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Have you....
Heard of The Renee/Rene Society? One of my kin, who was a police officer told me about it. Supposedly, it is similar to
NAMBLA, only that they target girls and boys. I've also seen reports of this on some old magazines as well. IF this is "for real", can this be sourced and used? Supposedly this org is into kiddie porn, worse. Thanks. đ€đđ„°
Nuclear Sergeant (
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03:56, 15 July 2023 (UTC)reply
It's just that a cop told me about this org, and I've seen some old magazine articles on it as well. I was trying to find out if it was for real, still around. The mags were not pornos, just really old mags. I don't know if the magazine publishers are still around. You'd be amazed by what you may find at a garage sale, estate sale. Thanks guys. đđ„°
Nuclear Sergeant (
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08:04, 15 July 2023 (UTC)reply
Unless those publishers went into retirement you should be able to find their active status quite easily if you only tried. --
Askedonty (
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08:36, 15 July 2023 (UTC)reply
Douglas Cooper explained that this commission, however, was obtained through Renoir's friendship with Jules Le Couer, not Georges Charpentier. Jules' brother, Charles, married Marie Charpentier, whose father was the architect Theodore Charpentier. It is a portrait of Marie's mother.
In March 1866 he was engaged in a large portrait of Mme Joseph Le CĆur, mother of Jules, which he suddenly abandoned to go off with Le CĆur and Sisley on a painting trip. (p. 164)
Hello,
The wikipedia page of Ravel's works lists the composition entitled "Saint François d'Assise" as lost. Please find the work. Just kidding. Though I would appreciate if anyone could rummage and discover any insight or contemporary commentary/descriptions of the peice.
Could a reader of French take a quick look
here p. 142, 195-6? Just Planned? Manuel de Falla a meme declare (Revue musicale, 1939) qu'une des parties avait ete ebauchee : le Sermon aux oiseauxfiveby(
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16:41, 15 July 2023 (UTC)reply
Seeing that the book was first published in 1983 and that nowhere in the article about the book it is mentioned that it is set in the 1960s, I wanted to ask if the book is actually set in the 80s and the
miniseries being set in the 60s was a creative choice of its creators.
You can read the book at archive.org
here (you need to open a free account). On a quick scan through it was difficult to pin down an exact chronology, except that when the heroine is 8 years-old,
Major Hoople is mentioned, a comic-strip character from 1921 to 1984, and when 13 years-old, I Love Lucy is mentioned which ran from 1951 to 1957 (although I expect repeats were shown for much longer). Also as a young adult, she leaves for Russia from
John F. Kennedy International Airport, which puts it after 1963.
Alansplodge (
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16:59, 15 July 2023 (UTC)reply
The U.S. Championship described in the novel was partly modeled after the 1975 Championship in Oberlin, Ohio, which Tevis attended. Soltis, Marcy (May 1983).
"Chess: A Novel Idea"(PDF). Chess Life. pp. 288â9. Wonder if anyone has recognized the games which were constructed around the actual moves from nineteenth-century tournaments.fiveby(
zero)
22:46, 15 July 2023 (UTC)reply
Tibet's Northern Boundary in 1820
Hello, I would like community input on two maps of Tibet in 1820. The northern boundary of Tibet in the two maps is wildly different. Which one is reliable, if either? And if neither or only one is reliable, what should be done? Or could both be right, despite the fact there are two different boundary lines? Thanks.
Geographyinitiative (
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15:44, 15 July 2023 (UTC)reply
My first thought was that cartography wasn't an exact science back then, but a political one. Who drew each map would probably be a good place to start, and perhaps drop the assumption that one is "right."
DOR (ex-HK) (
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16:03, 15 July 2023 (UTC)reply
Some maps
here. The boundaries being largely mountainous, sparsely inhabited and lacking any sort of international recognition until the early 20th century, it seems likely to me that you might not find a definitive answer.
Alansplodge (
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17:17, 15 July 2023 (UTC)reply
Thanks for looking into this and thinking about this. I totally agree with @
DOR (HK):(ex-HK)'s comment that cartography was not an exact science until much later. I also agree with @
Alansplodge: that there may not be a definitive answer. So the question is, if DOR and Alan are right: how should Wikipedia handle these two maps? Are they both "good enough" to show Wikipedia readers? Should they both include some kind of disclaimer, so that people don't think these are boundaries like a modern, clearly defined border? Wikipedia is a platform for fearlessly providing citation-based, reliable information. If that northern boundary was uncertain, why not add some kind of disclaimer on these maps directly, so people are not misled into thinking these lines are more than they are? Then a citation for that disclaimer could be added either on the image or on Wikimedia Commons. Thanks again!
Geographyinitiative (
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17:36, 15 July 2023 (UTC)reply
The traditional Wikimedia Commons policy is that if there's legitimate real-world dispute or uncertainty, then images reflecting both sides can be uploaded, and then it's up to each individual Wiki-project to decide which images to use.
AnonMoos (
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18:32, 15 July 2023 (UTC)reply
It's not only cartography. There are also different (yet related to its fuzziness or inexistence) rules in policy, such as, relationships are established between administrative centers without much worrying about the linear delimitation between their respective territories. See
U-Tsang Military Commission. During a period indeed, part of taxation from
Shaanxi went to Tibet, or was considered as coming from Tibet: Mt Wutai. --
Askedonty (
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18:56, 15 July 2023 (UTC)reply
Nowadays, we are used to a world consisting almost entirely of nation states with fixed borders and mutually recognized frontiers. That is a relatively recent situation (even for Europe, let alone elsewhere). As recently as the 1960s, the borders between Saudi Arabia and the various sultanates and emirates to its east were unsurveyed. The farther back you go, the more of this you have to take with a grain of salt. -
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