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Proposed temporary injunctions

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24 hours from the first vote is normally the fastest an injunction will be imposed.

Pigsonthewing banned from Karmafist's user space

1) Enacted on 19:55, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Pigsonthewing ( talk · contribs) is banned, until the conclusion of this Arbitration, from editing any page in Karmafist ( talk · contribs)'s user space (but not user talk space). He may be blocked for a short time, up to three days, for any edit violating this injunction, and all such edits may be reverted by any editor without regard to the limitations of the three revert rule.

Support:
  1. Kelly Martin ( talk) 19:44, 26 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  2. Fred Bauder 19:45, 26 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  3. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 19:48, 26 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  4. James F. (talk) 19:55, 26 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  5. Jayjg (talk) 23:45, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  6. Neutrality talk 21:22, 8 December 2005 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Personal attack parole

2) Enacted on 19:55, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Due to repeated personal attacks, Pigsonthewing ( talk · contribs) is subject, until the conclusion of this Arbitration, to a standard personal attack parole. Any administrator may ban Pigsonthewing for a short time, up to three days, for any edit which, in the opinion of that administrator, constitutes a personal attack.

Support:
  1. Kelly Martin ( talk) 19:44, 26 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  2. Fred Bauder 19:45, 26 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  3. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 19:48, 26 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  4. James F. (talk) 19:55, 26 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  5. Jayjg (talk) 23:45, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  6. Neutrality talk 21:22, 8 December 2005 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Personal attack parole

3) Enacted on 06:15, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Due to repeated personal attacks ( [1], [2]), Karmafist ( talk · contribs) is subject, until the conclusion of this Arbitration, to a standard personal attack parole. Any administrator may ban Karmafist for a short time, up to three days, for any edit which, in the opinion of that administrator, constitutes a personal attack.

Support:
  1. Kelly Martin ( talk) 18:13, 27 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  2. Fred Bauder 22:13, 27 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  3. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 22:20, 27 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  4. Jayjg (talk) 23:45, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  5. Neutrality talk 21:22, 8 December 2005 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Proposed final decision Information

Proposed principles

Civility

1) Wikipedia requires reasonable courtesy toward other users, including assumption of good faith on their part, see Wikipedia:Civility and Wikipedia:Assume good faith. Related policies include Wikipedia:Harassment and Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers.

Support:
  1. Fred Bauder 17:11, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  2. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 17:57, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  3. James F. (talk) 20:46, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  4. Jayjg (talk) 23:45, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  5. Kelly Martin ( talk) 06:21, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  6. ➥the Epopt 04:18, 4 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  7. Raul654 20:24, 6 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  8. Neutrality talk 21:22, 8 December 2005 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Edit warring considered harmful

2) Edit warring is considered harmful.

Support:
  1. Fred Bauder 17:11, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  2. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 17:57, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  3. James F. (talk) 20:46, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  4. Jayjg (talk) 23:45, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  5. Kelly Martin ( talk) 06:21, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  6. ➥the Epopt 04:18, 4 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  7. Raul654 20:24, 6 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  8. Neutrality talk 21:22, 8 December 2005 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Nature of categories

3) Categories are a guide to readers to assist them in finding information. They are not part of an article and need not reflect established fact. For example, Golan Heights can legitimately be included in both the categories Geography of Syria and Geography of Israel.

Support:
  1. Fred Bauder 17:11, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  2. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 17:57, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  3. James F. (talk) 20:46, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  4. Kelly Martin ( talk) 06:21, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  5. ➥the Epopt 04:18, 4 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  6. Neutrality talk 21:22, 8 December 2005 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
  1. Jayjg (talk) 23:45, 29 November 2005 (UTC) From Wikipedia:Categorization: "Categories appear without annotations, so be careful of NPOV when creating or filling categories. Unless it is self-evident and uncontroversial that something belongs in a category, it should not be put into a category." reply
  2. I agree with Jay. Raul654 20:19, 6 December 2005 (UTC) reply
Abstain:

Proposed findings of fact

Andy Mabbett is Pigsonthewing

1) Pigsonthewing generally uses the signature User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett.

Support:
  1. Fred Bauder 17:11, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  2. James F. (talk) 20:46, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  3. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 22:26, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  4. Jayjg (talk) 23:45, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  5. Kelly Martin ( talk) 06:21, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  6. ➥the Epopt 04:18, 4 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  7. Raul654 20:24, 6 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  8. Neutrality talk 21:22, 8 December 2005 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Edit warring by Pigsonthewing

2) Pigsonthewing has engaged in sustained edit wars over trivial matters, see Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Pigsonthewing/Evidence#Bill_Oddie, Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Pigsonthewing/Evidence#Coleshill.2C_Warwickshire_edit_war.28s.29 and Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Pigsonthewing/Evidence#Die_Lustige_Witwe.

Support:
  1. Fred Bauder 17:11, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  2. James F. (talk) 20:46, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  3. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 22:26, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  4. Jayjg (talk) 23:45, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  5. Kelly Martin ( talk) 06:21, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  6. ➥the Epopt 04:18, 4 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  7. Raul654 20:24, 6 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  8. Neutrality talk 21:22, 8 December 2005 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Conflict between Karmafist and Pigsonethewing

3) Karmafist and Pigsonthewing have been engaged in sustained personal conflict [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8].

