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The result of the discussion was WP:SNOW keep. It is not normal to delete redirects from draft space to articles moved from drafts, no reason has been given for making an exception this time, and clearly the discussion is heading for a solid keep result, so there is no point in taking up any more of editors' time on this. (Incidentally, the reason given in the nomination is also incorrect: this is not an abandoned draft.) JBW ( talk) 21:00, 18 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Draft:Lucky Duck → Lucky Duck  ( talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  keep/ retarget/ delete ] 

Abandoned draft redirect of an already existing page. Darth-Wiki-Man ( talk) 22:04, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Keep as a standard {{ R from move}} from draft space. SOP is to not delete such redirects, and suppression of these redirects during moves is not among the redirect suppression criteria. Mdewman6 ( talk) 22:35, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply
• Keep per WP:RDRAFT. Thryduulf ( talk) 23:13, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

Just a comment per WP:AFC: “ Please note that getting a review can take several weeks, but that your draft will be reviewed eventually. Attempting to bypass the process by moving the page, or cutting and pasting it into a new mainspace article, may lead to the page being moved back into draftspace again, speedy-deleted or listed for AFD, and repeated attempts may even lead to you being temporarily or permanently blocked from editing Wikipedia” Equine-man ( talk) 23:22, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

Not abandoned…declined. Equine-man ( talk) 23:25, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Keep: I think this is what happened: Darth-Wiki-Man it seems created Lucky Duck at Lucky Duck (film) in February 2022. Then it was moved from Lucky Duck (film) to Lucky Duck by Bovineboy2008 and then promptly draftified (moved to Draft:Lucky Duck) by Bovineboy2008 as well. The page was submitted via the AfC process a few times but was declined, then on September 24 Draft:Lucky Duck was promoted to mainspace by Darth-Wiki-Man at Lucky Duck creating Draft:Lucky Duck as a {{ R from move}}. Thus, it seems like Draft:Lucky Duck is correctly a redirect to Lucky Duck and should be kept per WP:R#K1 Tartar Torte 23:36, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply
• Keep per above. — CX Zoom[he/him] ^{( let's talk • { C• X})} 08:46, 18 October 2022 (UTC) reply
• Keep: Keep it is as it used to be in draft space. Pizzaplayer219 ^Talk _Contribs 18:30, 18 October 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 21:19, 24 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Mark Evans (Harry Potter) → List of Harry Potter characters#E  ( talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  keep/ retarget/ delete ] 

Not included in the target article. The only mention I could find of this person is in List of people with surname Evans#Fictional characters, but there's no real content there. 192.76.8.77 ( talk) 18:47, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Delete - not mentioned at target so clearly unhelpful; further he's evidently a minor character so unlikely to be expanded upon. Should also be removed from surname list for the same reason, but I will await the outcome of this discussion before doing so. ‡ El cid, el campeador ^talk 12:39, 18 October 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 21:19, 24 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Adrian Pucey → List of Harry Potter characters  ( talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  keep/ retarget/ delete ] 

Not included in the target list or anywhere else in the project. There is a mention in an article on an actor who didn't get the role and a mention in a unofficial soundtrack, neither of which is a suitable target. 192.76.8.77 ( talk) 18:40, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Delete - minor character not mentioned at the target. Redirect is therefore unhelpful. ‡ El cid, el campeador ^talk 17:41, 24 October 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 21:18, 24 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Chocolate pie → Pie  ( talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  keep/ retarget/ delete ] 

The word "chocolate" is no where in the target article, leaving readers searching this term with no information about the subject of this redirect. In addition, o could not find a good retargeting option; between redirects such as Boston cream pie and Choco pie, it may just be better to delete the redirect so Wikipedia's search function can best help our readers locate the article which they are intending to find when searching this term. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:12, 3 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Delete I'm rather surprised we don't have an article about chocolate pies (as search results inform me that there are many sorts) but we don't. I'm even more surprised that there isn't at least one recipe at WikiBooks, but again there isn't (there is b:Cookbook:No-Bake Chocolate Pie but that feels too specialised). There is no mention either at List of pies, Chocolate or List of chocolate-covered foods so like the nominator I'm left at recommending deletion due the absence of a suitable target. Thryduulf ( talk) 20:24, 3 October 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Comment I propose we get rid of the article about Snooki and replace it with an article about chocolate pie. MightyArms ( talk) 20:38, 3 October 2022 (UTC) reply
• Possible Retarget to Cream pie. When we say 'chocolate pie' I think we are ultimately referring to chocolate cream pie. If I am not mistaken, I think a retarget to Cream pie, where discussion of chocolate cream pie is included, would make sense. ‡ El cid, el campeador ^talk 19:20, 4 October 2022 (UTC) reply

