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Drunvalo Melchizedek

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It's regrettable that this page has remained on Wikipedia for so long. It relies exclusively on primary sources and blog posts. Drunvalo Melchizedek lacks significant coverage in multiple, independent reliable sources. There are no serious reviews of his self published books. Consensus was deletion after a previous nomination in 2012. Not much has changed. He might be well known in New Age pseudoscience circles but there is nothing of substance for a Wikipedia page. Ynsfial ( talk) 19:07, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Comment The AFD is inaccurate as this is not the same page from 2012. It was recreated from scratch with available info in 2019. Also, the AFD does not actually give any specific grounds for deletion except what sounds like personal disdain, which WP needs to be above. In fact, the deletion submission itself admits topical notability. Whether said topical area is bad or good is not relevant to encyclopedic inclusion. - Keith D. Tyler ¶ 12:15, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply
You need to give my AFD a second read. My specific grounds for deletion are clearly stated. Drunvalo Melchizedek lacks significant coverage in multiple, independent reliable sources, which I determined after checking for coverage of him online. Second of all, as an author and researcher, his work lacks serious reviews, though I recognize this is just one aspect of author notability criteria that he fails to meet. He doesn't seem to meet the others either. I'm not sure what you mean about topical notability. A TikToker every other teen is familiar with is well known to many people. But if there isn't much serious coverage of them they aren't encyclopedically notable. If you believe he meets the notability criteria, please provide a few credible sources this. Ynsfial ( talk) 13:41, 23 July 2024 (UTC) reply
My first inclination would be WP:AUTHOR, in that, at least in his field (however dubious), he is considered a significant figure. This is rather bolstered, I would say, by the number of the independent secondary sources already cited. Additionally, that his work has been the inspiration for notable artists as diverse as Tool and Willow Smith lends some amount of significant influence. But again, even your nomination concedes that "he might be well known in New Age... circles" which would seem to render the question moot; even you're not entirely certain of his non-notability, which I still think shoots significant holes through any WP:NN argument.

As for WP:RS, I would point to Wikipedia:Fringe_theories#Parity_of_sources:
Parity of sources may mean that certain fringe theories are only reliably and verifiably reported on, or criticized, in alternative venues from those that are typically considered reliable sources for scientific topics on Wikipedia. For example, the lack of peer-reviewed criticism of creation science should not be used as a justification for marginalizing or removing scientific criticism of creation science, since creation science itself is not published in peer-reviewed journals. Likewise, the views of adherents should not be excluded from an article on creation science solely on the basis that their work lacks peer review. Other considerations for notability should be considered as well.

Keith D. Tyler ¶ 05:30, 24 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Thank you for pointing out the guideline concerning parity of sources. Please provide 3 of the independent secondary sources cited that you think best establish notability and we can discuss it from there. Ynsfial ( talk) 15:04, 26 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete per WP:RS - I don’t see a single reliable source, unless you consider Jezebel to be reliable. This is in no was close to passing notability. Bearian ( talk) 03:29, 24 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Colorado

Chickenpox (South Park)

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Only two sources, which do not appear to qualify as SIGCOV. There does not seem to be a justification based on notability as on why this episode should have a separate article (i.e. it could also be redirected to South Park (season 2). Stanley Joseph Wilkins ( talk) 05:53, 26 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Redirect to South Park season 2 - The A.V. Club is SIGCOV but it alone isn't enough. I found some list entries by MovieWeb ( [1]) and Digital Spy ( [2]) but I don't consider those SIGCOV. Fails WP:GNG. -- Mika1h ( talk) 09:27, 26 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep AV Club is sigcov, and I feel making the list at movieweb for underrated episodes (coming 20+ years after it originally aired) is cause enough for passing WP:GNG DonaldD23 talk to me 18:25, 26 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Keep. Two sources -- as they say, OH! That's A SIGCOV!! jp× g 🗯️ 23:28, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Two sources does not make it enough a SIGCOV. SpacedFarmer ( talk) 12:32, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

Delete. As said above, it may be WP:RS but two sources does not make it a WP:SIGCOV

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Connecticut

Tip the Van

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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. toweli ( talk) 00:38, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete unless someone can find multiple independent reliable sources that devote significant coverage to this band. I couldn't. Cullen328 ( talk) 01:08, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Further on Tomorrow

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I couldn't find sources to add confirming it meets WP:NALBUM / WP:GNG. Boleyn ( talk) 16:12, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Redirect to Marc Douglas Berardo: I also found no additional coverage. In fact, I found nothing that suggests that Bernardo himself is notable, and I launched a separate AfD for his page. If that page is kept, this should be redirected there; if that page is deleted then the redirect will be speedied. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 12:03, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Le Cordon Bleu College of Culinary Arts Miami

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fails general notability guideline. ltb d l ( talk) 08:14, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

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Appointment Trader

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Looks like a promotioin and the platform doesn't seem significant enough. Thewikizoomer ( talk) 17:54, 27 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Brock Berryhill

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Found no coverage of the artist beyond the one MusicRow article already present. Passing mentions for credits on notable musicians' songs does not make notability here. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 02:11, 19 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Lil Phat

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When your biggest claim to fame is a single guest appearance on a more notable rapper's ( Webbie) single and the only coverage is of your death, it's a pretty clear instance of WP:NMUSICBIO. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 00:41, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Redirect to Independent (song). Someone searching for Lil Phat in that context is pretty likely. Geschichte ( talk) 09:04, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Sedale Threatt Jr. (basketball)

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NBASKETBALL - was created in 2017 with heavy promotional material. The subject played primarily in an Australian second tier semi-professional league. There are no secondary or independent sources available. The subject is also basically an Orphan with it's only link being his father's page at Sedale Threatt. DaHuzyBru ( talk) 06:59, 27 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Redirect to Sedale Threatt. Not a complete throwaway as he did win some awards, but never played at a significant professional level (i.e., the NBA). 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 00:52, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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August 2016 Western United States wildfires

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The page is currently 2 sentences long, and doesn't meet WP:NOTABLE. Sir MemeGod ._. ( talk - contribs - created articles) 04:07, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

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Redirect to List of wildfires#Canada and the United States. per WP:NOTNEWS, it has no WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE Warm Regards, Miminity ( talk) ( contribs) 04:17, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

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Jon M. Sweeney

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Article appears to be promotional and has been edited extensively by user:Jonmsweeney, user:Jonmsweeney1234 and user:Friedsparrow, all SPA accounts who have also added Sweeney's name to other articles.

Much promo text has been removed since the article was raised at COIN [3], what remains is poorly sourced and it does not seem clear that notability criteria have been met. Axad12 ( talk) 06:54, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Keep & fix article issues (or draftify). Yes, the article has had extensive edits by CoI accounts. However, as noted in the nom, much of the promo text has been addressed. Poorly sourced is not the same as unsourced, and it also is different from "unsourcable". A quick look through JSTOR shows that Sweeney is an often referenced academic in his field, and I think that the subject would be found to be notable with a little bit of effort. Fixing an article's issues is generally preferable to deletion ( WP:ATD), and if that can't be done, it should be draftified. ButlerBlog ( talk) 12:36, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Butlerblog

Hi, yes point taken. Just to clarify on the issue of sources...

When I said "poorly sourced" above I meant that some of the material is entirely unsourced and some of the sources that do exist are either written by Sweeney himself or are to YouTube or are promotional links to where his books can be purchased on Amazon.

With regards to your comment re: "unsourcable", I think it's worth noting that the only person to have contributed to this article to any significant degree is the subject himself. If the subject has been unable to provide sourcing for basic info like his date of birth, place of birth, and details of his family history and educational history, then I think it's reasonable to assume that those details are indeed "unsourcable". Adding [citation needed] to that sort of thing would just be overly optimistic.

So, it seems to me that there are genuine issues on the sourcing here for about 50% of the material in the current article. That being the case, I would support your secondary suggestion of draftify.

