This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 14, 2022.
Gender critical
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- The result of the discussion was Speedy retarget/restore target. The editor who introduced the discontinuity between the redirects earlier today has now been blocked as
WP:NOTHERE.
Sideswipe9th (
talk) 00:28, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
(non-admin closure)
Sideswipe9th (
talk)
00:28, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
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Currently
Gender critical and
Gender-critical point to different pages; the former points to
TERF while the latter points to
Feminist views on transgender topics#Gender critical feminism/trans-exclusionary radical feminism. I don't really see why the hyphen is enough to get these to point to different pages, so I'm bringing this up for discussion here. —
Red-tailed hawk
(nest)
23:34, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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- I will note that these both originally pointed to
Feminist views on transgender topics; edits by a new editor such as
this and
this have boldly retargeted
Gender critical to
TERF. —
Red-tailed hawk
(nest)
23:43, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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- Comment Not going to lie, this is going to be a tricky one. There are many who believe that gender critical is an attempt at sanitisation or whitewashing of the term TERF, in the same way that
race realist was an attempt to whitewash racism. There are also those who believe that TERF refers to a smaller subset of people who are typically espousing anti-trans sentiments, those who are specifically also
radical feminists. At this time, my only preference is that both redirects should target the same article, though I do have a slight preference for one over the other.
Sideswipe9th (
talk)
23:58, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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- given that the person who boldly retargeted
gender critical has now been blocked for being a VOA, might it be wise to close this and reset everything? —
Red-tailed hawk
(nest)
00:01, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
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- Having opened this it would probably be better to do it as a speedy retarget rather than a revert, even though the outcome is the same. I don't object to you doing that but someone else implementing it would be slightly preferable.
Thryduulf (
talk)
00:07, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
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- (
edit conflict × 2) Retarget to
Feminist views on transgender topics#Gender critical feminism/trans-exclusionary radical feminism as that has the greater coverage of the term and
TERF says
Those called TERFs often reject the label, and instead describe their beliefs as
gender critical
, which would result a circular link if targetted there which is not helpful for anyone, especially when the content intending to be linked to does exist. The space/hyphen difference seems to roughly correlate with usage of the term as a noun or adjective, but the meaning is the same in either case so they should definitely lead to the same target.
Thryduulf (
talk)
00:02, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
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Prime Minister of the United States
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 22#Prime Minister of the United States
Baja, California
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 22#Baja, California
Adobe Express
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was Wrong venue - this belongs at
Wikipedia:Requested moves, but before you make any other edits it is important that you read
Wikipedia:Conflict of interest.
Thryduulf (
talk)
00:10, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
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Adobe wants to delete the "Adobe Express" redirect because the company wants to rename "Adobe Creative Cloud Express" as "Adobe Express". The company changed the name of its product. But Adobe cannot make that rename because the "Adobe Express" redirect already exists. Once the redirect is deleted Adobe will rename "Adobe Creative Cloud Express"
P Coie Updates (
talk)
23:03, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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John Lassetire
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- The result of the discussion was delete.
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plicit
23:47, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
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Extremely minor, non-notable character no longer listed at target page due to FANCRUFT concerns. There's going to be a lot of these being submitted. Delete.
TNstingray (
talk)
23:02, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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List of Cars character
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- The result of the discussion was delete.
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plicit
23:47, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
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Completely unnecessary redirect clogging up search results. Delete.
TNstingray (
talk)
22:58, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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Pseudohiemalorachnus
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 30#Pseudohiemalorachnus
Soviet Union (2022)
Allentown, Pennsylva.
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 22#Allentown, Pennsylva.
The Delinquent Road Hazzards
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 21#The Delinquent Road Hazzards
Zach Weissmueller
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- The result of the discussion was delete.
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plicit
23:48, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
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Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification or duly sourced mention can be provided. signed,
Rosguill
talk
17:15, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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Kimchi Temper
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- The result of the discussion was delete.
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plicit
23:48, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
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Not mentioned at the target, no results on google scholar. There's a blog post floating around (
[2]) that claims that Kimchi temper is a colloquial name for this concept, but social media posts discussing said article mostly ridicule the moniker as absurd, and I don't see any RS backing it up. Deletion seems appropriate unless stronger evidence of use can be provided. signed,
Rosguill
talk
17:08, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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Korea discount
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 21#Korea discount
Protest Republic
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 21#Protest Republic
Nationalist Korea
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- The result of the discussion was delete.
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plicit
23:48, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
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Google Scholar search results suggest that this is more likely to describe
Korean unification than the ROK, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed,
Rosguill
talk
16:56, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete: While one could argue that Syngman Rhee's politics were nationalist, thereby making ROK nationalist at the end of the Korean War, this doesn't really seem to be a term used to describe ROK. It seems to be taking that
Nationalist China refers to ROC, and therefore trying to apply the same name to ROK, but it doesn't seem to be in widespread usage.
Tartar
Torte
17:45, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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Stanley (Cars)
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 21#Stanley (Cars)
Stanley (cars)
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 21#Stanley (cars)
Heroscape (continued)
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's
talk page or in a
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- The result of the discussion was delete.
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plicit
14:21, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
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Yesterday, I submitted several redirects to the Heroscape page that are not discussed in the article and not important to the "lore". Today, these are a little less obvious, but most (if not all) stem from one over-zealous user back in the day, and they do not contribute any encyclopedic value. Once again, I am using Twinkle and will condense everything under one heading. My vote for all is Delete.
