but I'll keep that offline, usually). Anyway, I'm rambling terribly, but...hello! —
Keakealani•
talk•
contribs•05:40, 20 August 2006 (UTC)reply
It's very nice to meet you, Kea! We're glad to have you here at Esperanza, and it will be great to spread some niceness throughout Wikipedia with you. :) --
Natalya05:56, 20 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Thank you ^_^ I recognise your name from around, as well. I'll probably be a ninja editor working on cleanup and help-y type stuff, but I don't know what path life will take me =P Anyway, thank you for the kind welcome! —
Keakealani•
talk•
contribs•06:25, 20 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Hi there, I have my name on the join up list for people who don't meet the requirements yet. Just wondering, do you need to have roughly 150 main edits or just 150 edits in total? Please help, I want to join soon! ps. I have 95 main edits and roughly 325 total edits. Thanks,
Jam0105:53, 22 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Well, depends. If you have 150 edits to your userpage or something like that, then chances are it really isn't that great. But I took a quick look at you contribs and they look fine. I see you've welcomed a lot of people, and that's a good sign for an Esperaznan. So I'd say you don't have anything to worry about :)
Ungovernable ForceThe Wiki Kitchen!06:17, 22 August 2006 (UTC)reply
The two straw polls at the
Governance page have concluded, and both amendements have been accepted. The changes have been made to the
Charter, the diffs of which you can see
here. Many thanks to everyone who expressed their feelings on this. --
Natalya19:31, 22 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Welcome to everyone who is new to Wikipedia and/or Esperanza!!! Please feel free to make yourself at home:D Thank you.--Chili1400:39, 24 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Greetings again, and many thanks! Funny story: I finally got around to welcoming some new people, and when checking my watchlist about an hour later I found that an anonymous IP had edited my message on one user's page
like so. Thankfully it was reverted very quickly by
Charlesknight! And I am working on my own message to send people, because I don't like being so impersonal just adding someone else's template and signing it. I hope I have lots of time tomorrow... — Editor at Large (
talk)
23:46, 27 August 2006 (UTC)reply
I was just adding my name to members who wanted to join Esperanza and I was looking at the list of members, and I think the active/inactive/former/ lists need to updated. Any suggestions as to how to go about updating this? — The Future23:00, 30 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Being rather un-technilogically minded, the only way I can think of is to go through it manually, since there isn't really one source that says if someone has left Wikipedia or been indef blocked or something. --
Natalya15:48, 31 August 2006 (UTC)reply
No bot like that exists that I know of except the Rick Block admin update script he runs to check status' of admins, but that would take a lot more time to figure out than to manually check it, I think.. — The Future21:47, 31 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Carcharoth responded "Actual discussion, including moving stuff to the talk page to discuss it, trumps 3RR and Being Bold everytime, IMO."
My take on this is that what
Carcharoth wrote sounds good but isn't true.
Here's what I wrote:
I disagree with
Carcharoth's assertion that 3RR does not apply if there is discussion. If you get to the third contentious edit on anything, you should stop and take a breather. Discussion doesn't mean "I reverted your edit and here's why". Discussion means "I think your edit should be reverted and here's why".
Yes, I know this is really hard to do when there's an egregiously bad piece of text in article mainspace. You have to use your judgment. If the text says "John Seigenthaler was suspected of..." then you have to take it out and rely on the "gross violation of policy" defense. If, on the other hand, it's just a POV rant, then it's probably better to let it stand after your second attempt and let another editor step in. If this doesn't prevent an edit war, then issue an RFC and go through
the dispute resolution process. Consider this (proposed) guideline: Other than slander, libel, copyright violations and incivility in the article itself, the biggest sin on Wikipedia is edit-warring. Avoid it at all costs. --
Richard19:36, 1 September 2006 (UTC)reply
Some context for what I wrote... Some of you may remember that a few weeks ago, I wrote a message saying that I needed help because I was in the midst of a budding edit war with an anonymous editor who was putting in poorly written POV text. I had reached the 3RR limit and wanted to find a way to maintain Wikipedia quality without getting into an edit war and violating 3RR.
I came here and the response I got was two-fold: (1) Esperanza doesn't take sides in disuptes and (2) take a breather. Both of these comments, while frustrating at the time, turned out to be pretty good advice.
I found a sort of compromise with the anon that made him happier than it made me and the next morning another editor reverted the whole thing. The anon never came back so peace reigns in that corner of the Wikipedia universe.
Anyway, I have come to conclude that except for a few really egregious violations, the cardinal sin on Wikipedia is edit-warring.
