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The 9th (Highland) Infantry Division was a second-line Territorial Army division that was active for almost a year. It was dispersed throughout Scotland to strategically important points, which mostly included Royal Navy installations, and played a role in the initial defensive plans of the UK. In August 1940, it was renamed as the 51st (Highland) Infantry Division (the division's first-line counterpart). The article has been given a copy-edit by the GOCE, and recently passed a GA review.
EnigmaMcmxc (
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15:46, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
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Alt text, links etc are fine, except:
I assessed this for GAN and had a good pick at it there.
- IMO you over use quotations in footnote c; it would be better to paraphrase this into your own words.
- I have paraphrased the quote
EnigmaMcmxc (
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00:46, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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- If you want to go on to FAC you may want to also look at the use of French towards the end of the main article; but IMO that is marginally acceptable.
- I think A-Class will be as far as I go with this article, but understand.
EnigmaMcmxc (
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00:46, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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- "In November 1939, the division was assigned to this initial defensive plan and remained so until 1940." Erm, maybe something like 'In November 1939, the division was assigned a role in this initial defensive plan, which it retained until 1940.'?
- Tweaked per your recommendation
EnigmaMcmxc (
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00:46, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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- "The plan envisioned troops in the affected area to immediately locate and defeat German parachutists, or to cordon off and thereby immobilise any German forces" → 'The plan envisioned troops in the affected area immediately locating and defeating German parachutists, or cordoning off and thereby immobilising any German forces ... '
- Tweaked per your recommendation
EnigmaMcmxc (
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00:46, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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Otherwise it is looking pretty good.
Gog the Mild (
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20:28, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
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- Thank you for the comment and review
EnigmaMcmxc (
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00:46, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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Support: G'day, nice work. I have a few minor comments:
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00:53, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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Gog the Mild (
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00:57, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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This article is in great shape. I have a few comments:
- in the lead, "The new 51st Division
would gowent on to fight"
- tweaked
EnigmaMcmxc (
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17:32, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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- suggest "to increase the size of the Territorial Army (TA)"
- Amended per your comment
EnigmaMcmxc (
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17:32, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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- suggest "The first-line divisions would then form new divisions"
- Amended per your comment
EnigmaMcmxc (
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17:32, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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- drop the "militiamen" per my comments on the last article
- tweaked
EnigmaMcmxc (
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17:32, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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- in the Formation and home defence section, is there a brigade deployment plan in support of the RN that can be inserted? If not, perhaps it could be emphasised that brigades weren't even deployed together, as for example, 5th SH and 7th GH were from different brigades. What, if any, role did the brigade headquarters play in all this?
- I have tweaked the ending sentence of the second para to make this point. The sources do not discuss brigade headquarters, or their role in all this.
EnigmaMcmxc (
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17:32, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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- which three bns were deployed around Fife?
- same for Invergordon?
- In regards to these two points, there are very few sources available that discuss these 2nd-line battalions, and especially during their home service. Some of the battalions are omitted in their regimental histories. The article for the Gordon Highlanders suggests the 9th Battalion was also at Scapa Flow, but that does not seem to jive with the source mentioned (snippet view on Google Books does not seem to mention battalion locations), and does not jive with sources that do specify the Scapa Flow garrison.
EnigmaMcmxc (
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17:32, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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- does "While the division had" indicate a general lack of equipment, as reflected in the sources? If so, perhaps preface this with that observation?
- I have moved this point to a more chronological point. I have added a bit more detail from the source, although he only provides specifics for the AT guns and rifles for the division.
EnigmaMcmxc (
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17:32, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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- Note c indicates that the Germans only had 6K troops for air landing, but as shown in Crete with the air-transported 5th Mountain Division, other troops could be air-transported. It is more likely that the Luftwaffe lift capability was the limiting factor.
- The full quote from Newbold is "followed by a maximum of 15,000 troops carried in 1,000 civil aircraft. Although the civil aircraft were capable of carrying 15 men each, Germany was only known to possess 6,000 airlanding troops, trained as such"
- While the article is not well sourced, the 5th Mountain article suggests it was not raised until after the invasion scare of the UK, which would leave only the 22nd in said role at this point.
EnigmaMcmxc (
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17:32, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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- suggest "On 6 March, Lindsay returned to retirement"
- tweaked
EnigmaMcmxc (
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17:32, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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- "who had been the
of Director of Personal Services"
- extra word removed
EnigmaMcmxc (
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17:32, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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- suggest "at the capability of German airborne forces"
- tweaked
EnigmaMcmxc (
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17:32, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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- "Because of the anticipated threat in the south" if that is what is meant?
- Yes, and tweaked
EnigmaMcmxc (
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17:32, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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- current rank for Edmund Ironside?
- added
EnigmaMcmxc (
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17:32, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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- drop the comma from "As a result of the German advance, during"
- dropped
EnigmaMcmxc (
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17:32, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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- "it's position"→"its position"
- removed
EnigmaMcmxc (
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17:32, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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- "Within 24 hours"
- tweaked
EnigmaMcmxc (
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17:32, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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- Le Harve–Le Havre, there is another example of this
- Yikes! I have corrected this.
- was renumbered the 153rd Brigade
- amended
EnigmaMcmxc (
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17:32, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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That's all I have.
Peacemaker67 (
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08:53, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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- As always, thank you for the review. I have addressed the majority of your points, and left a few comments in response to others.
EnigmaMcmxc (
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17:32, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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- No worries, a pleasure to review these articles. Supporting.
Peacemaker67 (
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02:40, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
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- The sources are of high quality and reliable.
Peacemaker67 (
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10:04, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
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All images are appropriately licensed.
Gog the Mild (
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08:58, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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Looks good to go. Cheers.
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11:16, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
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