  ...Well, the term isn't mentioned as phrased in Cream pie either, so there's not really a way to show a definite connection between the two subjects otherwise. Steel1943 ( talk) 18:45, 10 October 2022 (UTC) reply

I am not aware of chocolate pie which is not chocolate cream pie. If you google chocolate pie, you get recipes for chocolate cream pie. I think they are just the same thing. ‡ El cid, el campeador ^talk 16:33, 13 October 2022 (UTC) reply

"Chocolate Chip Pie" is a also real thing (many recipes on Google) and the first potential target I thought of when I saw this. Skynxnex ( talk) 19:37, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

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• Delete per the above. No suitable target seems to exist, potentially notable topic. A7V2 ( talk) 01:15, 11 October 2022 (UTC) reply

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• Weak delete given there isn't really a great target and probably just doing a search would be a better result. Feels like Choco pie is perhaps the best target due to the textual similarity if decided to retarget. Skynxnex ( talk) 19:35, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was Speedy delete per WP:CSD#G6 and WP:CSD#G7. Thryduulf ( talk) 18:16, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• List of intercontinental ballistic missile → List of intercontinental ballistic missiles  ( talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  keep/ retarget/ delete ] 

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• @ Eurohunter You can tag this for speedy deletion under criteria WP:G7, since it's left over from a page move you preformed. 192.76.8.77 ( talk) 17:33, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply
• Speedy delete: WP:G7 Tartar Torte 17:36, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply
• As the redirect was created when fixing a mistake, G6 also applies. Thryduulf ( talk) 18:16, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 21:18, 24 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• "Third Folio" → Early texts of Shakespeare's works  ( talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  keep/ retarget/ delete ] 

Third Folio already exists and points to the same target. It's WP:UNNATURAL to have the " " around the redirect title. The page creator says this as well with the edit summary ACCIDENTAL USE OF INVERTED COMMAS Tartar Torte 14:47, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Delete: WP:COSTLY. Shhhnotsoloud ( talk) 18:53, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was restore and send to AfD. -- Tamzin ^{cetacean needed} (she|they|xe) 21:40, 24 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Super Mario 3 Special → Super Mario Bros. 3  ( talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  keep/ retarget/ delete ] 

Super Mario Bros 3 Special is a pirated/bootleg version of this game but on the Game Boy. Not mentioned in article and no reliable sources to warrant a mention in article. Pizzaplayer219 ^Talk _Contribs 12:23, 10 October 2022 (UTC) reply

Weak keep Reasonable search term and very similar names. ― Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 13:13, 10 October 2022 (UTC) reply

I wouldn’t say it would be similar due to the “special” in the title. Pizzaplayer219 ^Talk _Contribs 20:46, 15 October 2022 (UTC) reply

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• Delete I agree that the addition of the word special means that the redirect and target are not very similar names and I doubt that people are looking up the hacked version.-- 65.92.162.81 ( talk) 02:53, 18 October 2022 (UTC) reply
• Restore article. History indicates the BLAR was controversial though I haven't checked user talkpages etc to see if it was discussed anywhere. Should have been taken to AfD back then, can be taken there now. A7V2 ( talk) 02:35, 19 October 2022 (UTC) reply

  If it does have history then restore and take to AFD. Pizzaplayer219 ^Talk _Contribs 11:09, 19 October 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 21:18, 24 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Main Freedom Fighters in Sonic the Comic → Sonic the Comic#Characters  ( talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  keep/ retarget/ delete ] 

Only 51 page views throughout its lifetime [1] (created on 2007-01-19). The title also seems implausible because of the “Main” in the title. Pizzaplayer219 ^Talk _Contribs 14:06, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Delete - Freedom fighters are discussed at target but just a very specific redirect which is evidently not used. Unlikely and unhelpful search term. ‡ El cid, el campeador ^talk 12:37, 18 October 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 21:17, 24 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Draft:Untitled animated Spice Girls film → Witchblade (upcoming TV series)  ( talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  keep/ retarget/ delete ] 