I take on board also the comments below re: reviews and WP:NAUTHOR. Axad12 ( talk) 11:34, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply
Correcting myself, in my post above I said "The subject" but I ought to have said "the subject or someone editing on his behalf " Axad12 ( talk) 12:02, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep and address issues. Sweeney meets WP:NAUTHOR as multiple books have been the subject of reviews in reliable sources. Significa liberdade (she/her) ( talk) 02:04, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

Keep. While there are COI issues it isn't TNT level bad, so there's no use deleting this when he is notable. PARAKANYAA ( talk) 07:58, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

Transaction Advisors

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If you check the article history, all content is pretty obviously written by employees of the organization that published this journal. It does not seem notable, it was self-published and every source listed is also self-published (their own website or press releases), except for Worldcat which just confirms the journal existed for one year and is archived in one library in the whole world. If you Google it's just unrelated things and self-promotion. Not seeing any legitimate third-party sources to meet Wikipedia inclusion standards. Here2rewrite ( talk) 16:24, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete. Neither the article nor web searching provides any evidence of passing WP:GNG (the controlling guideline) nor WP:NJOURNALS. — David Eppstein ( talk) 19:08, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Delete I searched Google for sources with "transaction advisors" and "journal" and excluding material on their own website and anything with the PR phrases "prestigious technical journal" and "prestigious new technical journal". It did yield three publications [4] [5] [6] that cite it as a reference (one, from the snippet displayed, might not have been, but the other two did include its ISSN and did clearly appear to be citing it). That's it. That doesn't seem sufficient to cross the notability threshold. Largoplazo ( talk) 22:42, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Weak Keep It has some financial importance but needs more reliable sources. Without any Improvement with better references will be better to delete it, so my opinion is to Keep it under terms for improvements. Yakov-kobi ( talk) 11:15, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete as a journal it's indexed nowhere, thus fails WP:NJOURNALS. The rest are primary sources/industry puff pieces. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 10:36, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Xtabentum: A Novel of Yucatan

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A WP:BEFORE scan shows only one review that could count here ( this looks like a blog and doesn't read like a review), and no awards were found on Google or ProQuest to satisfy WP:NBOOK. The page links a self-published Patch.com article and a blog, which does not count. Page is an orphan with no place to redirect to. Ineligable for proposed deletion after somebody deleted a prod for a speedy deletion in 2013. -1ctinus📝 🗨 11:30, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete. Nothing else usable I found. PARAKANYAA ( talk) 09:22, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Ping User:Cunard? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
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Delete: I also found an article in a Daily Herald; it's behind a paywall and is basically just an announcement for a book reading. Otherwise, there are no reviews on common sites, including Publishers Weekly, Kirkus, Booklist, and Library Journal. Significa liberdade (she/her) ( talk) 15:07, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

Eric Sink

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A WP:BEFORE search failed to find any significant coverage of this biography article to meet WP:NBASIC. The most I could find were blog reviews of his books and interviews, which fail the threshold of significant independent sourcing. -1ctinus📝 🗨 15:01, 26 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete: A few scattered mentions, but nothing extensive found: [7] and [8]. Not enough coverage for notability here. Oaktree b ( talk) 15:51, 26 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete: There's quite a few hits on ProQuest for him, but as far as I can tell, all of them are in relation to the company SourceGear, or some other tech firm. (i.e. passing mentions that don't meet WP:SIGCOV). ARandomName123 ( talk)^{Ping me!} 04:11, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Indiana

Carefree, Indiana

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There is a "Carefree Dr" in the vicinity, but other than that there is no record of the spot on maps until it got back-added from a FIPS listing, which should almost count as a self-citation. Anyway, there's nothing there until 1998, when the main distribution warehouse of Jasper Engines was erected spang on the location. I'm guessing "Carefree" was actually someone's farm but at any rate there's no town and never was. Mangoe ( talk) 13:19, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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I found some sources that mention Carefree. November 25, 1984, Indy Star mentions Carefree in Crawford County as "the last to incorporate before the [1980] census" [9]. However, it appears there was a legal dispute of some sort about whether it was properly incorporated. -- Cerebral726 (talk) 16:07, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply

I don't suppose you can find something that defines the boundaries of this supposed town? Looking at aerials from the period, I'm not seeing anything, certainly not at the GNIS spot, until the Jasper warehouse is erected; there's some commercial stuff on the south side of the interchange, but hardly a town. At this point the thing looks like some sort of fraud, but we're stuck with nothing but very primary sources. Mangoe ( talk) 20:22, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Two more recent sources mention the town, WTHR reporting [10], and the Indy Star [11]. A veterans center nearby described it as their "Carefree location" [12]. The nearby Madison Courier also consistently describes events taking place in Carefree [13], and a magazine from the neighboring county includes references to Carefree [14]. A few obits people having been born in or lived in Carefree [15] [16]. It seems like locals consider this place to exist. Cerebral726 (talk) 14:00, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply

There's also some remnant signs of a town. An old smoke shop, a car salvage, a Carefree Truck Stop. Cerebral726 (talk) 14:18, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Well, the truck stop is mentioned in the case and appears to be the whole reason behind the incorporation attempt. I would not be surprised to learn that the other businesses in the area were also owned by incorporation petitioners. My guess is that they saw some political advantage for their businesses but screwed it up. What is quite clear is that (a) the location in GNIS is just wrong, and (b) there's no Carefree residential area: the closest thing appears to be the mobile homes that now occupy what apparently was originally supposed to be a KOA (and may have been). Before the interchange was built and the businesses appeared, there was nothing.

This is actually an interesting story for a local reporter to write up, but there's obviously more research needed, including looking at the court documents and interviewing locals. If I lived where I could get at the appropriate libraries I might consider doing it, but I'm several states away. As it is, this isn't in our purview. And I don't know how we write an article that says "not actually a town, maybe some sort of business maneuver, at any rate just a locale". Mangoe ( talk) 15:44, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Weak delete I searched the full archives of the Courier-Journal (the nearest major newspaper). Gotta love a town first mentioned in classified ads "Builder Inquiries welcome! Carefree, Indiana! A New Town with a future!" (10/28/1977) Then the same ad ran 83 more times. Then the place was mentioned five more times in classified ads in the 80s and 90s selling or renting land. This, combined with the court case mentioned above, would seem to suggest this was more of an attempted real estate development than an actual incorporated town. But people called the area Carefree for a while, perhaps because of the 1970s advertisements. Weak delete because I only looked in the one newspaper database, although that paper did write a lot about the towns in that area. -- Here2rewrite ( talk) 13:11, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Deuchars, Indiana

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This is also called "Deuchers" on some maps, not to mention on the road that passes through the spot, but there is just nothing there, and I cannot find anything except for a passing reference from the Lomaxes that they recorded some song there. Mangoe ( talk) 03:10, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Delete It's a real place as evidenced by this mention here: https://cfmb.icaap.org/content/35.3-4/BV35.3-4art2.pdf but there is nothing to write about it for an encyclopaedic article. Traumnovelle ( talk) 04:23, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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John McDonald (American football)

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Subject lacks the needed WP:SIGCOV from multiple secondary sources to meet the WP:GNG. Let'srun ( talk) 22:09, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Comment have you tried a WP:BEFORE scan on newspapers? this newspapers.com outage is killing me. -1ctinus📝 🗨 22:39, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply

I checked newspapers.com (I have a subscription) and the LOC. Let'srun ( talk) 23:27, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Mifflin, Indiana

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Another case where it appears to have been only a post office. No other info found. Mangoe ( talk) 16:48, 24 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Comment. Interestingly, there is a sign there that says "Welcome to Mifflin" [17] which was added sometime between 2007 and 2023. The restaurant that likely put it up claim the area is "Still known as Mifflin" [18] and there appears to be an article about Mifflin. -- Cerebral726 (talk) 20:11, 24 July 2024 (UTC) reply
- Update, there is an article from February 2010 from the Clarion News. Newspapers.com access for Wikimedia users seems to be down but here it is.-- Cerebral726 (talk) 20:22, 24 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  - That article alone would suggest a WP:GEOLAND pass. SportingFlyer T· C 23:57, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Pilot Knob, Indiana

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The reference given doesn't pan out per se but elsewhere in the same work it lists the place as a "postal village", which is to say, just a post office. There is nothing significant at the spot. Mangoe ( talk) 15:42, 24 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Comment I found an article describing the town from 1904 [19]. -- Cerebral726 (talk) 19:37, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Temple, Indiana

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The cited history calls this Temple Station, which is what it looks like. I'm not seeing evidence it ever actually developed into a town. Mangoe ( talk) 17:28, 23 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Comment
- A. Temple seems to have gotten "Temple" platted at least in the 1920s.
- It's on this 1950 census map.
- Post office applications in 1903 and 1933 just reiterate that it was between English and Marengo. One of the PO applicants was A. Temple.
- This history suggests it was on a historic road of pioneer days, and later supported a school and a church.

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Iowa

Ray Oberbroekling

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Subject lacks the needed WP:SIGCOV from multiple independent, reliable sources to meet the WP:GNG. This could possibly be redirected to List of Kenosha Maroons players as a WP:ATD. Let'srun ( talk) 21:54, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Redirect to 1924 Kenosha Maroons season as WP:ATD. My searches also turned up no SIGCOV. Cbl62 ( talk) 04:21, 29 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Kentucky

John McDonald (American football)

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Subject lacks the needed WP:SIGCOV from multiple secondary sources to meet the WP:GNG. Let'srun ( talk) 22:09, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Comment have you tried a WP:BEFORE scan on newspapers? this newspapers.com outage is killing me. -1ctinus📝 🗨 22:39, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply

I checked newspapers.com (I have a subscription) and the LOC. Let'srun ( talk) 23:27, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Louisiana

Greta Valenti

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None of the sources presently used establish independent notability (either due to not saying much about Valenti, or not being RS, or not being independent), and I wasn't able to find significant coverage of Greta Valenti in reliable sources, only mentions. There also seems to be COI editing in the history of the article. toweli ( talk) 15:51, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Lil Phat

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When your biggest claim to fame is a single guest appearance on a more notable rapper's ( Webbie) single and the only coverage is of your death, it's a pretty clear instance of WP:NMUSICBIO. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 00:41, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Redirect to Independent (song). Someone searching for Lil Phat in that context is pretty likely. Geschichte ( talk) 09:04, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply

2022 Shreveport mayoral election

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More electioncruft articles, except all of these are in a town that is not even in the top 100 largest towns in the United States. Not notable for the usual reasons, Wikipedia is a political database. Fails the general notability guideline, as all sources are WP:MILL in local news stations or papers. Additionally, no coverage is sustaining, failing WP:NEVENT. I am nominating the following articles as well:

2022 Shreveport mayoral election
2018 Shreveport mayoral election
2014 Shreveport mayoral election
2010 Shreveport mayoral election
2006 Shreveport mayoral election
2002 Shreveport mayoral election
1998 Shreveport mayoral election
1994 Shreveport mayoral election — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1ctinus ( talk • contribs)
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Weak keep - I'm struggling with this one. I am mostly persuaded by your argument, however, I am a sucker for well done election articles with good sources, images, graphics, etc. It may be better served at ballotpedia. I think it's worth keeping as a source of accurate information with pretty graphics. My city is a little larger than Shreveport and our mayoral election is on Wikipedia with far less information. I would't want it deleted. Perhaps a faulty reason I'm giving to keep, but I think that it just scrapes by as a source of general encyclopedia information. Bluefist^talk 02:45, 24 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Your argument against deletion seems to emphasize its inherent importance ( WP:ITSIMPORTANT). However, on Wikipedia, importance is determined by significant, independent coverage, and unfortunately, there isn't a rule that makes municipal elections automatically notable.

If you want to merge these all into a list ( mayoral elections in Green Bay, Wisconsin), I would be fine with that, but for now, we have an unmaintainable mess of hundreds of these mayoral elections without explaining their significance. -1ctinus📝 🗨 11:39, 24 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Maine

Kevin McSheehan

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fails general notability guideline. the article creator also uploaded the lead image as an "own work", so seems to be an autobiography. ltb d l ( talk) 10:40, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete astroturfed COI trash from Wikipedia on general principle. The fact that the guy does not meet the notability standards is also concerning. jp× g 🗯️ 11:21, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep: could probably use a rewrite, but there is coverage [20], [21] and this, but it's more of an interview [22]. Oaktree b ( talk) 12:07, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete he did two things, two, and the sources are a bunch of interviews about the first of those things. Not notable. win8x ( talking | spying) 12:28, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete per WP:BLP1E. Celjski Grad ( talk) 16:15, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

This is another David Gerard ( https://www.tracingwoodgrains.com/p/reliable-sources-how-wikipedia-admin) hit piece. According to #wikipedia-en IRC logs, David had Kevin blocked on Twitter, over a personal gripe, in advance of his "updates" where he removed NIST and Portswigger (Burp Suite) as sources for a Bitcoin P2P Denial-of-Service and a Slack RCE (Remote code execution) — you can query AI to see whether he meets notability guidelines altogether. And finally the NIST source evidences his X/Twitter and GitHub accounts. Anther hit piece by the infamous David Gerard who is documented as being the most corrupt Wikipedia administrator in the history of the initiative.

Review the revision history. This isn't BLP1E. Aerno ( talk) 17:38, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

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Maryland

Zobe Records

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Long list of sources consists of press releases, "articles" which upon closer inspection are paid for / press releases as well, awards of dubious notability, databases, ... Their Allmusic listings [23] have no reviews, there's even only one record with one user rating. Absolutely no sign of any notability (no better sources found online either), and likely a WP:COI creation (the only other article by same editor is Alonzo Black, presumably the father or grandfather of the founder of this record label). Fram ( talk) 16:57, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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There are record labels listed here: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_record_labels that have a lot less notability. The press releases can be removed and that is fine and understandable. Mixedmdman ( talk) 17:15, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Doing research on the initial article led to finding another topic to add. That is why there is a relation to the two articles. If you literally go to Google and type in the name of the first article you will find information about the second. I went through the guidelines and it appeared to be a topic worth an article when I compared it to other articles that are similar. Mixedmdman ( talk) 17:52, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply

I am new to Wikipedia so I'd appreciate any help on my articles instead of deleting them so that I can continue to learn and become a helpful and productive editor on the website. I welcome people to help me with the article and edit as necessary so I can see what was done wrong and I can become better. Mixedmdman ( talk) 18:26, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Delete. As far as I can tell, this doesn't meet WP:MUSIC's sense of one of the more important labels; does it have even a single notable artist signed to it? I don't know why we'd cover it if it weren't releasing any significant music. Chubbles ( talk) 08:07, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Added notability citations and information. Has been the subject of multiple published works appearing in sources that not self-published and independent of the subject. Has been on a country's national music chart. Has released albums with major record label distribution as an independent label with a history of more than a few years with a roster of multiple performers. Has won or been nominated for music awards. Has won in a music competition. Has been placed in rotation by a music network. It meets numerous criteria. Mixedmdman ( talk) 12:25, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete as promotional and possible hoax. The "Cashbox" reference is fake. So is the vsquared rocks. The Global Music Awards are not notable, and dozens of artists "win" these. Articles like the musictimes and NotjustOk references are blatant press/PR pieces. 78.26 _{(
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William J. Callahan

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:BIO. Not all senior government officials are notable enough to justify a WP article. Mentions of Callahan in WP:RS are WP:TRIVIAL related to his WP:ROUTINE job duties and not WP:SIGCOV focused on Callahan that would establish his notability. Longhornsg ( talk) 01:17, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Oppose - sufficient sources are included in the article to satisfy notability. XavierGreen ( talk) 14:56, 23 July 2024 (UTC) reply
I see little justification for deletion - he held the position. Political? OLDGUY50 ( talk) 15:24, 23 July 2024 (UTC) — OLDGUY50 ( talk) • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic reply
I also see little justification for deletion as he held the position and was within the agency for 25 plus years. 198.100.2.74 ( talk) 16:31, 23 July 2024 (UTC) — 198.100.2.74 ( talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply
Comment. So far no policy-based justification or RS presented to justify keeping. Only source with WP:SIGCOV in the article is a WP:TRIVIALMENTION and an official biography. Longhornsg ( talk) 16:37, 23 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete: "Gov't official did gov't official things". Nothing notable in his actions, nor in the coverage, which remains trivial. Both of the references fail WP:SIRS for this topic. - UtherSRG (talk) 20:08, 23 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Redirect to Director of the United States Secret Service#William J. Callahan (with the history preserved under the redirect) per Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion. In my searches for sources, I found only passing mentions about the subject. The subject does not meet Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline or Wikipedia:Notability (people). The closest additional criteria is Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Politicians and judges, but the Director of the United States Secret Service is not a politician or judge so that part of the guideline does not apply.
A redirect with the history preserved under the redirect will allow editors to selectively merge any content that can be reliably sourced to the target article. A redirect with the history preserved under the redirect will allow the redirect to be undone if significant coverage in reliable sources is found in the future. Cunard ( talk) 07:54, 25 July 2024 (UTC) reply

I support this WP:ATD. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:51, 25 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete He exists, yes. Is he notable per WP:NBIO? Clearly not. No in-depth coverage, just name drops and primary sources. Don't strongly oppose a redirect but also not sure it's desirable when there are other people of the same name who attracted media attention such as a soldier killed in Iraq AusLondonder ( talk) 17:18, 25 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete Two sources on a BLP is not notable. Felicia (talk) 17:58, 25 July 2024 (UTC) reply
- Two sources would be sufficient for a BLP to pass Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria if these two criteria were met:
  1. the two sources were independent reliable sources that provided significant coverage of the subject and
  2. the two sources did not cover the subject in the context of only one event
  The two sources in this case are either not significant coverage (the first source) or not independent (the second source) so do not establish notability. Cunard ( talk) 06:55, 26 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Comment: AusLonder raises a good point that there are other people with the same name. Instead of redirecting William J. Callahan to Director of the United States Secret Service#William J. Callahan, I propose a redirect of William J. Callahan to the disambiguation page William Callahan which can cover all of the people named William J. Callahan who are mentioned on Wikipedia. To keep the history of the new disambiguation page separate from that of the Secret Service official, the article on William J. Callahan could be moved to William J. Callahan (Secret Service)—which matches the disambiguation for another Secret Service director article, Joseph Clancy (Secret Service)—and then redirected to Director of the United States Secret Service#William J. Callahan.
I could not find the soldier killed in Iraq mentioned on Wikipedia. According to this search on "William J. Callahan", except for three articles, all of the mentions are of the Acting Director of the United States Secret Service. Those three articles are Ancient Regime of Spain (where there is a William J. Callahan who is the author of a reference), Sacco and Vanzetti (where there is a William J. Callahan who is mentioned as an attorney), and 1936 United States Senate election in New Hampshire (where there is a William J. Callahan who is mentioned as a political candidate).
Some of these people can be mentioned at William Callahan per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Disambiguation pages#Items appearing within other articles. Cunard ( talk) 06:55, 26 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete: Fails notability. Wakeupking ( talk) 19:53, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Move then redirect per Cunard. This is a very thorough and well thought-out ATD that respects page history, PRIMARYTOPIC and COMMONNAME. Bobby Cohn ( talk) 16:35, 29 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Keep for the reasons i stated above. XavierGreen ( talk) 22:15, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply
XavierGreen, you can't vote twice. Longhornsg ( talk) 23:15, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Im not voting twice, the Admin stated to clarify votes, see above. XavierGreen ( talk) 23:18, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep. Deputy director of a federal service such as the USSS in a major country, especially one who has (albeit briefly) acted as director, is clearly notable per WP:COMMONSENSE. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 10:21, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply
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Massachusetts