TNstingray (
talk)
12:37, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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- Comment. For further context, the premise of the game involves these Generals summoning random characters from throughout time and space to fight. As such, the only important lore involves the Generals themselves and that backstory. No one will be searching for the backstory of the individual characters, because it basically doesn't exist beyond a couple of sentence summaries in some of the oldest sets. In other words, fans aren't using these redirects, and ordinary users have no reason to use them. Their very existence can be summarized as misleading, undue weight, and original research (e.g. there are not unified factions in the game like "Romans". The very premise of these titles contradicts the game.). Also included among these redirects is a former page for a specific character (Syvarris), who again has no notability in the grand scheme of things and can be deleted alongside the rest.
TNstingray (
talk)
12:52, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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Harold Lee Hsiao-wo
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- The result of the discussion was delete.
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plicit
11:18, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
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Delete, unless there is an appropriate local target for this page (which there does not appear to be). Sending readers to non-English content is not helpful. Additionally, the plain {{
soft redirect}} template
is not used in the mainspace (along the lines of the sentiment expressed at
WP:SOFTSP). See
here for precedents. —
Godsy (
TALK
CONT)
08:54, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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Drivers License
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to
Driver's license.
(non-admin closure)
CycloneYoris
talk!
03:23, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
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The target has flipped a few times from
Driver's License to
Drivers license (song). Although the song is a better character match, I think the Driving license will probably server readers better.
MB
03:17, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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- Retarget to
Driver's license (not
Driver's License, a redirect). I think this is the clear primary topic for this. If kept the hatnotes should be swapped (and indeed the song could be moved as it wouldn't need the disambiguator).
A7V2 (
talk)
05:27, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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- Retarget to
Driver's license per A7V2
Dronebogus (
talk)
05:43, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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- Retarget to
Driver's license per MB and A7V2. The song is relevant for 20-25 year olds but the car license is relevant to a much wider demographic.
Stepho
talk
09:24, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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- DAB there is no clear primary topic per
WP:DIFFCAPS. The song gets more views (11,353) than the generic topic (9,915)[
[3]] so its safest to disambiguate.
Drivers license will still go to the generic topic but someone bothering to capitalize probably wants the song so shouldn't be sent to the wrong place.
Crouch, Swale (
talk)
13:18, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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- Retarget to
Driver's license. The consensus was very clear at the RM, see
Talk:Drivers License (song). 15:31, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
(Re)target to
Driver's license; the song article is not a valid redirect target per
WP:QUALIFIER. I would support moving the song article to this page as the primary topic for this spelling/capitalization, given that it is both a punctuation and capitalization difference away from "Driver's license", but as others have noted above, there is strong consensus against that per
the requested move discussion last year.
Mdewman6 (
talk)
21:53, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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- I've looked at
WP:QUALIFIER and don't see on anything there on where alternative titles are allowed to point. What have I missed? —
Smjg (
talk)
09:19, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
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- While not explicitly stated at
WP:QUALIFIER, what it means here is that by redirecting Drivers License to the song article, it would mean the song is the primary topic for that term, so the song article should simply be titled Drivers License, without parenthetical disambiguation, which would require moving the article over the redirect. While I 100% agree with you that this is a strong case of
WP:SMALLDETAILS and the song is the primary topic for this specific spelling, since clearly a majority of users capitalizing the L are not seeking
Driver's license, the RM discussion is 2021 strongly opposed making the song the primary topic. So, we can't work around the consensus that the song is not primary by redirecting the ambiguous term to it. The ambiguous term must either host or target a dab page, or be a
WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT.
Mdewman6 (
talk)
17:48, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep redirect to
Drivers License (song) because:
- It's the only thing that's correctly called "Drivers License". I don't understand why people are claiming that
WP:DIFFCAPS/DIFFPUNCT doesn't identify a primary topic. It's even more like the given examples of
Iron maiden vs.
Iron Maiden and
Ice cube vs.
Ice Cube than those examples are.
- How often do people come through
Drivers License (exact spelling and capitalisation) to get to
Driver's license? I would expect these to be in the minority, given that (a) the document isn't called a "drivers license" anywhere as far as I am aware, and is only even called a "driver's license" in a small part of the world (b) most people wouldn't bother to capitalise the 'l' if they're looking for the document.
- I'm not sure why
Drivers License (song) didn't have a hatnote for this. I've added one now. —
Smjg (
talk)
09:19, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
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- Because a hatnote is unnecessary per
WP:NOTAMBIG (provided that the base name doesn't improperly redirect there).
Mdewman6 (
talk)
17:48, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
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C-diff
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to
Clostridioides difficile.
(non-admin closure)
CycloneYoris
talk!
01:21, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
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As a follow-up to
Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2022_August_10#C._difficile, all of these versions of the scientific name further abbreviated to some form of "diff" should similarly target the article about the organism
Clostridioides difficile rather than the disease caused by it (given that we have separate articles for these related topics), as evidenced by its use in reliable sources, e.g.
1
Mdewman6 (
talk)
01:17, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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- I hear what you are saying, but when "C-diff" is used by medical staffers, and their patients and their families might want to look up this mysterious term, they are talking about, and the patients have, a
Clostridioides difficile infection. Aside from the scientifically correct
C. difficile, all these jargon terms should redirect to the infection article. That's why I, and presumably other editors, set up those redirects that way.
Abductive (
reasoning)
02:03, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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- Well, I agree we should generally try redirect the most users directly to the content they are seeking, with hatnotes to help the others, but I would note for example that
Staph and all forms of
E coli target articles about the respective organisms rather than the infections, even if most users are interested in the medical aspects of these bacteria. I think there are good arguments either way, which is why I brought it to Rfd.
Mdewman6 (
talk)
20:23, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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President of the Netherlands
Marion Metelits