Hola! Mi nombre es Chris, o Umdunno. This looked like the sort of group I would like to join as a Wikipedian, considering how much I believe in WikiLove as a concept (and how much I hate inter-Wikipedian fighting). So...good to be here! -
Umdunno23:52, 1 September 2006 (UTC)reply
I don't speak much Spanish, but I actually understood what you said! I won't try and reply in Spanish, but we're glad to have you here! --
Natalya01:26, 2 September 2006 (UTC)reply
Hola! Me llamo Ed. Soy de Estados Unidos. Y tu? It is such a pleasant to meet you. Fortunately, I'm taking Spanish classes in my high school!--
EdtalkcE01:29, 2 September 2006 (UTC)reply
I don't think English classes would be a bad thing either, Ed ;-) (a pleasant to meet you) Y Chris, ¿contribuyes al Wikipedia español? No contribuyo porqué es más pequeño que esta Wikipedia y puedo contribuir solamente con un nivel intermedio de español. ¡Hasta luego! :-) —Mets501 (
talk)01:53, 2 September 2006 (UTC)reply
Are you insulting my English??? Must I tell you that I live in the US? And good for you, you speak intermediate Spanish. And me, I'm just a beginner =(--
EdtalkcE01:56, 2 September 2006 (UTC)reply
I'm just teasing you :-) You're younger than me (I think - considering you're a freshman and I'm a junior) anyway. Everyone makes mistakes :-) —Mets501 (
talk)02:12, 2 September 2006 (UTC)reply
¡Hola! Tengo una calificación en español, así mi español es intermedio. Me encanta hablar en español - es una lengua muy bonita. ¿Lo pienses? ¡Buenas mañanas y gracias!
87.113.21.17408:56, 2 September 2006 (UTC)reply
Estoy de acuerdo. Me gusta hablar en español también. Aquí, en Nueva York, hay muchos signos en español, y hay mucha gente que habla español, así que puedo utilizar mi español mucho. :) —Mets501 (
talk)14:14, 2 September 2006 (UTC)reply
No contribuyo al Wikipedia Espanol. Actualmente, no soy del mundo hispanohablante. Soy de los Estados Unidos, y soy italiano. Pero, mis primas viven en Espana. Either way, I appreciate everyone making the best effort of their Spanish. A good refresher for my Spanish III Accelerated class! -
Umdunno16:59, 2 September 2006 (UTC)reply
Would Esperanza be useful in helping me find Wikipedians to collaborate with on articles?
A couple of weeks ago, after a conflict with an anonymous user, I declared my Wikilife to be in a state of
crisis.
Natalya left an encouraging note on
my talk page. One of my problems was that I was facing difficulty finding Wikipedians to collaborate on articles. She suggested I join Esperanza as they could help me find Wikipedians to collaborate with.
My goal on Wikipedia is to contribute information to articles on my interests, and to make Wikifriends who share my interests. Therefore, I envisioned a system of collaboration. For example, let's say I wanted to make
RuneScape a
good article. I find three or four other editors who play RuneScape and wish to collaborate with me. We then work on the article: adding content and images, identifying and fixing problems, and ensuring the article meets Good Article criteria. Eventually we will send the article for peer review and nominate it for Good Article. While we discuss on the talk page about how to improve the article, we are likely to get to know each other and become Wikifriends.
Unfortunately, I have not been successful in finding Wikipedians to collaborate with. This, coupled with several other issues, including anonymous vandals and a dispute over the
Homerun redirect, has caused me stress. Natalya has touted Esperanza as a way to find Wikipedians to collaborate with. Therefore, I wish to ask whether Esperanza would really be helpful in helping me find Wikipedians to collaborate with. Currently, Esperanza seems like a community of Wikipedians who send well-wishes to those who are stressed.
My interests include computers/websites and Singapore TV shows/movies. I have a to-do list on
my userpage which you should consider checking out. If you are interested in collaborating with me on any of the articles listed there, please drop a note on
my talk page.
Maybe there's people at WikiProject Television (or Film) who focus on Singapore. But if you want to start a wikiproject, I recommend just doing it. (I did that with
WikiProject Figure Skating - there's no acceptance process; you just do it.) There seems to be a significant community of Singaporeans on en.wp, and I'd bet that if you started a wikiproject you'd get quite a few members, even if support seemed lackluster at
Wikipedia:SGpedians' notice board. In fact I'm quite surpised one doesn't exist already. --
Fang Ailitalk13:44, 3 September 2006 (UTC)reply
I echo Fang Aili's suggestions about just starting the Wikiproject. People are often reluctant to start something on their own, or help to organize it, but once something has been established, they could be a lot more likely to join it and help out. --
Natalya00:37, 7 September 2006 (UTC)reply
I think
Wikipedia:Facebook is a great initative; it adds alot to the spirit of the community to actually see who it is you are talking to and working with. I think it would be great if more people contributed to it, there is hardly any! Have a look and see for yourself.
Dfrg.msc1 .
2 .
308:40, 4 September 2006 (UTC)reply
I agree with you very much. I do not want to put my real face on Wikipedia because of what will happen to me when certain people find out, but I am searching for a creative way to illustrate myself to the Wikipedia community. I wish everybody knew about it!--Chili1400:43, 5 September 2006 (UTC)reply
I know I'm kinda new to Esperanza and stuff but school's getting pretty stressful and I'd like to say thanks to all here who've been so kind, but I can't devote my time to Wikipedia like I have this summer, but I think I'll sneak in some wikitime ^_^. I just wanna thank everyone here at Esperanza! --Sergiusz Szczebrzeszyński|talk to me||what i've done||e|00:04, 6 September 2006 (UTC)reply
No need to thank any of us. We've really enjoyed having you around, and talking with you. I'm sorry to hear that school's so stressfull, but glad that you might be able to sneak on now and then ;) I hope things get less stressful soon, and you can come back on. Best of luck until then.