Jon Radoff

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Appears to fail WP:NBIO - while it does have a piece of significant coverage, the InfoWorld article, the others are just announcements and primary source interviews without substantive discussion. It does not pass WP:NARTIST either due to the fact he was just a co-developer or director of most games he made. When the article was first made it also failed NBIO and does not seem to have remedied that situation. There are a lot of minor mentions, but a lack of SIGCOV. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 05:36, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete per nom, still fails the If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability. as most of them are primary and just trivial Warm Regards, Miminity ( talk) ( contribs) 05:51, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

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Klover

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I'm not completely sure that this band is notable. I was able to find a description of the band in Trouser Press, a brief review by Robert Christgau (!), a brief review by Visions [ de, and an interview with a bit said about Klover. Edit: Wow, I didn't even notice that two of those are already linked in the article. toweli ( talk) 00:22, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Harry M. Rubin

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Upon review of article and its sources, the person in question does not meet the notability guidelines in question: the person is not (1) cited by 3rd party sources other than websites that repeat his bio as an official founder of Samuel Adams beer (2) known for originating a new concept [see point #1] (3) become a significant monument, etc. (4) He is not cited as by peers and 3rd party sources for the work that is well-known or significant. The article was written by a blocked user and could primarily serve the purpose of self promotion as defined in WP:NOTADVERT. P3D7AQ09M6 ( talk)

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Delete. This is just a CV. No notability. ApLundell ( talk) 05:01, 20 July 2024 (UTC) reply

If deleted Harry Rubin (virologist) should be moved to the base name since Harry Rubin redirects here.-- 67.70.101.117 ( talk) 23:48, 20 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Hi Folks, My apologies, I actually meant to nominate Harry Rubin (virologist) Late night editing got the best of me. Upon a 2nd look at this article in particular, I found new reputable secondary sources to that show indeed this Harry Rubin was indeed a Samuel Adams co-founder. I'm closing going to close this deletion nomination in favor of doing some work to improve the article itself. P3D7AQ09M6 ( talk) 04:28, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Maybe delete both of them.

Being a minor, behind-the-scenes partner of a business does not make someone notable.

ApLundell ( talk) 05:57, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply

In the spirit of WP:GD I'm going to suggest that we pursue a constructive alternative such as improving or cleaning up the article. Two main reasons (1) Being one of the Samuel Adams founders both within the beverage field and just generally is definitely a major contribution. It looks he was not the frontman, but, indeed, he's been recognized by multiple secondary sources as being a founder and his involvement in various beverage investments is notable enough to be topic of headlines. As you probably know, media outlets have full control over headlines, which means that these media outlets viewed his involvement as "the story". On a more basic level, Samuel Adams is also billion dollar major conglomerate, it's widely recognized, and is part of the American social milieu (2) I digged into other secondary sources and there's quite a few other significant achievements such as being one of the people who started GT Interactive, which launched DOOM (a major video game) (3) This nomination was a careless mistake on my part so it's kind of a fluke nomination. My apologies again to all for that bonehead error and for wasting folks time reviewing this!

re: Harry Rubin (virologist) Even though I intended to nominate it, I also now lean towards keeping it. Mostly because his achievements within his specific domain are quite significant.

If we deny this deletion nomination, I can take an action item to improve both pages. P3D7AQ09M6 ( talk) 22:18, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Comment: See also AFD'ed C. M. Rubin, his partner. IgelRM ( talk) 08:36, 23 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Keep: Assuming this is for Harry M. Rubin? Solid keep ... Sam Adams founding is notable + impact in AAA game studios with solid set of citations. Recommend the Harry Rubin (virologist) AFD be posted separately? John.mark1956 ( talk) 03:30, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete Not notable and written like a resume. Delete. Go4thProsper ( talk) 22:58, 29 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep for the reasons I described above. As Liz mentioned above, I think withdrawing this nomination also makes sense. P3D7AQ09M6 ( talk) 18:34, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Michigan

Prentiss M. Brown Honors Center & Astronomical Observatory

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Contested PROD. This is a non- notable building at a small liberal arts college. voorts ( talk/ contributions) 20:55, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Merge with Albion College: I don't see why this can't be a small paragraph under the article about the college. The historical plaque implies notability, but there's just not enough sourcing about this for a stand-alone article. Oaktree b ( talk) 23:06, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply
I oppose merging because all of the sourcing about the building is primary, and it would therefore be undue to add this material. If someone had straight up added this to the Albion College article instead of creating this article, I would have removed it with that rationale. voorts ( talk/ contributions) 12:01, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

I also disagree that historical plaques imply notability. They're easier to get than you'd think and often used for promotion. voorts ( talk/ contributions) 12:06, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply
Merge per Oaktree b. Walsh90210 ( talk) 23:54, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply
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Shimul Javeri Kadri

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Notability issues and significance issues.

Other than the subject being an owner of some architecture firm. Appears non-notable. Thewikizoomer ( talk) 19:41, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Keep I find coverage of her in two books covering architects in India, and I have added these sources to the article. The sources already present in the article indicate broad coverage of her work. DaffodilOcean ( talk) 15:48, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Haz al-Din

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Subject fails WP:GNG. Most sources are links to social media sites (specifically YouTube and X) which aren't reliable. Also, COI issues are evident and possible self-promotion. CycloneYoris ^talk! 21:45, 25 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete Nearly all of the current references are social media links which are pretty useless for a WP:BLP. The only ref I could find is from the Guardian [24]. I haven't spent hours searching for WP:RS. I would suggest this person fails WP:N WP:SIGCOV or WP:BIO. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knitsey ( talk • contribs) 22:08, 25 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete - Obvious issues with notability, and the vast majority of the sources are directly from the subject's social media, and by no means are reliable. This article also suffers from clear political bias and MOS:PUFFERY (e.g. "He is renowned..."). The author also appears to be clearly invested in this topic and possess a conflict of interest. SociusMono1976 ( talk) 23:00, 25 July 2024 (UTC) reply
While this is somewhat separate from the content of this article (and therefore this should not be seen as a !vote), it's worth noting that this article was created by a user who repeatedly is seeking to recreate the page of a non-notable political party deleted at AfD, and has now instead pivoted to one about its founder (while again recreating the deleted one in two different new pages...).-- Yaksar (let's chat) 23:16, 25 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete Page appears to have been created as an alternative workaround after other attempts to circumvent a page deleted at AfD were removed. That being said, I agree with the !votes above regarding the current sourcing (but am open to revising that pending different sources and after further research).-- Yaksar (let's chat) 00:07, 26 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete: Best I can find are a mention here [25] and here [26]. Daily Kos isn't a RS, the ADL was up for discussion for reliability recently... Regardless, two mentions don't work for RS and what's used in the article is primary/social media. Nothing we can use to prove notability. Oaktree b ( talk) 03:07, 26 July 2024 (UTC) reply
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Delete: Notability is not a matter of what the person says about themselves, nor even what their friends say about them. Notability is a matter of what independent sources have to say. Gronk Oz ( talk) 06:01, 26 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete: spectacularly fails N and GNG. Stanley Joseph Wilkins ( talk) 06:13, 26 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Delete: per above. That subject doesn't have enough notability in different reliable sources.