Support:
  1. Fred Bauder 17:11, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  2. James F. (talk) 20:46, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  3. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 22:26, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  4. Jayjg (talk) 23:45, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  5. Kelly Martin ( talk) 06:21, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  6. ➥the Epopt 04:18, 4 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  7. Raul654 20:24, 6 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  8. Neutrality talk 21:22, 8 December 2005 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Use of the epithet "Pigs"

4) Karmafist has habitually used the epithet "Pigs" in referring to Pigsonthewing, see links from Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Pigsonthewing/Evidence#15 November, and this typical example: "For users who don't know Pigs reading this comment, please check out Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Pigsonthewing. Karmafist 04:24, 12 November 2005 (UTC)". There have been other personal attacks as Karmafist has lost his patience [9]. These attacks continued despite repeated requests by Pigsonthewing to Karmafist to stop the attacks User talk:Karmafist/POTW Archive#Personal attacks and are even included on the /Evidence page of this arbitration, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Pigsonthewing/Evidence#Die Lustige Witwe. reply

Support:
  1. Fred Bauder 17:11, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  2. James F. (talk) 20:46, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  3. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 22:26, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  4. Jayjg (talk) 23:45, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  5. Kelly Martin ( talk) 06:21, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  6. ➥the Epopt 04:18, 4 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  7. Raul654 20:24, 6 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  8. Neutrality talk 21:22, 8 December 2005 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Loss of patience by Karmafist

5) Karmafist, an administrator, has lost his patience with Pigsonthewing and has resorted to name-calling and threats [10], [11] [12].

Support:
  1. Fred Bauder 17:11, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  2. James F. (talk) 20:46, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  3. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 22:26, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  4. Jayjg (talk) 23:45, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  5. Kelly Martin ( talk) 06:21, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  6. ➥the Epopt 04:18, 4 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  7. Raul654 20:24, 6 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  8. Neutrality talk 21:22, 8 December 2005 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Pigsonthewing stirs up trouble

6) Finding out about notes Karmafist was making on a user page, Pigsonthewing contacted those mentioned on Karmafist's user page, describing it as a "hate page" Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Pigsonthewing/Evidence#Attacks.

Support:
  1. Fred Bauder 17:11, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  2. James F. (talk) 20:46, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  3. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 22:26, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  4. Jayjg (talk) 23:45, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  5. Kelly Martin ( talk) 06:21, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  6. ➥the Epopt 04:18, 4 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  7. Raul654 20:24, 6 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  8. Neutrality talk 21:22, 8 December 2005 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Gaming of 3RR

7) Pigsonthewing, while engaging in lengthy edit-warring, has often successfully skirted the bright line of three reverts within 24 hours; see Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Pigsonthewing/Evidence#Andy's Tactic Regarding Edit Wars.

Support:
  1. Fred Bauder 17:11, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  2. James F. (talk) 20:46, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  3. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 22:26, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  4. Jayjg (talk) 23:45, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  5. Kelly Martin ( talk) 06:21, 30 November 2005 (UTC) (edited for style only) reply
  6. ➥the Epopt 04:18, 4 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  7. Raul654 20:24, 6 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  8. Neutrality talk 21:22, 8 December 2005 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Harassment of Leonig Mig

8) Pigsonthewing engaged in sustained harassment of the new user Leonig Mig ( talk · contribs) whose editing style did not suit him [13]. Eventually Leonig Mig gave up and left Wikipedia [14], see Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Pigsonthewing/Evidence#My Worst Fear, Realized and Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Pigsonthewing/Evidence#Evidence presented by Leonig Mig.

Support:
  1. Fred Bauder 17:11, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  2. James F. (talk) 20:46, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  3. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 22:26, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  4. Jayjg (talk) 23:45, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  5. Kelly Martin ( talk) 06:21, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  6. ➥the Epopt 04:18, 4 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  7. Raul654 20:24, 6 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  8. Neutrality talk 21:22, 8 December 2005 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Proposed remedies

Note: All remedies that refer to a period of time, for example to a ban of X months or a revert parole of Y months, are to run concurrently unless otherwise stated.

Pigsonthewing placed on probation

1) Pigsonthewing is placed indefinitely on Wikipedia:Probation. He may be banned for good cause by any administrator from any page or talk page which he disrupts.

Support:
  1. Fred Bauder 17:11, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  2. James F. (talk) 20:46, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  3. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 22:32, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  4. Jayjg (talk) 23:45, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  5. Kelly Martin ( talk) 06:21, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  6. ➥the Epopt 04:18, 4 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  7. Raul654 20:24, 6 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  8. Neutrality talk 21:22, 8 December 2005 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Karmafist restricted with respect to Pigsonthewing

2) Karmafist is prohibited from any administrator activity which relates to Pigsonthewing such as blocking him or enforcing probation. This remedy shall be interpreted liberally as chance encounters may be anticipated or both might contribute to policy discussions.