Thε HaloΘ10:40, 6 September 2006 (UTC)reply
deleted Image:Friendship_is_a.jpg which seems to criticise EA as a dead end friendship
I have deleted from the main Esperanza page the image Image:Friendship_is_a.jpg (available from Wikimedia Commons) which in my interpretation seemed to criticise Esperanza as a dead end friendship. If anyone disagrees with this, please discuss the appropriateness of the image. Thank you. --
Tachikoma 02:06, 6 September 2006
After thinking about it, I suppose that
User:Gmaxwell may have intended to suggest that friendship in of itself is the end or destination. I hope he will understand that the image that he had inserted is open to interpretation and may not say to all users what he meant. I also hope he will understand if I suggest that the image not be reinserted on the page, precisely due to this risk of misinterpretation. Please don't feel offended, it's nothing personal. This message has been copied onto the
user's talk page as well. Sorry for the trouble. --
Tachikoma02:21, 6 September 2006 (UTC)reply
I wanted to add that I'm sorry if I misjudged this user. To quote from one of my favorite
TV shows, "occasionally, I can be callous and strange." Again, sorry. --
Tachikoma02:40, 6 September 2006 (UTC)reply
Oh thank you for your kind response. Actually, I was aware of the double meaning when I put it up. I wanted to see what others would think about it. I don't object to it coming down, although it is an interesting picture. Thank you for your consideration. --
Gmaxwell02:43, 6 September 2006 (UTC)reply
I'll reply here, since that's what you have done. Now I feel really bad about jumping to conclusions about your intentions. I'm truly sorry. --
Tachikoma02:56, 6 September 2006 (UTC)reply
Yo, What's Up?
Hi. I was told to introduce myself at the talk page, so here I am. Some of you already know me from the Coffee Lounge though.
Eilicea15:00, 6 September 2006 (UTC)reply
Hi there! I'm one of the people who don't know you from the Coffee Lounge, so it's great to meet you! I know you've already got a welcome on your talk page, but, hey, I might as well say it here too: A very big, warm welcome to Esperanza. I really hope you like it here :)
Thε HaloΘ15:04, 6 September 2006 (UTC)reply
Certainly do ;) Go
here, go down the page until you find the banner section, choose the one you like best, and then copy and paste it to your page. There's also some userboxes there, if you're interested :)
Thε HaloΘ15:11, 6 September 2006 (UTC)reply
In time to run the September elections (terms end on the 30th); as always, advance notice will be given to everyone if you have something that would like to be brought up. --
Natalya00:33, 7 September 2006 (UTC)reply
I be new!
Hey there! I've become fairly addicted to Wikipedia recently, so I thought I'd join Esperanza and see what it's like. Thanks to
Sasuke-kun27 for the welcome, by the way!
So, I might as well introduce myself a bit. I'm a 19-year-old
Computer Science student from
Ireland. I've been obsessed with
computers ever since I was a kid, and I can't survive a single day without banging my head to some
heavymetal. I also like
pizza. Mmmhmm; lovely stuff.
I know this isn't exactly related to the mission of Esperanza but I just had to share this with someone.
So... I was using the Lupin filter of recent changes to do some RC Patrulling. Up comes this article
Poutine which matches the keyword "poo" (used in providing the pronuncination of this French word). I figure "OK, that's a reasonable use of the syllable but, hey, what's this article about? Is it a hoax? I mean food that looks like poo and has a name that sounds like poo? Come on. This can't be for real." So, I read the article and was pretty suspicious until I saw
the CBC link. Ya know, this might actually be legit. Anytime somebody makes fun of our American low-brow culture, I'm gonna reference this bit of Canajun culture.
P.S. If this does turn out to be a hoax, I'm gonna be SOOOO embarassed.
Haha. There is such a thing as poutine, it doesn't taste very good, and it is pronounced as "poo", I guess just because the French (Canadians) are silly :P ~
Booya Bazooka07:35, 7 September 2006 (UTC)reply
Yes poutine does in fact exist in real life. It's actually one of my favorite foods. French fries+Gravey+Cheese Curds=delicious. You mostly find it in eastern Canada, probably not any farther west than Toronto except at Ski Resorts. Nearly every ski resort in Canada or the US will probably serve poutine on their cafeteria menu, and it's worth trying. Yum.
Canadian-Bacontce17:03, 13 September 2006 (UTC)reply
There is no Cabal. No, seriously. Really. Not kidding. What? You don't believe me? Why not. I'm serious. No Cabal. None. I promise. Absolutely. No, I'm not holding anything behind my back ... -
CheNuevara01:05, 14 September 2006 (UTC)reply
I'm new to Esperanza.
Hi. I'm suit-n-tie. I edit on wikipedia and I joined Esperanza tonight. You can know more about me on my page.--
suit-n-tie
Hi. I saw a couple of memers on this group, but I hadn't joined till after today when I gave an
admin a barnstar for humor and saw that he was also a member of Esperanza. You can find me on the IRC server, as I have allready joined (I go AFK alot so just say my name or PM me and I will reply). And thank you to Sasuke-kun for the welcome message.
DemosDemon20:59, 9 September 2006 (UTC)reply
But I created a subpage at
User:Umdunno/Esperanza, but I can't seem to change my "o" green to link it up. I tried following the instructions, and since I couldn't find a "Nickname" section, I copy/pasted to the "signature" section, except that left me posting the letter "o" as a signature. Que es la problema? -
Umdunno21:49, 9 September 2006 (UTC)reply
I thought it was about time I actually joined in with the community after spending a few weeks committing random acts of editing. My first day as an Esperanzan (is that a real word? I suppose it is now) seems to have mostly involved reverting other people's edits and playing with userboxes, which seems like a potentially rather inauspicious start. I'll try harder. Hopefully.