I would like to delete this redirect because there is no actual draft with that title that exists. 99.209.40.250 ( talk) 13:50, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Delete: This seems to be a bizarre redirect from a page movie where the page was changed to be about something completely different by an account that is now indeffed in part for disruptive editing on drafts. Tartar Torte 14:10, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply
• Delete. If the creator wasn't indeffed then I'd suggest moving the content in the history of Draft:Witchblade (upcoming TV series) that was about the Spice Girls film to this title, but as it is I see no value in doing that and no value in keeping this. If someone else does want to write about the subject this title (there is or was an animated film in the development process) would then be available, but the 2020 material will not add anything significant. Thryduulf ( talk) 14:37, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply
• Delete. If I recall correctly, the creator had a habit of hijacking existing drafts, replacing them with their own articles, and retitling them. This is probably an artifact of that. Trivialist ( talk) 22:01, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

  Completely correct, the edit history shows that happening exactly. Here's the relevant diff. Tartar Torte 23:39, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Delete per above. — CX Zoom[he/him] ^{( let's talk • { C• X})} 08:51, 18 October 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Philosopher's stone. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 11:31, 24 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• The Philosophers Stone → Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone  ( talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  keep/ retarget/ delete ] 

Does The Philosophers Stone refer specifically to Harry Potter, or would it be better targeting Philosopher's Stone or even Philosopher's Stone (disambiguation)? A few searches seem to turn up a complete mix of results. 192.76.8.77 ( talk) 11:29, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Retarget to Philosopher's stone which is the primary topic. It is often referred to as 'the philosopher's stone' (including in the lead), that was not Rowling's invention. ‡ El cid, el campeador ^talk 13:23, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply
• Retarget to Philosopher's stone since there is no evidence they the term The philosopher’s stone is specifically used to describe the object from the first Harry Potter novel and frankly I would be surprised if there was.-- 65.92.162.81 ( talk) 03:02, 18 October 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was delete. Firsfron of Ronchester 11:30, 24 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• PS/SS → Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone  ( talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  keep/ retarget/ delete ] 

Appears to be a made up title for this book that isn't actually used anywhere? I was unable to find any evidence of the book being called "PS/SS" anywhere on the internet. 192.76.8.77 ( talk) 11:23, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Delete - probably referring to philosopher's stone vs sorcerer's stone, but hard to see how it is useful as a redirect. ‡ El cid, el campeador ^talk 13:24, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply
• Delete per el cid. Mdewman6 ( talk) 17:37, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply
• Delete The novel isn’t known by this name.-- 65.92.162.81 ( talk) 03:04, 18 October 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Slavic studies. (non-admin closure) ^Clyde! _Franklin! 11:07, 24 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Eastern European Studies → Eastern Europe  ( talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  keep/ retarget/ delete ] 
• Eastern European studies → Eastern Europe  ( talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  keep/ retarget/ delete ]

This doesn't seem like a good target. If I were to search for Eastern European Studies I would expect to end up at an article about the academic topic, rather than an article on Eastern Europe. 192.76.8.77 ( talk) 11:06, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Redirect to Slavic studies. I know the name is not an exact synonym, but it is the closest in a large list of names in use that broadly overlap, including Central and Eastern European studies, Eastern European and Central Asian studies, Eurasian studies, Post-Soviet studies, Russian studies (sic), etcetera. Alternatively, redirect to broader European Studies. — Michael  Z. 17:50, 18 October 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Slavic studies. (non-admin closure) ^Clyde! _Franklin! 11:04, 24 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• East European Studies → Soviet and Communist studies  ( talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  keep/ retarget/ delete ] 

This doesn't seem like a particularly good target to me, East European Studies is a larger topic than just soviets and communism. 192.76.8.77 ( talk) 11:01, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Redirect to Slavic studies. I know the name is not an exact synonym, but it is the closest in a large list of names in use that broadly overlap, including Central and Eastern European studies, Eastern European and Central Asian studies, Eurasian studies, Post-Soviet studies, Russian studies (sic), etcetera. Alternatively, redirect to broader European Studies. — Michael  Z. 17:51, 18 October 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Eddie Bauer#1971–1987: General Mills and Ford Eddie Bauer branding. Refined to proposed section. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 10:41, 24 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Ford-Eddie Bauer contract → Eddie Bauer  ( talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  keep/ retarget/ delete ] 

Not sure we need this there is no mention of a contract on the article Qwv ( talk) 09:35, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Refine to Eddie Bauer#1971–1987: General Mills and Ford Eddie Bauer branding: This covers the partnership relatively well Tartar Torte 14:14, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply
• Refine per TartarTorte. A7V2 ( talk) 02:41, 19 October 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 21:17, 24 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Da U → University of Miami  ( talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  keep/ retarget/ delete ] 