Ahri Boy ( talk) 01:51, 27 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Delete - per proposer. The one source that isn't YouTube, X or the American Communist Party website doesn't even come close to being reliable. Furthermore, the creator of this article is suspected to be a sock of an editor p-blocked for repeatedly recreating the ACP article against consensus. MiasmaEternal ☎ 03:31, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Delete - per WP:SNOW. I also add that there are many such influencers who have gotten lots of clicks but no coverage in reliable sources. Bearian ( talk) 03:12, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

Marc Cayce

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Highly promotional page for non-notable director, recreated and moved to mainspace after soft deletion in 2023. No evidence that he passes WP:GNG, WP:NBIO, or WP:FILMMAKER. There is no evidence beyond WP:USERGENERATED IMDb that he co-directed Trapped: Haitian Nights, the one notable production in his filmography, or that his direct-to-video "A Day of Trouble" premiered at Cannes. Sources are all press releases, WP:INTERVIEWS and similar primary sources, as well as a handful of tabloid items disallowed for notability under WP:SBST. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 16:53, 22 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete: Hardly any coverage of his career, some confirmation here in regards to a sexual assault allegation [27], which doesn't help notability (beyond confirming his work). The sources used in the article are as described by the nom, non-helpful. Vaguely PROMO as well. Oaktree b ( talk) 21:34, 22 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Minnesota

Luke Hellier

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Fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. Generally, just being a mayor doesn’t inherently makes Hellier notable, and no evidence of passing WP:ANYBIO or WP:GNG. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 17:54, 29 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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I vote that we do not delete. I have updated the article with multiple references to sources showing he has been covered multiple times in various publications. Ajthom90 ( talk) 16:11, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

Adrian Baril

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After extensive searching for WP:SIGCOV in multiple newspaper archives, I believe the subject lacks the coverage needed to meet the WP:GNG. This obit [ [28]] is rather short and doesn't make mention of his NFL career. Besides the obit, there are some passing/routine mentions like [ [29]], [ [30]], [ [31]] and [ [32]] but from what I see it is all trivial. While the subject played 16 NFL games, they took place in the early years of the league when the popularity of the league was nowhere near what it is today. I don't see a clear WP:ATD here but am open to the possibility. Let'srun ( talk) 00:08, 25 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete. The early years of NFL were so different from NFL in the 1960s–on as to be totally different enterprises. It's not surprising that no SIGCOV exists and that his participation wasn't even noteworthy enough to include in his obit. JoelleJay ( talk) 00:00, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

I don't have the time currently took look for sources for this (plus the Newspapers.com outage). Could we draftify this like we did for Ainer Cleve? BeanieFan11 ( talk) 00:49, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

Minnesota Proposed deletions

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Mississippi

Suicide of Aubreigh Wyatt

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Young Ms Wyatt's suicide is a tragedy, but outside of sensational coverage, it is not notable. The event has no long-term impact. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:44, 29 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete: I agree that a standalone article is not warranted; perhaps merge with Ocean Springs School District? – Skywatcher68 ( talk) 19:31, 29 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Comment @ Skywatcher68: Perhaps, but given the lightness of the OSSD article, I think any mention of this given case would give it WP:UNDUE weight within the overall context of the article. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 19:33, 29 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Delete. I agree with everything that WikiDan61 has said. The incident is not notable enough to have its own article, and to give coverage in the school district's article to this one incident out of the entire history of the school district would be grossly disproportionate. JBW ( talk) 20:24, 29 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Delete per nom, this seems to be not notable enough for an article Warm Regards, Miminity ( talk) ( contribs) 13:01, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply

DO NOT DELETE: This article should actually be expanded on. This story has generated a grass roots movement in the social media world equal to that of Amber Rene Hagermanm (Amber Alert), Adam Walsh (Crime Stoppers), and more recently JonBenét Ramsey. These stories are a distinct sign of the times and mark the social change that is unfolding in real time across the country. This article will grow as this story unfolds over the next sever days maybe even years. Most notable is the 7/31 & 8/01 wear pink show of solidarity against bullying.

P.S. I'm the 5th person to weigh in on this in 24 hours. Obviously there is some interest in this story. 75.175.175.10 ( talk) 23:01, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply

The number of people weighing in on a deletion discussion is of less than no consequence to whether an article should be kept or not. Also, if the grassroots movement you claim exists, surely you can provide some sort of sourcing to back it up? Ham tech person 23:58, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Missouri

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August 2016 Western United States wildfires

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The page is currently 2 sentences long, and doesn't meet WP:NOTABLE. Sir MemeGod ._. ( talk - contribs - created articles) 04:07, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

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Nebraska

Nevada

August 2016 Western United States wildfires

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The page is currently 2 sentences long, and doesn't meet WP:NOTABLE. Sir MemeGod ._. ( talk - contribs - created articles) 04:07, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

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Appointment Trader

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Looks like a promotioin and the platform doesn't seem significant enough. Thewikizoomer ( talk) 17:54, 27 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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New Hampshire

Kevin McSheehan

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fails general notability guideline. the article creator also uploaded the lead image as an "own work", so seems to be an autobiography. ltb d l ( talk) 10:40, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete astroturfed COI trash from Wikipedia on general principle. The fact that the guy does not meet the notability standards is also concerning. jp× g 🗯️ 11:21, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep: could probably use a rewrite, but there is coverage [33], [34] and this, but it's more of an interview [35]. Oaktree b ( talk) 12:07, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete he did two things, two, and the sources are a bunch of interviews about the first of those things. Not notable. win8x ( talking | spying) 12:28, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete per WP:BLP1E. Celjski Grad ( talk) 16:15, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

This is another David Gerard ( https://www.tracingwoodgrains.com/p/reliable-sources-how-wikipedia-admin) hit piece. According to #wikipedia-en IRC logs, David had Kevin blocked on Twitter, over a personal gripe, in advance of his "updates" where he removed NIST and Portswigger (Burp Suite) as sources for a Bitcoin P2P Denial-of-Service and a Slack RCE (Remote code execution) — you can query AI to see whether he meets notability guidelines altogether. And finally the NIST source evidences his X/Twitter and GitHub accounts. Anther hit piece by the infamous David Gerard who is documented as being the most corrupt Wikipedia administrator in the history of the initiative.

Review the revision history. This isn't BLP1E. Aerno ( talk) 17:38, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

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New Jersey

Yorktel

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Lack of notability established with WP:RS Amigao ( talk) 03:02, 26 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Which sources are unreliable? BarnyardWill ( talk) 21:20, 29 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Survay Says!

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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. I can find some reviews, but they're from non-RS. toweli ( talk) 16:00, 25 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete couldn't find significant coverage. There's a lot of stray mentions/concert listings in small local press, but nothing satisfying the in-depth criterion. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^talk 17:02, 29 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Matthew Silver (performance artist)

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Man got wrote up in local papers a few times--this is not enough for notability by our standards. Drmies ( talk) 22:48, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply

note: This article was created ten years ago, WP:PRODded, and recently undeleted as a result of user interest at Wikicurious: Editing Wikipedia for Beginners @ Civic Hall; it was just undeleted, and as far as I know no one had time to add anything from the past 10 years to it, nor has the person who asked for its undeletion seem to have made any changes to it yet. I've added a few links just now but I imagine there are more, as he is still getting coverage, both local and national. Was there a lack of WP:BEFORE? Tduk ( talk) 23:32, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply

There certainly is a lack of clarity in the history, and a paucity of decent references in noteworthy publications. BTW NONE of that is very clear from the history, and I'm wondering if User:GiantSnowman wouldn't have done better to restore it to draft space. As for BEFORE--well, a Google News search really gives no reason to believe this is a notable subject. Drmies ( talk) 01:14, 22 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Feel free to draftify. Giant Snowman 19:52, 22 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Comment. This article was essentially just 12 hours old when it was nominated for deletion. And the editor who requested undeletion ( User:WillStopUrThemeSong) hasn't even had a chance to expand it yet (disclosure: I was with Tduk at the same edit-a-thon event and also encouraged the user to do this, they appear to be a perfectly good faith editor who knows about secondary sources etc. and thought they existed). This nomination seems premature - a notability tag and an encouragement to the restoring editor to make sure they get to improving the article would have been better. (Maybe this is an argument to have restored the article to draft space first, but eh, given that it was in the mainspace before and prods are overturned on essentially any objection, I think the direct restoral to mainspace is fine.) See Wikipedia:Don't demolish the house while it's still being built. SnowFire ( talk) 23:45, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply
- SnowFire, the history does not reflect that. Drmies ( talk) 01:05, 22 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  - My statement is correct. The article was formerly at Matthew Silver and was deleted for 10 years from 2014-2024, you can see this in the logs. If you had clicked on WillStopUrThemeSong's contributions, you could see User_talk:GiantSnowman#Matthew_Silver_Article_Restoration where WillStopUrThemeSong requested undeletion so the article could be expanded. Wikipedia isn't a job, it's completely unreasonable to expect that a user requesting this kind of undeletion be ready to pounce within the hour on the article after undeletion to make the desired upgrades and expansion - it's out of a requesting user's hands when precisely the deleting admin will restore the prod. Hypothetically someone requesting undeletion of a prod could have FA-level, perfectly cited content available, but them not editing it in immediately on a Sunday doesn't mean anything. SnowFire ( talk) 01:22, 22 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  - Also, on the "12 hours" part - GiantSnowman restored at 06:41 UTC, and you nominated for AFD at 18:48. That simply isn't enough time, especially when the requestor has not made an intervening edit. Like I suggested above, if you thought the article was still deficient, a notability tag would have been a more reasonable way to express this concern, which would allow the requestor time to actually update the article. SnowFire ( talk) 01:32, 22 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep: With the links Tduk added, I feel this is a WP:GNG pass now with enough significant coverage, including some national. Bsoyka ( t • c • g) 23:47, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply
- The most recent link was a "know your meme" link from 2017. Drmies ( talk) 01:14, 22 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  I added some more recent sources; really I was trying to do as little work as possible as this article was revived as part of an editing event, and I wanted it to be used as to encourage a newtime editor and educate on how to bring an article's quality up. Tduk ( talk) 02:33, 22 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete: Seems he's still an artist [36], but that doesn't prove notability here. The sourcing used in the article is about what I can find, the Rolling Stone piece being the best one. Interesting bit of local history, but I don't see GNG. Oaktree b ( talk) 03:12, 22 July 2024 (UTC) reply
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Delete. Could be draftified, but still leaning towards delete, because even if it is draftified, it may still not meet WP:SIGCOV; the sources still do not seem to independent and reliable enough, based on RS Noticeboard Archives. Prof.PMarini ( talk) 10:33, 22 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete Describing someone as "a man who runs around NYC in his underwear saying and doing radical things" covers at least 8-10% of the city's population, and the numbers are often much higher during the summer. Any particular underwear-based street-performing radical-saying individual would need more in-depth reliable and verifiable sources than what's listed in the article. Alansohn ( talk) 12:09, 22 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Comment: I've added even more sources. Bsoyka ( t • c • g) 16:58, 22 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep Matthew Silver is a well-known artist and is covered by major media. His street performances and media presence meet wp:p standards for notability. Yakov-kobi ( talk) 08:40, 23 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep I feel that with the more recent, less local sources, which are about him specifically, the article is more substantial than when it was nominated. Tduk ( talk) 11:25, 26 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep. My previous comment was more procedural that the article should have had more time before being AFD'd, so on the merits... I think Bsoyka's additions suggest that this is certainly on the keepable side. Maybe running around in underwear is silly, but if the press sees fit to write it up, that's still meeting WP:N, and Rolling Stone shows this isn't just local papers (but local papers count too!). SnowFire ( talk) 14:42, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Keep. The current version of the article shows sufficient coverage by secondary sources, in particular Rolling Stone producing a documentary short. BrightVamp ( talk) 23:50, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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North Carolina