You know, there was this disscussion in the coffee lougne not long back, and it was decided that both was okay :) And don't worry about discord Chris, we're just gald to have you here :)
Thε HaloΘ13:32, 10 September 2006 (UTC)reply
HAH! Have to change something when there's a mistake... that's what's good about wikipedia. So is it with an I or not... now I'm confused...
DemosDemon22:32, 10 September 2006 (UTC)reply
For those of you who haven't been watching the page, the
Esperanza front page redesign has pretty much finished! Everyone is invited to take a look at the final design; if there are no issues found, it will go live in a day or two. Lots of people have put lots of hard work into it, so be sure to take a look! --
Natalya14:36, 12 September 2006 (UTC)reply
I'd also like to say that we need as much constructive criticism as possible. Everything can be tweaked if people feel there is a problem. Our visual goals were to make the page less cluttered, more clean, and easier to navigate. Our content goals were to get directly to the point and better describe what Esperanza is (less stuff that some people consider "wishy-washy," more stuff about what we actually do). Let us know either on the page linked above or in this thread here whether we've accomplished that, and if there is anything visually or content-wise that you would change.
EWS23 (
Leave me a message!)
16:40, 12 September 2006 (UTC)reply
I for one like it. It looks a lot more professional then the previous page and seems a lot more navigable and less cluttered. Using the day by day calender looks a lot cleaner than having the whole month up. The projects listing at the bottom is very clean as well. I don't really have much criticism to give, it's Very well done.
Canadian-Bacontce17:30, 12 September 2006 (UTC)reply
A month and a day late Esperanza anniversary
Thanks to the good memories of
Ed, and
NoSeptember, it was discovered that Esperanza's one-year anniversary was on August 12th. It wasn't realized until a couple days ago, so I thought we could at least celebrate a month late, and recognize it on the 12th of September. But of course, with how well I manage to do with time zones, it turns out that with UTC, it's now actually the 13th of September. But regardless, I just wanted to wish all of Esperanza a very happy month-and-a-day-late Esperanza birthday! We have done some great things as Esperanzians, and I look forward to it continuing for a long while. Keep it up! --
Natalya01:12, 13 September 2006 (UTC)reply
I don't like the new calendar. If there aren't any anniversaries, why do we have to have the thing say "user" "user" and "user" again? In fact, it might be easier to use an ifexist: thing when it is empty, which it should be if there are no anniversaries. People can follow guidelines if they want to create an appropriate page.
Jfingers
8803:45, 17 September 2006 (UTC)reply
The calendar is meant to be very simple and easy to use. The User was the first thing that I put in when I was reorganizing the calendar. I have sinced changed it to None as per
Celestianpower's suggestion. The goal of the calendar is to have every event covered in the future. There are plenty of users who are not on the calendar, and a project would be to fill it up. I originally added User to make it simple for a future user to add in a name. –
Heaven's Wrath Talk 15:59, 17 September 2006 (UTC)reply
Newcomer: SaturnYoshi
Good day to everyone. I am happy to announce that I too have joined this wonderful commitee known as Esperanza. I would also like to personally thank
Sasuke-kun27 for welcoming me in such a hasty fashion. Let us all strive for excellence!! -
SaturnYoshiTHE VOICES23:34, 16 September 2006 (UTC)reply
The September AC meeting recently finished! A summary of the meeting can be found at the
meeting information page, as well as in the newsletter that will soon go out, but just in case you miss it, here is the gist of things that happened:
The
proposals page has been updated, with some proposals being archived.
Since the program in development
Appreciation week is getting lots of good ideas, it will be having a separate page made for it.
The
September 2006 Council elections will open for nominations on 18 September 2006. The voting will run from 25 September 2006 until 30 September 2006. If you wish to be a candidate or a member of the elections staff, please list yourself!
The new
Esperanza front page design has but put up - many thanks to all who worked on it!
TangoTango has written
a script for a bot that will list new members of Esperanza, which will help those who welcome new Esperanzains greatly!
Most notable on that list is the
September 2006 Council elections! If you wish to be a part of the council, or to help with the election staff, please list yourself at the elections page.
Natalya, you spelled Appreciation wrong. I know I'm not supposed to correct talk comments but what you wrote is like an address to the Esperanza community. I hope you can forgive my in changing the spelling.--
EdtalkcE23:23, 17 September 2006 (UTC)reply
Hi everybody. I am experiencing a problem viewing the new front page. I got a Mozilla 1.7.1 browser and i see nothing but a big green background. Anyone's having the same problem? -- Szvest11:39, 18 September 2006 (UTC)reply
I've put up a temporary fix that incorporates the new material but works in Firefox and IE. I don't want to step on anyone's toes, but I think that a page that is visible to everyone is more important than a page that looks great to some but is unreadable to others. I hope this will serve while we figure out how to fix the other template. --
MeropeTalk22:06, 18 September 2006 (UTC)reply
Hm. I've updated Firefox to 1.5.0.7 and the old version works great. Hmmmm. Maybe we could restore it with a note that says "if it doesn't work, upgrade"? Grrr! --
MeropeTalk22:13, 18 September 2006 (UTC)reply
Yeah, I'm getting those now, too. What up? At any rate, tomorrow I'd like to look at Æon's sandbox version and play around with that, if it's okay. I'm not very good with layouts, but I am pretty decent at catching errors. The hack version I did really shouldn't stay. --
MeropeTalk04:35, 19 September 2006 (UTC)reply
I was going to work on it today, before I remembered that I upgraded my browser here at the office. D'oh! My home computer is still having that problem, so I'll try to check it out there. --
MeropeTalk18:18, 19 September 2006 (UTC)reply
I agree. It's one of the (many) problems with using tables to do a layout, but it's functional. I hope that between Æon and others we can resolve this issue quickly. --
MeropeTalk20:54, 19 September 2006 (UTC)reply
I made a slight switch with the EA Menu and the Calendar (not so much of a blank spot now at least). I know there has to be a way to make them line up correctly I'm just not sure what it is yet.