Support:
  1. Fred Bauder 17:11, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  2. James F. (talk) 20:46, 29 November 2005 (UTC) (Shouldn't this be "administrator activity"?). reply
  3. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 22:27, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  4. Jayjg (talk) 23:45, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  5. Kelly Martin ( talk) 06:21, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  6. ➥the Epopt 04:18, 4 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  7. Raul654 20:24, 6 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  8. Neutrality talk 21:22, 8 December 2005 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Karmafist banned from Wikipedia for one day

3) Karmafist is banned from Wikipedia for one day for incivility and personal attacks.

Support:
  1. Fred Bauder 17:11, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
  1. James F. (talk) 20:46, 29 November 2005 (UTC) (Too strong for what happened, I feel.) reply
  2. Jayjg (talk) 23:45, 29 November 2005 (UTC) Too strong. reply
  3. Kelly Martin ( talk) 06:21, 30 November 2005 (UTC) Inappropriate remedy. reply
  4. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 01:09, 2 December 2005 (UTC) The incidents did occur, but I think the enforcement by block for further personal attacks addresses that; this block after the fact isn't needed with it. reply
  5. ➥the Epopt 04:18, 4 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  6. Neutrality talk 21:22, 8 December 2005 (UTC) reply
Abstain:

Pigsonthewing banned for stirring up trouble

4) Pigsonthewing is banned one day for stirring up trouble by pointing other users to User:Karmafist/users to watch.

Support:
  1. Fred Bauder 17:11, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  2. James F. (talk) 20:46, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  3. Jayjg (talk) 23:45, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  4. Kelly Martin ( talk) 06:21, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  5. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 01:07, 2 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  6. ➥the Epopt 04:18, 4 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  7. Raul654 20:24, 6 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  8. Neutrality talk 21:22, 8 December 2005 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Pigsonthewing prohibited from reverting

5) Pigsonthewing is prohibited from reverting any article for one year; any three administrators, for good cause, may extend this ban on reverting in one-year intervals indefinitely.

Support:
  1. Fred Bauder 17:11, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  2. James F. (talk) 20:46, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  3. Jayjg (talk) 23:45, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  4. ➥the Epopt 04:18, 4 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  5. Neutrality talk 21:22, 8 December 2005 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
  1. I would prefer a 1/7RR. Kelly Martin ( talk) 06:21, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply
Abstain:
  1. Not sure about this. Perhaps a 1/7RR as recently imposed elsewhere, or an exception for simple vandalism? Mindspillage (spill yours?) 05:46, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply

Pigsonthewing revert limitation

6) Pigsonthewing is limited to one revert per article per week, excluding simple vandalism, for a period of one year. Determination of when this has been violated may be done by any uninvolved administrator.

Support:
  1. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 07:22, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  2. Kelly Martin ( talk) 11:55, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  3. James F. (talk) 15:06, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  4. ➥the Epopt 04:18, 4 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  5. Raul654 20:21, 6 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  6. Neutrality talk 21:22, 8 December 2005 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
  1. Opens the door to slow edit-warring. Fred Bauder 15:33, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply
Abstain:

Proposed enforcement

Enforcement by block of Pigsonthewing

1) Pigsonthewing may be blocked for a short period, up to a week in the case of repeat offenses, should he edit any page from which he has been banned or revert any page. After 5 blocks the maximum block shall increase to one year.

Support:
  1. Fred Bauder 17:11, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  2. James F. (talk) 20:46, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  3. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 22:33, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  4. Jayjg (talk) 23:45, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  5. Kelly Martin ( talk) 06:21, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  6. ➥the Epopt 04:18, 4 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  7. Raul654 20:24, 6 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  8. Neutrality talk 21:22, 8 December 2005 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Enforcement by block of Karmafist

2) Should Karmafist engage in personal attacks or threats toward Pigsonthewing or block him or ban him from editing any page he may be briefly blocked, up to a week in the case of repeat offenses. After five blocks the maximum block shall increase to one year.

Support:
  1. Fred Bauder 17:11, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  2. James F. (talk) 20:46, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  3. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 22:33, 29 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  4. Kelly Martin ( talk) 06:21, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  5. ➥the Epopt 04:18, 4 December 2005 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
  1. Jayjg (talk) 23:45, 29 November 2005 (UTC) Too strong. reply
  2. Concur with Jay. Raul654 20:22, 6 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  3. Neutrality talk 21:22, 8 December 2005 (UTC) reply
Abstain:

Discussion by Arbitrators Information

General

Motion to close

Four net "support" votes needed to close case (each "oppose" vote subtracts a "support")
24 hours from the first motion is normally the fastest a case will close.

  1. It appears everything has passed Raul654 20:25, 6 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  2. Close. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 20:58, 6 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  3. Close. Jayjg (talk) 22:29, 6 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  4. Close Fred Bauder 22:33, 6 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  5. ➥the Epopt 23:35, 6 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  6. Neutrality talk 21:22, 8 December 2005 (UTC) reply


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