Justin Willis (soccer)

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Article about former soccer player which comprehensively fails WP:GNG. There is a batch of match reports, press releases from his employers/university, an interview with the subject on a blogpost (none of which are significant coverage in reliable sources). The very best coverage I could find consisted of a single sentence in The News & Observer [37] which is well below any concept of significant coverage. A PROD was removed without making any effort to find SIGCOV. Jogurney ( talk) 15:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:48, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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North Dakota

List of presidential visits to North Dakota

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This appears to be the only such list of trips made by the US president to a specific state. Cannot see how it meets the criteria at WP:NLIST. AusLondonder ( talk) 05:38, 26 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete per nom (although it is indisputable that North Dakota is the center of the universe). Clarityfiend ( talk) 23:18, 26 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Comment Category:Lists of United States presidential visits and Lists of United States presidential trips show this is the only state listed. List of United States presidential visits to Puerto Rico should probably be included in this nomination. Dream Focus 01:32, 27 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete per nom. SpacedFarmer ( talk) 23:36, 29 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Ohio

Loft Theatre

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The only coverage that I can find are announcements about the company from Dayton, Ohio sources which fails WP:CORP, including WP:AUD. A company that performs there is at AfD as well - Human Race Theatre Company. SL93 ( talk) 23:11, 26 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete for lack of notability and significant coverage. Prof.PMarini ( talk) 08:46, 27 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Comment: This should be evaluated as a nonprofit rather than a corporation. It is part of the Arts Center Foundation in Ohio. See https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_oh/723826 Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 06:00, 28 July 2024 (UTC) Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 06:00, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Eastmain Ok. Per WP:NONPROFIT, it doesn't meet "The scope of their activities is national or international in scale." with the local coverage that I have been able to find. SL93 ( talk) 15:40, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Human Race Theatre Company

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The only coverage that I can find are announcements about the company from Dayton, Ohio sources which fails WP:CORP, including WP:AUD. SL93 ( talk) 23:05, 26 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete. No significant coverage to prove notability. Prof.PMarini ( talk) 08:56, 27 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Comment: This should be evaluated as a nonprofit rather than a corporation. Its legal name is The Human Race, Inc. See the Open Corporates page about the theatre company at https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_oh/678078 Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 07:12, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Ara Najarian

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Non-notable local official. His city council position doesn't satisfy NPOL and he doesn't seem to meet GNG otherwise. Of the 6 sources cited on the page: one is his page on a database of registered lawyers, one is the Ohio Birth Index, one is his resume, one is his campaign website, and one is his bio on the city of Glendale's official website; the only actual news article cited is a WP:ROTM article about an election he ran in. I can't really find anything better on Google. BottleOfChocolateMilk ( talk) 00:49, 18 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Delete: Purely local coverage [38], [39], confirmation of election wins. Nothing beyond routine coverage. Oaktree b ( talk) 01:10, 18 July 2024 (UTC) reply
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Keep and keep improving. Easily meets WP:BASIC and likely WP:GNG. (And a little worried that there has been insufficient WP:BEFORE, possibly because there is also a Los Angeles Times sports writer with the same name, so it generates a ton of irrelevant coverage if you don't use additional search parameters.) Najarian has been vocal about advocating Armenian-American issues – Glendale has one of the largest Armenian communities outside Armenia (and this Los Angeles Times article where he is quoted is just the tip of the iceberg) – and an initial 15-minute search yielded coverage of his meetings with the prime minister of Armenia, and he is also frequently covered in the Armenian-American community press extending beyond Glendale. It will take a long time to sort through all the coverage to identify the "best 3", but this is more a case of having to spend time to search, sort, assess and improve, rather than agonizing that this four-time mayor and councilmember of Glendale has been completely ignored by the media outside of Glendale.) Cielquiparle ( talk) 06:10, 18 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Here is another one: "Najarian gets presidential welcome in Armenia" which appeared in both the Los Angeles Times and the Glendale News-Press. Cielquiparle ( talk) 06:23, 18 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Not every local official is automatically notable. IT's absolutely worth pointing out that he's received no coverage outside of Glendale. His meeting with the president of Armenia helps, but it doesn't automatically entitle him to a Wikipedia page (even if this meeting was extremely notable, which doesn't seem to be the case, it still wouldn't make Najarian himself notable, per WP:1E). Him being "mentioned" in an LA Times article is also not especially convincing. BottleOfChocolateMilk ( talk) 02:26, 19 July 2024 (UTC) reply

That's hardly WP:1E if his official visits to Armenia were covered in both 2010 and 2018. Anyway in future I would recommend trying search engines other than Google. A quick Google search will tell you it doesn't function very well anymore as a search engine. Cielquiparle ( talk) 03:17, 19 July 2024 (UTC) reply

One can find articles that are more in-depth than mentions by searching site:latimes.com "ara najarian" on Google, such as Ara Najarian tapped as Glendale mayor for the fourth time. toweli ( talk) 03:30, 19 July 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Toweli: I wouldn't call that "in-depth" coverage, it's a pretty short article about him becoming mayor. Seems pretty run of the mill to me. BottleOfChocolateMilk ( talk) 04:58, 19 July 2024 (UTC) reply

I didn't say that it was in-depth, I said that it was more in-depth than mentions. I'm not sure whether he's notable or not, because I haven't really looked much. That's why I didn't write "keep". toweli ( talk) 05:01, 19 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Fair enough BottleOfChocolateMilk ( talk) 05:07, 19 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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August 2016 Western United States wildfires

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The page is currently 2 sentences long, and doesn't meet WP:NOTABLE. Sir MemeGod ._. ( talk - contribs - created articles) 04:07, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

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Baronial Order of Magna Charta

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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. Presently, the only references in the article are non-independent. toweli ( talk) 17:03, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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The Evan Anthem

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Does not pass Notability standards for people or artist/musicians. They additionally haven't been active in years so I don't foresee this changing. Moritoriko ( talk) 01:04, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete: Social media and streaming sites are all there is, I don't find any media coverage of the band. What's now used for sourcing in the article is unhelpful. Oaktree b ( talk) 02:00, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Delete - There is no WP:SIGCOV for it Warm Regards, Miminity ( talk) ( contribs) 13:17, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply

1977 Allentown mayoral election

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Okay, this will be thorough on this one, since lots of these mayoral election deletions have ended as trainwrecks for me. This article is a vialation of WP:NEVENT, as it fails to have significant lasting coverage that fails to qualify. THERE IS NO AUTOMATIC NOTABILITY FOR MAYORAL ELECTIONS, as shown here, here, here, here, and here of articles of similar size or larger to Allentown.

A quick WP:BEFORE fails to find any significant lasting coverage as well on Google or ProQuest.

Now, it looks like the article is long, so it must have good sources? Not to establish notability. Let's see if any of these sources match the description of "An event is presumed to be notable if it has lasting major consequences or affects a major geographical scope, or receives significant non-routine coverage that persists over a period of time. Coverage should be in multiple reliable sources with national or global scope." per WP:EVENT.

Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
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https://www.mcall.com/2016/10/14/frank-fischl-decorated-air-force-pilot-and-former-allentown-mayor-dies-at-89/	~		Local obituary, mentions the election for a single sentence	✘ No
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/284052961/	~		WP:ROUTINE mill coverage about a TV program/debate	✘ No
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/280057542/	~	?	WP:PRIMARY	✘ No
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/08/12/Political-contribution-from-the-grave/1905366436800/			No coverage at all? The citation says "Daddona's unsuccessful 1969 campaign", not 1977. Either way, its barely lasting coverage, just an offhand sentence in a UPI article.	✘ No
https://www.mcall.com/2004/12/12/whatever-became-of-former-allentown-mayor-frank-fischl/			Scope of the coverage of the election in the article is "Fischl beat out incumbent Joe Daddona. Daddona later succeeded Fischl, who didn’t seek a second term.". While it is lasting, this is not significant.	✘ No
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/283995190/			NOT ABOUT THE ELECTION, BUT ABOUT FISCH DECLINING TO RERUN	✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{ source assess table}}.