ÆonInsanity Now!EA!00:50, 20 September 2006 (UTC)reply
We already have a navigation bar of sorts on the Esperanza main page... how about a small navigation bar on the various Esperanza subpages, such as this page, the Coffee Lounge, the Alerts pages, etc.? I know that people can go to the main page and then go to another section of Esperanza, but a navbar on each subpage would save a little time. Any thoughts on this? --
Kyoko13:55, 19 September 2006 (UTC)reply
I realize it isn't exactly what you meant, but I'll mod
Che Nuevara's wiki navbar to include complete ESP navigation; it won't take me very long. A navbar on the page would still be neat, but for those of you using my navbar I think it's a worthwhile addition. -
CheNuevara19:04, 19 September 2006 (UTC)reply
It's up -- just go to the navbar page and follow the "v 1.1E" link up top. As always, feel free to edit the code to include whatever you like, or ask me and I'll make alterations for you. -
CheNuevara19:46, 19 September 2006 (UTC)reply
I just wrote a message to a user suggesting that he could have been kinder to an anonymous editor who was unaware of the
WP:3RR rule by explaining the rule rather than asking for a block when the anon went over the 3RR limit. I suggested that, while users are under no obligation to warn other editors that they are about to violate the 3RR rule, it is a reasonable courtesy to expect.
I suppose this comes under the general rubric of "Don't bite the newbies" but I was wondering if there was a guideline that expressed the sentiment that I'm talking about.
Actually, I think
WP:BITE comes pretty close to what I had in mind. My point was that helping people understand what the rules are is more important than hitting them over the head with the penalty for violating a rule. Combined with
WP:CIVIL,
WP:BITE will do the trick for now. --
Richard19:17, 20 September 2006 (UTC)reply
Here in Esperanza, we're all about relaxation, excitement, happiness, and all that other good stuff we want to promote. The banner looks a little bit..."bland" I should say. Maybe we could try to make a cool Experanzian design for the banner. I would be happy to help you if you need anything. The Strive things a good idea, except it's not...attractive.--
EdtalkcE01:25, 30 August 2006 (UTC)reply
I think it's better to have the 'e' in 'Strive' be green, Because the Esperanza logo is 'green', understand? (How did you make this, Mets501?)--•Sean•gorter•10:06, 12 September 2006 (UTC)reply
I get it - great work sean. It's all good though, I've given both and they could be given depending on the person or the page I suppose.
Dfrg.msc1 .
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301:27, 23 September 2006 (UTC)reply
Did anyone notice that the newsletter had Appreciation spelled wrong? I'm not trying to insult anyone though, just to bring it to the author's attention.--
EdtalkcE02:14, 21 September 2006 (UTC)reply
This would be great! (Appreciation (noun):The state of recognition of excellence; Appreciate (verb, transitive): the act of recognizing excellence or merit; Appreciated (adjective, adverb) the state of being recognized for merit or excellence; Context: English teachers appreciate the correct usage and spelling of "appreciation". Your cooperation of using this sesquipedialian word is greatly appreciated. =) --
EdtalkcE15:46, 24 September 2006 (UTC)reply
On a related note... Why isn't there a newsletter link on the main Esperanza page? I would think potential members would like to read up on what has been happening here, and of course, would not have received a copy.
NoSeptember 20:44, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
Normally there would be a link in the news section (which I will be updating in a couple hours. *slaps hand for not doing it yet*) How about a link to the "Latest newsletter" in the EA Links section? --
Natalya11:21, 25 September 2006 (UTC)reply
Hey all! Joined Esperanza a few days ago and thought I'd drop an "I'm new" on the talk page. Currently I have a
proposal on the table for a signature award. Great stuff going on here! -
Mike14:26, 24 September 2006 (UTC)reply
Haha! Thanks for the welcome. I hope to get pretty involved. You have good taste in web browsers according to your userpage :-) (I know, I'm a totla geek). I can't believe I missed the election voting cut off by one day! Augh! -
Mike02:03, 25 September 2006 (UTC)reply
Opera? Natalya you traitor! ;) —
FireFox(
talk)18:01, 26 September 2006
Hello
Just want to say hi - I'm new, and I was greeted a few minutes after I added my name to the list! I had been on Wikipedia for about one and a half months and had about 140 total edits when I learnt about Esperanza. I added my name to the "user who wanted to join but haven't meet the requirements yet" list. Although I had well above 150 total edits in a day after adding my name, I waited until I had above 150 main edits before I move my name to the "active" list. Hello again to all of you here, and thank you to
User: riana_dzasta for welcoming me soo fast!
