Collection of Utah State docs in NPS's Warehouse District doc
This is not really a problem, in that there is nothing to fix. Hopefully the National Park Service will continue to make this big document collection available at its current location. That would best preserve links from numerous articles.
There is a collection of Utah State Historical Society documents (Structure/Site Information forms) available, for 24 historic sites in Salt Lake City, all in one 84 page PDF. The PDF is served up by the National Park Service at
https://npgallery.nps.gov/NRHP/GetAsset/NRHP/82004149_text.
That is, however, the location where one would expect for a NRHP registration/nomination document for the original listing of the
Warehouse District (Salt Lake City, Utah) (NRHP-listed August 17, 1982, reference number 82004149). (The Warehouse District was later greatly increased in size by a boundary increase listing on March 22, 2016, refnum=16000125.) Oddly, most or all of the sites covered in the collection are NOT in the original or later-expanded Warehouse District! Many are on Main Street (formerly East Temple St.), which is not at all in the Warehouse District. (This was
pointed out to me by Tamanoeconomico. )
The sites covered, with various related notes, are:
Oregon Shortline Railroad Company Bldg./Salt Lake High School Armory Bldg./Western Newspaper Union Bldg. (1897-98) Oregon Shortline Railroad Company Building, separately NRHP-listed in 1976.
Note for many/most of these there is a regular NRHP document available which has content often overlapping, and not independent of, the Utah State forms. But it seems useful to refer to the (presumably older) Utah State forms, too.
Photos miss-filed under [[Great Basin Research Station Historic District's reference number,
accompanying three photos from 1993 are photos, instead, of
Rock Island Depot in Grandfield, Oklahoma. Expected location for photos to accompany the Rock Island Depot's nomination has no file. Where are photos for Great Basin> --
Doncram (
talk) 14:49, 1 November 2019 (UTC)reply
Frederick Issac and Mary M. Jones House in Monticello: correct spelling from "Issac" to "Isaac". The misspelling is in the first use of the name on the nomination form, but all subsequent uses are spelled correctly.
Ntsimp (
talk) 09:22, 8 January 2010 (UTC)reply
In
Santa Clara Tithing Company in Washington County, the word Company should actually be Granary (the right name is written on the forms).
Ntsimp (
talk) 04:38, 27 February 2010 (UTC)reply
Justis Wellington II Seeley House in
Castle Dale; the correct spelling of his first name is Justus (all occurances after the first usage in the nomination form are correct), and the II should be moved after the surname Seeley.
Ntsimp (
talk) 19:43, 5 May 2011 (UTC)reply
Anders Hintze House is listed in NRIS2010a as "Hintze-Anders House", by an apparent typo in data entry. The Utah historical form reflects some confusion in handmarking upon it, but its typed name is clear and it was built by Anders Hintze. --
Doncram (
talk) 01:25, 14 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Brady-Brady House seems miss-named, why not just "Brady House". Sure there was one Brady couple who lived there then it was occupied by another, i think a son plus his wife. But lots of NRHP-listed historic houses are that way. The NRHP document ( Beatrice Lufkin (September 23, 2004).
"National Register of Historic Places Registration: Brady/Brady House".
National Park Service. Retrieved October 20, 2019. With
accompanying three photos from 2004 ) does seem to consistently call it the "Brady/Brady House", which Wikipedia editors implement as "Brady-Brady House" (note article titles cannot include slash marks, we do this for all cases where name given has a slash). What is it called locally, and by the Utah SHPO? It just seems bizarre. The NRHP document is authored by a consultant named Beatrice Lufkin; I don't know if she authored other nominations but I haven't seen her name yet in others (hmm, searching in Wikipedia on her name also brings up
Stewart–Hills House,
Sugar House Monument, and
Manfred and Ethel Martin House currently). NRHP document gives her phone number as of 2004. --
Doncram (
talk) 19:32, 20 October 2019 (UTC)reply
John, Harriet, and Eliza Jennett Duncan House is named in NRIS in garbled way, maybe there it is merely "John Duncan Harriet", or at least that is the snippet interpreted for what NRIS2013a has, reflected in the Elkman NRHP infobox generator. The NRHP document title uses convoluted "Duncan, John, Harriet, and Eliza Jennett, House", which needs to be unraveled. It is a Duncan family house, built by Charles Duncan and Samuel Duncan. The body of the document uses " John, Harriet, and Eliza Jennett Duncan House" which is reasonable, seems best to be used in Wikipedia title, and the NRIS name should be fixed to that. --
Doncram (
talk) 00:31, 27 October 2019 (UTC)reply
NOTE: Strikeouts above indicate that NRIS was updated to remove them, with delisting dates given. User:Ntsimp put in effort to get that to happen. --
Doncram (
talk) 00:26, 16 October 2019 (UTC)reply
Logan High School Gymnasium is suggested in October 2019 to be "almost certainly gone" by
User:Ntsimp, and browsing Google satellite and street views suggests it is not hidden anywhere in the current school complex, and further,
Logan High School (Utah) article states "The old boys' gym was demolished in the summer of 1999 and a new gymnasium, lobby, and storage area was built in its place, opening during the 2000–2001 school year," without source, but that was probably it. :( --
Doncram (
talk) 00:26, 16 October 2019 (UTC)reply
Benson Elementary School, at 3440 N. 3000 West in Benson, Utah, built in 1935, listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1985, was demolished apparently.