If deletion seems too much, I propose two alternatives:

Merge all the Allentown mayoral election articles for future maintainability and navigability
(which is better in my opinion). Redirect to Frank Fischl, which most of the coverage seems to be on.

Before I end, a quick note to administrators and voters: please remember to use actual Wikipedia policy instead of using or endorsing arguments like "I like Pennsylvania history, so this must be important" or "this is useful information". These are both arguments to avoid in deletion discussions. Wikipedia is not a database, or an indiscriminate collection of information. I am limiting this to one article at a time to avoid a trainwreck nomination. -1ctinus📝 🗨 19:05, 29 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Oppose on precedent you can't just delete one of the Allentown elections. you'd have to delete all of them. Scu ba ( talk) 03:26, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply
I’m trying to avoid a WP:TRAINWRECK and a procedural close. This happened previously -1ctinus📝 🗨 04:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Still doesn't change the fact that as an Allentown election, it is notable enough to warrant a page. You'd have to challenge Allentown, the third largest city in Pennsylvania, as not being notable enough to have it's election pages exist. Scu ba ( talk) 00:15, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Scu ba: I don't agree with that at all. It is appropriate to evaluate each election article on its own merits. AusLondonder ( talk) 15:04, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply
regardless of it's current citations, Allentown is the third largest city in Pennslyvania and as due to this it's elections are notable enough to warrant a page. should we go and delete the 2009, 1997, 1993 or really any pre 21st century buffalo election pages? Deleting election pages for major municipalities breaks precedent. Scu ba ( talk) 00:14, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply
I listed articles that clearly show that there is no precedent for municipal elections to be inherently notable in the top. -1ctinus📝 🗨 00:19, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply
The elections you listed where for minor cities, such as Fontana, California, which is the 21st largest city in California. Allentown is the 3rd largest city in Pennslyvania. There is no consensus that minor towns elections are notable enough, however, major cities warrant their elections having pages. Scu ba ( talk) 00:44, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Fontana CA is still a larger town than Allentown by over 90,000 residents. -1ctinus📝 🗨 01:03, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply

(and the answer for the Buffalo elections is they probably aren’t notable if they lack significant coverage.) -1ctinus📝 🗨 00:35, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply
No. they're notable because they're elections in Buffalo, the 2nd largest city in NY. Scu ba ( talk) 00:44, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Which policy states that an election is notable automatically because it’s a large city? There is none to my knowledge. -1ctinus📝 🗨 01:02, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Naomi Biden

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The sources, in order:

1. Less-than-exemplary fast facts article about Naomi in Town & Country

2. List of Joe Biden's seven grandchildren, including Naomi, with fast facts in People

3. Celebrity wedding coverage from Cosmopolitan

4. Passing coverage

5. Wedding coverage

6. Wedding coverage

7. Wedding coverage

8. Apparently the same Town & Country fast facts article as #1

9. Passing coverage

10. Passing coverage

11. Wedding coverage (interview)

12. Celebrity gossip in People (coverage of Naomi being in the Hamptons with Tiffany Trump)

13. Coverage of her and Tiffany graduating college

14. Wedding coverage

15. White House press release

16. Wedding coverage

17. Today Show interview with relatives about Joe Biden

18. Wedding coverage

19. White House press release about wedding

20. Wedding coverage

21. Passing mention in coverage of weddings

22. Wedding coverage

23. Juror says Naomi shouldn't have had to testify against Hunter

So, overall, it would appear that Naomi has done little else to gather press coverage than get married. Lots of rich people get married in ceremonies whose rich and famous guests attract gossipy press. That doesn't establish notability. ꧁ Zanahary꧂ 05:36, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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And see the similar Articles for deletion/Finnegan Biden ꧁ Zanahary꧂ 05:53, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep as clearly more notable than Finnegan. Was Finnegan reported in the press for being school chums with a Trump whelp? Did Finnegan testify the trial of Hunter Biden? was Finnegan the first in history to marry on the south lawn of the White House? Hyperbolick ( talk) 09:27, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete. clearly only famous by being related to biden. is not notable on her own and publishing wedding info feels like wp:GOSSIP Bluethricecreamman ( talk) 19:27, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Comment I'm not going to push for a keep or delete but if this gets deleted, I don't see many reasons for keeping the page for Tiffany Trump. Killuminator ( talk) 22:18, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply

2009 Lancaster, Pennsylvania, mayoral election

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Same as usual mayoral election results. Easily fails WP:NEVENT, Lancaster only has a population of ~60,000. Last mayoral election I will be doing for a while, as I don't want to overbear everything with more articles. Allentown will be next. -1ctinus📝 🗨 01:01, 23 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete per nom. Fails WP:NEVENT. Sal2100 ( talk) 14:48, 23 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete: due to its failure to meet the standards set by WP:NEVENT. The city in question is small, with less than 60,000 souls. Thus, we need to find sources beyond routine reports before we even start writing. This election, lacking concrete, lasting effects on the people living in the city, and receiving little media attention, likely does not need its own article.-- AstridMitch ( talk) 17:56, 23 July 2024 (UTC) reply
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Keep - add to Pennsylvania's state political history. The article's inclusion is a positive, not a negative. Scanlan ( talk) 17:05, 29 July 2024 (UTC) reply
I would advise that you read WP:ITSUSEFUL.

"Stating that something is useful in a vacuum does not help assess its encyclopedic value. You need to say why something is useful or useless. This way, other editors can judge whether it's useful and encyclopedic according to Wikipedia's policies. Arguments of something's usefulness, uselessness, or value devoid of further context are not valid or persuasive."

Articles like these lead to hundreds of unmaintainable mayoral election stubs without claims to notability that clog up the site. -1ctinus📝 🗨 17:48, 29 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Puerto Rico

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Marc Douglas Berardo

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None of the sources here are ones I know to be reliable, and most appear to be small/local coverage. Nothing else here suggests an NBAND pass. One of his albums is already up for a separate AfD as well. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 12:00, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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No Depression is reliable source. It is a highly respected music magazine. MarySue Twohy is program director at Sirius XM. Folk Dj is a international organization with a radio station It's part of Folk Alliance International. I believe he meets the criteria for having a single on national music chart if you consider Folk Alliance International https://www.folkradio.org/ Currently his new record is currently #24 on this chart. Two of his vidoes for singles were reviewed by Americana Highways, another respectable music publication although they are not listed in this article. The festivals that he won or was finalist are national competitions Lyle Lovett and Nanci Griffith were finalists at Kerrville. Most of the other references such as who he performed with were added to support a statement as being true. I agree it needs to be updated, but I not deleted. Performer Research ( talk) 16:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

I don't think Folk Alliance International would be considered a valid chart as I would assume it falls under SINGLEVENDOR. No Depression should be reliable and Americana Highways is as far as I know (bit surprised to see neither listed at RSMUSIC), but it's still a bit limited. This could be turned around though. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 18:39, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

It would also help if you could link to the Americana Highways articles and any others you bring up that aren't already present. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 18:53, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Hi I am not sure if FAI would be a single vendor. I am not quite understanding the definition. I am looking further into it. I am in the process of updating this page. It will take me a few days since it has not been updated in quite awhile. If there are other suggestions on making this page more compliant, I welcome them. Thank you. Performer Research ( talk) 00:20, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Further on Tomorrow

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I couldn't find sources to add confirming it meets WP:NALBUM / WP:GNG. Boleyn ( talk) 16:12, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Redirect to Marc Douglas Berardo: I also found no additional coverage. In fact, I found nothing that suggests that Bernardo himself is notable, and I launched a separate AfD for his page. If that page is kept, this should be redirected there; if that page is deleted then the redirect will be speedied. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 12:03, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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South Dakota

Tennessee

Brock Berryhill

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Found no coverage of the artist beyond the one MusicRow article already present. Passing mentions for credits on notable musicians' songs does not make notability here. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 02:11, 19 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Heard Natural Science Museum and Wildlife Sanctuary

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Does not meet WP:NCORP. A small nature preserve and museum in Texas without national or state-wide coverage. The refs are all either self-published (company website), or routine local coverage in the D/FW area. Looking at the edit history, it was mostly written by Sanctuary.p, which appears to be an account affiliated with the museum, based on its name and only having contributed to this article. Article appears to be promotional in tone. HertzDonuts ( talk) 18:39, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Oppose (strong). I'm finding plenty of news coverage of Heard Museum in Texas newspapers going back to the founding in the 1960s; they are known for their raptor rehabilitation work (" Birds of Prey Find Sanctuary"), and this institutional is notable enough to be included in directories of local tourist attractions. I believe this local natural history museum meets notability guidelines and should be improved not deleted. jengod ( talk) 18:19, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