JoshuaChiew14:29, 24 September 2006 (UTC)reply
We can certainly try, Maxasus! I'm sorry to hear that you're stressed out; hopefully we can help you to relax and make some constructive edits. Esperanza is about being friendly and creating a community for the editors in Wikipedia, so that we can be surrounded by truly helpful and nice people, and do a better job creating this encyclopedia. Though you'll probably want to be around Wikipedia a little while before officially joining us (take a look at the
membership requirements), if you like what we're about and want to join us, you are welcome to add yourself to the
list of editors who want to join, but don't meet the requirements yet.
As for stress, we have a ton of ways to help combat stress. The
stress alerts page lists editors who, like you, are feeling pretty stressed out, for whatever reason. If you add yourself there, people can see that and drop by your talk page and add a supportive note or a suggestion or just a smile to help you out. We also have a
wide variety of programs that help to strengthen the community and relax people.
I hope this helps - good luck! And if you ever have any questions, just ask; Esperanzians are really nice people, we'll always be glad to help. --
Natalya11:29, 29 September 2006 (UTC)reply
My name is Lucas, AKA PrometheusX303. As you might guess from my username, I'm a fan of Stargate. I joined Wikipedia December 11, '05 after one anonynous edit. I'm a vandal-fighter and use Vandalproof as my main weapon, pop-ups as backup. I believe in calm and peaceful discussions of disputed content.
Prometheus-X303-00:07, 29 September 2006 (UTC)reply
Hello all, I joined Esperanza about a week or two ago, but I never got around to saying hi, so hi! I like greeting new users with a welcome and generally contributing to content in Wikipedia. --
Cielomobiletalk /
contribs02:29, 29 September 2006 (UTC)reply
It is amazing to me how many people fill up this talk page evey time I look at it with how they are new. There is a new one every time I look. This is a very popular page.--Chili1404:08, 29 September 2006 (UTC)reply
Just joined Esperanza. Thanx to
Jaedza for the welcome ! I hope to be active in Esperanza for a long time, and hope my contribution will be a positive one for me and for other members.
Jcam11:25, 29 September 2006 (UTC)reply
If you weren't already aware, the
elections have concluded! If the elections staff could verify all the votes, that would be great, and then we can officially welcome the new Council members. Many thanks to all the candidates and everyone who participated! --
Natalya00:11, 1 October 2006 (UTC)reply
I forgot to mention it, but if whoever on the elections staff goes through the votes could just let us know here when they're done, that would work out nicely. Thanks! --
Natalya17:34, 1 October 2006 (UTC)reply
Lovely! Then I'd like to officially welcome
Celestianpower,
Shreshth91, and
The Halo as the newest council members. Congratulations to everyone who ran in the elections, and thanks to everyone for supporting your fellow Esperanzians!
Since the Admin Gen is re-chosen by the council after every election, we will shortly be taking care of that (by email, since that worked out well last time), and will report as to what has been decided. --
Natalya15:26, 2 October 2006 (UTC)reply
Space on the talk page for introductions
As much as I love hearing from all the new Esperanzians (I'm serious, too! :), the large number of new topics may be making the page rather long rather fast; how do people feel about creating one topic at the top for everyone to introduce themselves? That way, there will not be a whole host of new topics, but new members will still be able to be welcomed here. --
Natalya11:31, 29 September 2006 (UTC)reply
We could do that too, but I imagine it wouldn't be as noticed as if it were on the main talk page (and therefore, people might feel like it was more of an obligation to check it than to see it here on the main page and welcome people). --
Natalya16:19, 29 September 2006 (UTC)reply
We don't want to make it too confusing for new users, and many of the new Esperanzians who come to this page to say hello are also fairly new to Wikipedia. I would simply continue to let them post greetings threads here, but then some of us can archive those threads after about 3 days or so, while letting the threads on other topics for the full length of time. That would shorten the page without confusing any newbies.
NoSeptember 21:35, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
I say that we have a bot that archives our talk pages every 3 days or so. I know that
WP:ANI uses a bot. Maybe we can ask the owner if he/she could program the bot to archive our page as well.--
EdtalkcE22:34, 29 September 2006 (UTC)reply
(unindent)Werdnabot would be great! Once the AC is elected, then they may make that decision. Unless Natalya can make the immediate decision, of course...--
EdtalkcE23:38, 29 September 2006 (UTC)reply
We might not want to have an automatic archival or the talk page, just because some discussions can go on for longer than however many days it might be decided to have the automatic archival. I imagine that archiving the introduction messages would have to be done by hand, but it doesn't seem like it would be too hard, and pretty much anyone could take care of it. We could archive the introduction messages once they're five days (or any number) old, to be put in a section of the archives? --
Natalya05:06, 30 September 2006 (UTC)reply
I still think that Essjay's bot would work. You see, at ANI, the bot looks at the LAST TIMESTAMP in each incident report. If no one has responded on the ANI report within 24 hrs, then the bot will archive it. Same in this situation: as long as the discussion has been inactive for 3-5 days or so, then the bot can archive it. Everyone else is thinking that bots archive by looking at the FIRST post, but it's actually the LAST thread!--
EdtalkcE15:28, 30 September 2006 (UTC)reply
Werdnabot sounds like a good idea. Shall we do 7 days, similar to what the Coffee Lounge does? There are very few threads that ever have meaningful activity after seven days of nothing. --
Natalya00:16, 1 October 2006 (UTC)reply
It can certainly be just established! Anyone is free to be bold and implement it, but if not, I will take care of it. Good job of working out a great solution, everyone! You guys are awesome. --
Natalya05:10, 1 October 2006 (UTC)reply
I went to go put the code onto the page, but when I was comparing the
Werdnabot instructions to how it is set up at the Coffee Lounge, they seem to differ; is it only because the Coffee Lounge isn't a talk page, or should the code be different here too? Thanks, all of you who understand this better than myself. --
Natalya17:37, 1 October 2006 (UTC)reply
It's just because the Werdnabot instructions are substituted; I've tested it out on my user page and it seems to match that of Coffee Lounge. For the seven day time period as used on CL, use {{subst:User:Werdnabot/Archiver/Template|age=7|target=Talk:Esperanza/Archive}}
at the top of this page, and it should all sort itself out.