User:Ntsimp noted in its article: "Originally built as a local elementary school, in 1969 the building began to be used for the Cache Instructional Workshop, a vocational school for people with disabilities. Years later the program was moved, and the building was demolished sometime between 1993 and 2002." It would be nice to get a source about the demolition, but I gather that it surely is gone. --
Doncram (
talk) 00:34, 16 October 2019 (UTC)reply
Confusingly blue-colored house at 245 Park Ave. thought to be the Jacob F. Richardson House, was in fact a different house... its photo, at right, does not match photo accompanying the National Register nomination (actually a Utah State Historical Society form, Roger Roper (April 1984).
"Utah State Historical Society Structure/Site Information: Jacob F. Richardson House".
National Park Service. Retrieved October 17, 2019. With
accompanying two photos from 1983 ). One issue is that it seems the
NRIS database reports incorrectly the address as 245 Park Ave., while the document and accompanying photo's captions say it is at 205 Park Ave. Google Streetview dated June 2018 shows the blue house at 245, and shows a different, yellow house at 205. However the yellow house appears to be a modern replacement or expansion; the original small pyramid house seems to be gone. --
Doncram (
talk) 12:41, 17 October 2019 (UTC)reply
Google Streetview imagery dated June 2019 shows a new building under construction just to the east of an existing building, when accessed October 18, 2019. The existing building appears to be modern, seems not incorporating the historic building.
Further, Bing aerial view shows the pre-existing building there previously, which appears also not to be or incorporate the historic building, labelled as Canyons Student Support Center.
The same building viewed in Google Satellite view is labelled Canyons School District Administrative Office.
Allsop-Jensen House, at 8829 S. 400 East St. in
Sandy, Utah, was listed on the
National Register of Historic Places in 1996. The property included two
contributing buildings. (Maxine Hanks; Allen D. Roberts; Utah SHPO staff (January 1996).
"National Register of Historic Places Registration: Allsop/Jensen House".
National Park Service. Retrieved October 18, 2019. With
accompanying five photos ). There was a A c.1874 log barn and c.1920 animal shelter. Do either of those still exist? The barn appears to be gone. Google Streetview, dated June 2016, verifies house is there, as does Google Satellite view copyright 2019. The barn behind can be seen in the 2016 Google Streetview, from E. 8800 St. across a vacant lot. In Google Satellite view the vacant lot has been filled in: there are two or three new houses right on E. 8800 St. and a driveway between then to two new houses behind, seemingly where the barn was located.
The barn was moved previously in its history to this location. Could it have been dissassembled and moved? --
Doncram (
talk) 03:36, 19 October 2019 (UTC)reply
Park City, Utah, demolitions: Real estate development pressure there is high, where 104 small frame mining-era houses were NRHP-listed. Some have been demolished and yet are still listed, apparently.
Not really a street address, but the
Cave Springs Cowboy Camp near
Moab, Utah is listed in the "Cave Springs vicintiy". Need to correct spelling of "vicinity".
Nyttend (
talk) 03:06, 5 March 2009 (UTC)reply
Old Irontown near
Cedar City, Utah is listed as being "About 22 miles west of Ceder City" — need to correct spelling to "About 22 miles west of Cedar City".
Nyttend (
talk) 16:17, 5 March 2009 (UTC)reply
Zion-Mount Carmel Highway is listed as connecting U.S. Routes 9 and 89 — 89 is sensible, but 9 is only on the East Coast. Likely a typo for
Utah State Route 9, which travels through this part of the state.
Nyttend (
talk) 17:46, 23 May 2009 (UTC)reply
Farmer's Union Building in Layton is listed at State and W. Gentile Sts.; apparently State St. has been renamed to Main St., as appears on Google Maps.
Nyttend (
talk) 01:34, 9 June 2009 (UTC)reply
and the current legal address is 12 S. Main St.
Ntsimp (
talk) 21:11, 8 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Two different John Ashworth Houses in
Beaver are reported by
Ntsimp as having the wrong addresses: 1105 S. 1st West he changes to 110 S. 1st West, and 115 S. 200 West he changes to 155 S. 200 West.
Nyttend (
talk) 20:43, 26 June 2009 (UTC)reply
Murphy Trail and Bridge near Moab is listed as being in the "Murphy Point vicinty"; correct "vicinty" to "vicinity".