Tammy Tran

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Content is primarily promotional. Fails WP:GNG & WP:BIO. Lacks significant coverage in reliable, secondary sources. Geoff | ^{Who, me?} 17:37, 29 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Hi, can you please guide me what changes can i do so the article of deleting could be remove from my article Naqqash6 ( talk) 18:12, 29 July 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Naqqash6, did you check the links under "New to Articles for deletion (AfD)? Read these primers!"? Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 19:06, 29 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete: The best source is The Atlantic which might meet SIGCOV but most of it is based on what she says and one source is not enough. The other sources are primary, brief mentions and/or her comments. S0091 ( talk) 18:45, 29 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Delete per current sourcing. The Atlantic helps towards WP:N (there's a lot of "she says", but IMO it still counts), maybe the NYT paragraph helps a little, but that seems to be it for WP:N. Also, in a WP-article, it's not "Tammy" in running text, it's "Tran" (like in The Atlantic). Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 18:53, 29 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete A lawyer who started a law firm and has clients is not notable. David notMD ( talk) 21:38, 29 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Lil Phat

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When your biggest claim to fame is a single guest appearance on a more notable rapper's ( Webbie) single and the only coverage is of your death, it's a pretty clear instance of WP:NMUSICBIO. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 00:41, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Redirect to Independent (song). Someone searching for Lil Phat in that context is pretty likely. Geschichte ( talk) 09:04, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Carll Goodpasture

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I have been looking for third party references to support this article but can find none, especially on the exhibitions and grants and awards categories. In addition, there are no references, other than links to primary sources from the subject person. I believe this is not notable and falls under under WP:NOTPUBLICFIGURE / WP:PRIMARY, and may violate WP:BASIC / WP:PHOTOGRAPHER / WP:AUTO. Maybe, if no references apply, the subject could be inserted into a relevant American photographer article. Shotgunheist ^💬 04:51, 27 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete Couldn't find any significant independent coverage. Sources discussing subject were primary (Smithsonian, gallery sites, etc.). 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 01:39, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Domonique Ramirez

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WP:BLP1E applies here, as there is no coverage present for this subject outside of a brief and non-significant controversy from a minor beauty pageant. Let'srun ( talk) 14:26, 24 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Utah

Vermont

Virginia

Virginia proposed deletions

Washington

August 2016 Western United States wildfires

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The page is currently 2 sentences long, and doesn't meet WP:NOTABLE. Sir MemeGod ._. ( talk - contribs - created articles) 04:07, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

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Redirect to List of wildfires#Canada and the United States. per WP:NOTNEWS, it has no WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE Warm Regards, Miminity ( talk) ( contribs) 04:17, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

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Wordfarm

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Delete Does not meet WP:GNG. One of the reference is the company website and the other one seems more like a listing in Poets and Writers which is behind a paywall. Searches also don’t show any significant coverage. Wikilover3509 ( talk) 08:26, 25 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete. Does not meet notability and significant coverage requirements. Prof.PMarini ( talk) 11:26, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete This is a company therefore GNG/ WP:NCORP requires at least two deep or significant sources with each source containing "Independent Content" showing in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. I'm unable to identify any references that meet the criteria for establishing notability. HighKing⁺⁺ 17:16, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete - per above. The article is somewhat misleading, because some of the blue links to authors are not notable themselves. In several cases, there are red links. Is this a “walled garden”? Bearian ( talk) 03:29, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

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Iikka Keränen

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Doesn't appear notable, redirect to Digital Eel? IgelRM ( talk) 19:08, 21 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Redirect as above or to Doom modding#Commercial WADs. Doesn't meet WP:GNG. Tau Corvi ( talk) 19:20, 22 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Redirect to Digital Eel. Both are good redirect targets but I prefer this one. -- Mika1h ( talk) 15:22, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Deletion Review

Washington, D.C.

Naomi Biden

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The sources, in order:

1. Less-than-exemplary fast facts article about Naomi in Town & Country

2. List of Joe Biden's seven grandchildren, including Naomi, with fast facts in People

3. Celebrity wedding coverage from Cosmopolitan

4. Passing coverage

5. Wedding coverage

6. Wedding coverage

7. Wedding coverage

8. Apparently the same Town & Country fast facts article as #1

9. Passing coverage

10. Passing coverage

11. Wedding coverage (interview)

12. Celebrity gossip in People (coverage of Naomi being in the Hamptons with Tiffany Trump)

13. Coverage of her and Tiffany graduating college

14. Wedding coverage

15. White House press release

16. Wedding coverage

17. Today Show interview with relatives about Joe Biden

18. Wedding coverage

19. White House press release about wedding

20. Wedding coverage

21. Passing mention in coverage of weddings

22. Wedding coverage

23. Juror says Naomi shouldn't have had to testify against Hunter

So, overall, it would appear that Naomi has done little else to gather press coverage than get married. Lots of rich people get married in ceremonies whose rich and famous guests attract gossipy press. That doesn't establish notability. ꧁ Zanahary꧂ 05:36, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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And see the similar Articles for deletion/Finnegan Biden ꧁ Zanahary꧂ 05:53, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep as clearly more notable than Finnegan. Was Finnegan reported in the press for being school chums with a Trump whelp? Did Finnegan testify the trial of Hunter Biden? was Finnegan the first in history to marry on the south lawn of the White House? Hyperbolick ( talk) 09:27, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete. clearly only famous by being related to biden. is not notable on her own and publishing wedding info feels like wp:GOSSIP Bluethricecreamman ( talk) 19:27, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Comment I'm not going to push for a keep or delete but if this gets deleted, I don't see many reasons for keeping the page for Tiffany Trump. Killuminator ( talk) 22:18, 31 July 2024 (UTC) reply

International Franchise Association

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Article was previously deleted in 2013 after an AfD. Recreated in 2020. I don't see any reason to dispute the result of that AfD; there is still little in-depth coverage cited on this page. Outside of the Supreme Court case (which appears to have been sparsely covered), the only coverage is a few mentions from minor trade publications. I tried looking for more on Google, but all I could find were press releases. BottleOfChocolateMilk ( talk) 02:13, 19 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Delete: In-depth coverage from independent and reliable sources is needed to meet WP:GNG. Its small role in a Supreme Court case does not make it notable.-- AstridMitch ( talk) 04:48, 19 July 2024 (UTC) reply
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West Virginia

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Annu Navani

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Fails WP:NACADEMIC or WP:GNG. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 10:05, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete. Agree that an h-index of 11 and a total of 952 citations is insufficient for WP:NPROF in medical sciences. -- asilvering ( talk) 17:52, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

Randy Bryce

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This article was previously nominated for deletion in March-April 2021 where no consensus was reached. I think it's time to delete or at least leave a redirect as the subject isn't notable and has not been since his defeat in 2018. Seems much of the coverage on his page is about and during elections he's ran in. Subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NPOL. -- Talthiel ( talk) 13:56, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Note: I have fixed some malformed syntax in this nomination by reapplying {{ subst:afd2}}. No opinion or comment at this time. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:57, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete: He's never held office, despite running is several elections. A three-time political candidate isn't notable. Sourcing is simply confirmation of information needed to inform voters, almost routine coverage. I don't see notability. Oaktree b ( talk) 20:19, 30 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Ray Oberbroekling

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Subject lacks the needed WP:SIGCOV from multiple independent, reliable sources to meet the WP:GNG. This could possibly be redirected to List of Kenosha Maroons players as a WP:ATD. Let'srun ( talk) 21:54, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Redirect to 1924 Kenosha Maroons season as WP:ATD. My searches also turned up no SIGCOV. Cbl62 ( talk) 04:21, 29 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Adrian Baril

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After extensive searching for WP:SIGCOV in multiple newspaper archives, I believe the subject lacks the coverage needed to meet the WP:GNG. This obit [ [40]] is rather short and doesn't make mention of his NFL career. Besides the obit, there are some passing/routine mentions like [ [41]], [ [42]], [ [43]] and [ [44]] but from what I see it is all trivial. While the subject played 16 NFL games, they took place in the early years of the league when the popularity of the league was nowhere near what it is today. I don't see a clear WP:ATD here but am open to the possibility. Let'srun ( talk) 00:08, 25 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Delete. The early years of NFL were so different from NFL in the 1960s–on as to be totally different enterprises. It's not surprising that no SIGCOV exists and that his participation wasn't even noteworthy enough to include in his obit. JoelleJay ( talk) 00:00, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

I don't have the time currently took look for sources for this (plus the Newspapers.com outage). Could we draftify this like we did for Ainer Cleve? BeanieFan11 ( talk) 00:49, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

Wyoming

August 2016 Western United States wildfires

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The page is currently 2 sentences long, and doesn't meet WP:NOTABLE. Sir MemeGod ._. ( talk - contribs - created articles) 04:07, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

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Redirect to List of wildfires#Canada and the United States. per WP:NOTNEWS, it has no WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE Warm Regards, Miminity ( talk) ( contribs) 04:17, 1 August 2024 (UTC) reply

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