Laïka18:05, 1 October 2006 (UTC)reply
In order for me to establish Werdnabot, I changed the format for the future archives by Archive CURRENTMONTHABBREV CURRENTYEAR. That way, Werdnabot's archival will be a simple process.--
EdtalkcE00:25, 2 October 2006 (UTC)reply
Nice to meet you! And yes, we have hundreds of members right now, so that we can watch every page every second! A quick response is guaranteed wherever you post a message!--
EdtalkcE00:58, 3 October 2006 (UTC)reply
It seems like you know how to use raw signatures. Change you sig in a way that you can incorporate a green link to
User:Roninbk/Esperanza. If you need help, use <font color="green"> INSERT A LETTER HERE </font>.
Go back to your Esperanza subpage and add {{Greene|user=Roninbk|char=THE GREEN LETTER THAT APPEARS ON YOUR SIG}}.
Sorry, but I must go now. Let's hope someone else will be watching this page and reply to any questions you have in less than a minute!!! =) --Edtalkc01:53, 3 October 2006 (UTC)reply
I'm considering joining Esperanza
Since my one-week block (see my talk page for an explanation of why I was blocked) has expired, I am considering joining Esperanza. This is partially due to the influence of several Wikifriends who are Esperanza members (namely
Imoeng,
Richardshusr and
Terence Ong). Another reason why I am considering joining is that I am often stressed by Wikipedia (don't get me wrong - I enjoy writing articles, but anonymous vandals are a real pain), and Esperanza would help me cope with my stress better, so I wouldn't go berserk and do things I regret later (such as the actions which lead to my block).
Here's some background information about me: I have been editing Wikipedia for 8 months, and according to
Essjay's tool, I have 1113 edits. I created
Requests for feedback, a process to help contributors seek feedback on new articles they have written. I am actively involved in writing (and re-writing) articles, and am a member of
the Good Articles WikiProject.
Based on the background reason, and the reasons I have provided for wishing to join Esperanza, do you think I am suitable? If so, I will join, and I hope you'll make me feel welcome here.
Anyone is welcome to join Esperanza, providing they meet the minimal
membership requirements, which you do. As I'm sure you know, Esperanza works to create a positive community amongst editors; vandalizing things pretty much works against this. We will be glad to have you here, and hope that you can relax a bit with us, but remember that vandalism, or anything of the sort, is directly un-Esperanzian. --
Natalya11:22, 6 October 2006 (UTC)reply
Natalya, I understand that vandalism isn't Esperanzian. I hope that Esperanza can help me handle stress better, so I will not resort to
WP:POINT violations or vandalism. Since Esperanza looks suitable for me, and I meet the membership requirements, how do I officially join? --
J.L.W.S. The Special One15:03, 6 October 2006 (UTC)reply
Hey, you've already done good things for Wikipedia and the blocking doesn't seem to be your fault. You get my support. Grab a cup of coffee! --
Roninbktce#12:19, 6 October 2006 (UTC)reply
Join? Just add your name to the member's list. Hey, even I've joined. No one escapes, so it seems. And the "coffee", I suspect, refers to the
Coffee Lounge.
Mind you, you're darn lucky to be here at all. That kind of vandalism and
WP:POINTism almost invariably gets people an indefban. Clearly the blocking admin was an enlightened individual who realised that you had more good stuff to contribute to WP.
Moreschi15:30, 6 October 2006 (UTC)reply
Nope, it's not just you! The tide will ebb and flow though; it's been rather active lately, and I'm sure it will become so again soon. :) --
Natalya03:12, 6 October 2006 (UTC)reply
Aha! Thank you for helping me make the page active again. Now we all know what to do when this page gets inactive.....--Edtalkc00:55, 7 October 2006 (UTC)reply
There's a semi-serious poll at
Coffee Lounge about creating an Esperanza mascot (so far, the contest is between a lemming and a wombat). Should it be moved here to make the poll 'official'?
Laïka16:18, 1 October 2006 (UTC)reply
Fair enough. Nevertheless, should we set up a poll, even just "Should Esperanza have a mascot?" at this stage?