Nyttend (
talk) 04:37, 12 August 2009 (UTC)reply
The
Murray Downtown Historic District in Murray is listed as being "Roughly bounded by 4800 South, Popkar St., Vine St. and Center St."; correct "Popkar" to "Poplar".
Nyttend (
talk) 12:51, 23 October 2009 (UTC)reply
Knight-Mangum House in Utah County, NRHP-listed July 23, 1982, is identified in NRIS as having street address 318 E. Carter St. Apparently the correct address is 381 E. Center St. (typo: 318; correct: 381; typo: Carter; correct: Center). In
this diff editor Ntsimp updates the address, presumably based on specific knowledge. I will ask Ntsimp to comment here. --
doncram 16:52, 27 April 2011 (UTC)reply
The correct address comes from the nomination form, which is online at Focus. There is no Carter St. in Provo.
Ntsimp (
talk) 16:58, 27 April 2011 (UTC)reply
James P. and Lydia Strang House in
Springville is identified in NRIS as having street address 306 S. 200 West. This is the address given on the nomination form, but it's in error, having been copied from the William and Ann Bringhurst House. The correct address is 293 E. 400 North, listed as the property owner's address on the form. The first photo at Focus shows that the house has the number 293 on the front, and the photos can be seen to match the appearance of the house at this address on Google Maps.
Ntsimp (
talk) 18:46, 12 December 2011 (UTC)reply
I've just realized that I need to post a lot more here. I've been correcting many listings on the list articles without making any comment here. So I'll list them by county, with each wrong address and the corrected one. Sometimes streets have been named or coordinates renumbered, sometimes numbers just need correction, and sometimes the original address was just given as "off State Route N" when an actual address exists:.
Hopefully the large amount of data here isn't unwieldy; and hopefully the format isn't too weird to use.
Ntsimp (
talk) 22:17, 13 December 2011 (UTC)reply
Lewiston Tithing Office and Granary in
Lewiston is listed as "87 E. 800 South", but the correct address is "81 E. 800 South" (wrong on the form, but address shows in the official photo).
Ntsimp (
talk) 22:37, 28 July 2014 (UTC)reply
Kanab Library in
Kanab is listed as "600 S. 100 East", but the correct address is "6 S. 100 East" (correct on the form).
Ntsimp (
talk) 21:12, 10 November 2014 (UTC)reply
John C. Weeter House in
Park City is listed as 483 Norfolk Ave. in NRIS, but the correct address is 843 Norfolk Ave. (correct on the form).
Ntsimp (
talk) 13:04, 3 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Summit Stake Tabernacle, also known as the Coalville Tabernacle, is a former building, apparently demolished in 1971, that apparently was listed on the National Register of Historic Places and later removed from NRHP listing. NRIS info lists the building's address as Summit Stake Tabernacle, 1st North and Main Sts., in Salt Lake City, UT, within Salt Lake County, but it seems to have been at 1st North and Main Sts. in Coalville, in Summit County, instead. --
doncram 17:24, 13 June 2013 (UTC)reply
Oquirrh School's architect?
This edit with summary "Removed Oquirrh School from list of buildings designed by Kletting. Oquirrh School was apparently designed by William Carroll (Salt Lake Herald, 10-28-1892, p. 8)", indicates that the
NRIS assertion of
Richard Kletting being architect is wrong. Noting uncertainty also at
Talk:Oquirrh School. The NRHP document is not available online, AFAICT. --
Doncram (
talk) 06:40, 23 May 2019 (UTC)reply
Er, hmm, the document does list "Victorian Eclectic". That may be interpreted as secondary, IMO, perhaps describing the trim. The substantial style of the house, i.e. the mansard roof, is Second Empire. --
Doncram (
talk) 22:09, 8 May 2019 (UTC)reply
Lauritz Smith House is asserted in NRIS to have Colonial Revival architecture. That is not supported in its NRHP nomination, and it is not obviously of that type overall. Perhaps it has a detail or two arguably of that type, but even that is not asserted in its nomination. --
Doncram (
talk) 19:09, 24 May 2019 (UTC)reply
James B. Staker House, refnum = 80003954, in
Mount Pleasant, Utah, in
Sanpete County, Utah is reported in NRIS2013a as having "Santepe vernacular", which doesn't make sense. Maybe "folk/vernacular" is supported in the NRHP document, but probably not any such thing as "Sanpete vernacular" and certainly not "Santepe" anything. --
Doncram (
talk) 06:52, 14 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Coordinates issues
Glen M. and Roxie Walbeck House in
Draper, Utah has coords of 2127537610 ° 30 ′ 742170348748850 ″ N 1799742532 ° 58 ′ 30691836297216000 ″ W; over two billion degrees north latitude, and I thought the bridge on the Equator was unrealistic!
Nyttend (
talk) 18:20, 5 March 2009 (UTC)reply