Laïka17:42, 1 October 2006 (UTC)reply
It seems like a good idea to start a poll either now, or after the results of the elections have been made offical as the reaction at the coffee lounge seems to warrent this idea being looked at closer by everyone (and for anyone who hasn't seen, go check out some of the ideas there, especially the Mortal Wombat, whom I love ;)
Thε HaloΘ17:47, 1 October 2006 (UTC)reply
To be serious, no. Esperanza has enough of a perception problem as is, without adding an official mascot. Talking about a mascot is all well and good on the coffee lounge page, but actually electing one risks reinforcing the perception of Esperanza as all "wishy-washy" that I thought we were trying to change. --
Kyoko17:25, 2 October 2006 (UTC)reply
That's what I'm saying, Shreshth. If the Lounge wants a mascot, that's one thing, and it can exist without Esperanza having one. See? -
Che Nuevara03:31, 3 October 2006 (UTC)reply
Oh, sorry! I misread that. I thought you meant the Coffee Lounge will elect a mascot for Esperanza. I guess it can elect a mascot for itself, and I agree with the idea. --May the Force be with you!
Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|)04:09, 3 October 2006 (UTC)reply
I also thought the mascot would be for the lounge, and I think that will be fine. But for Esperanza as a whole, I think that each and everyone of us are Esperanza's mascots.
Thε HaloΘ11:37, 3 October 2006 (UTC)reply
Hi, everybody! I joined just a few minutes ago, and got welcomed only a few minutes after (thanks to
Sasuke-kun27)! What a great sense of community! I hope I learn to fit in and help keep our encyclopedia going! --
P.B. Pilhet (Talk to me
here)
21:29, 7 October 2006 (UTC)reply
It's
7 October2006 Singapore time, which means I am now 15 years old. (I have updated my userpage to reflect this.) Now that my block has expired, I will be editing as much as I can today. For the next two days, I will be editing sporadically; after my exams finish on 10 October, I'll be very active. How do I add myself to Esperanza's birthday calendar? (P.S. Do you serve chocolate cakes here?) --
J.L.W.S. The Special One02:40, 7 October 2006 (UTC)reply
Not to put too fine a point on it but I think it's ¡Feliz cumpleaños! "años" may be plural but the counting of them is singular. Not being fluent in Spanish, I acknowledge that I may be wrong on this. In any event, Happy Birthday, Hildanknight. --
Richard04:42, 7 October 2006 (UTC)reply
I'm sorry to argue with the more fluent Spanish speakers, but isn't the Happy Birthday song: "Cumpleaños feliz...."--Edtalkc19:09, 7 October 2006 (UTC)reply
In my Spanish class, I heard "Cumpleaños feliz..." in place of "Happy Birthday to you...". And we used the regular Happy Birthday tune that English speakers use. But my Spanish teacher might be wrong....--Edtalkc19:18, 7 October 2006 (UTC)reply
Well, the word "feliz" modifies "cumpleaños", therefore making it "¡Cumpleaños feliz!". However, if it's Christmas, wouldn't we say "¡Feliz Navidad!"?—Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Ed (
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contribs)
Well, our Spanish teacher always taught us "¡Feliz cumpleaños!", yet the tune always went:
Why are you editing with a broken wrist? Welcome, anyway! Hope you like it here. I see that you have already constructed a nice signature.--Chili1400:30, 12 October 2006 (UTC)reply
I just got a cast on today, before then I had a splint. I just hope that this helps me become ambidextrous. I only fractured it, the bone didn't need to be set.
Hemhem20X600:51, 12 October 2006 (UTC)reply
After seeing that several users I've come in contact with were part of Esperanza, I decided to check it out. As I read about it, I felt that it was a great idea. Too many times on Wikipedia I've seen a newbie who made a mistake, as I'm sure we all did when we were new, get scared away from Wikipedia. I've also seen too many cases of incivility. I want to help reverse that, in the most civil way possible. I also want to reward deserving people for their work, especially if it goes unnoticed. I've been a member of Wikipedia for over a year now, but until recently I didn't have a home internet connection. Since I can access Wikipedia more often, I feel I have time to start getting involved in the wiki community. Esperanza is very fast at welcoming people. I was a member for less than 5 minutes when I got my welcome message. I'm glad to be a part of this community, and look forward to getting more involved in it. ShardsofmetalTalk •
Contribs03:56, 13 October 2006 (UTC)reply
Hey Shardsofmetal. We welcome you to the tyrannical benevolent kingdom of Esperanza. Enjoy yourself! --May the Force be with you!
Shreshth9104:57, 13 October 2006 (UTC)reply
Hello everybody. I would just like to tell you all that I have decided to switch my usage of the Wiki to this not-so-new account. I am the same person as Chili14, but now I am known as Chilifix. This account will be used for reverting vandalism, and to work on getting a certain article to Featured Article. I am ineligible to sign up for Esperanza again, as I do not have 500 edits. I will wait until it is the right time to sign up again. I have watchlisted this page and other essential EA pages, so I will know exactly what's going on. I will use Chili14 again, I just want to stretch the muscles of this one. Expect to see me a lot on Recent Changes patrol. Thank you and have a nice day.--
Chilifix05:17, 14 October 2006 (UTC)reply
Hello, Chilifix, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank for your contributions. We hope you like it here and decide to stay.
Oh, you say that you're not a new user? Well, never mind then. Thank you all the same, and if you respond to this message, that will mean that you will be one edit closer to reaching the minimum requirements of joining Esperanza. BTW, I think that the requirements are for 150 edits, not 500 as you stated on the Esperanza talk page.