Implausible search term / generic slang for any university. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 08:30, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Delete per nom. Mdewman6 ( talk) 22:37, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply
• Delete per nomination. — CX Zoom[he/him] ^{( let's talk • { C• X})} 08:52, 18 October 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 21:17, 24 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Tisoki → List of Monstercat artists  ( talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  keep/ retarget/ delete ] 

Artist not particularly known for being a Monstercat artist. Delete for the lack of a good target. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 06:24, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Delete to encourage uninhibited search priority; currently mentioned in 13 articles. Jalen Folf (talk) 10:00, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 21:17, 24 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Curbi → List of Monstercat artists  ( talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  keep/ retarget/ delete ] 

This artist isn't particularly tied to Monstercat; he also released on Spinnin' Records and NoCopyrightSounds multiple times, so I suggest deletion as there is no suitable target. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 06:22, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Delete to encourage uninhibited search priority; currently mentioned in 22 articles. Jalen Folf (talk) 10:00, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Tripoli. ✗ plicit 06:02, 24 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Tripoli District → Tripoli District, Lebanon  ( talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  keep/ retarget/ delete ] 

This is a recently created redirect from a page move. I wonder where this should target to. Tripoli District, Lebanon (current target), Tripoli District, Libya or Tripoli (disambiguation page), which was deemed an ambiguous term per this RM. — CX Zoom[he/him] ^{( let's talk • { C• X})} 06:00, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

My personal preference is to retarget it to Tripoli dab page, but I'd appreciate input from others too. — CX Zoom[he/him] ^{( let's talk • { C• X})} 08:54, 18 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Retarget to the dab at Tripoli where the two areas named "Tripoli District" and multiple other areas described as districts are listed at least one of which ( Tripolis (Perrhaebia)) this would be a plausible search term for. Thryduulf ( talk) 10:37, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply
• Retarget or make a separate DAB, the Libya one has 420 views compared with only 256[ [2]] for this one. The other has a population 1,065,405 compared with only 310,980 for this one. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 17:36, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Caltex#Australia. (non-admin closure) ^Clyde! _Franklin! 03:57, 24 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Caltex Australia → Ampol  ( talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  keep/ retarget/ delete ] 

Currently Caltex Australia redirects to Ampol it having been rebranded in 2020 after Chevron reclaimed the trademark. While Caltex Australia Limited was the legal name, its service stations were branded as just Caltex (no Australia) Chevron have now begun to roll out the Caltex brand to its own Australian service stations, and likewise is using just Caltex.

As the rollout continues, town and suburb articles will inevitably be populated with 'has a Caltex Australia service station' or captions added to images, which won't point to the correct company. Eventually, the primary topic will be the incumbent rather than former user and may justify a stand-alone article, but during this transition phase suggest the Caltex Australia page be set as a disambiguation between the former user of the brand, Ampol, and current user, Caltex#Australia#Since 2022. Alternatively the redirect could be set to Caltex#Australia where there is a high-level summary. Marrunduke ( talk) 03:47, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

While I agree that Caltex Australia in the past refers to what is now Ampol, I don't think Caltex Australia will ever mean the new Caltex in Australia officially. Those town and suburb articles or captions that mention Caltex Australia but meaning Caltex would be wrong as they should be referring to Caltex only. I acknowledge it could be misleading, which is why I added a hatnote on the Ampol article for clarification. Marcnut1996 ( talk) 07:26, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Retarget to Caltex#Australia. I think this explains the confusion best (as an Australian I am myself a bit confused by this...). Second preference keep with the hatnote. A7V2 ( talk) 02:45, 19 October 2022 (UTC) reply
• Retarget to Caltex#Australia per A7V2. Chevron (Puma Energy) will be sole incumbent users of the Caltex brand when 2023 rolls around in a few months time. 203.17.70.53 ( talk) 00:26, 20 October 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was Retarget to Circle-k and Keep, respectively. (non-admin closure) ^Clyde! _Franklin! 02:45, 24 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• ⓚ → K  ( talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  keep/ retarget/ delete ]
• Ⓚ → Circle-k  ( talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  keep/ retarget/ delete ]

These two redirects are about to become one and the same due to the Unicode 11 case map migration but currently point to different places. Hence, a discussion is needed to decide which target is preferable. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 02:40, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Retarget to Circle-k, which explains what the symbol means. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 06:46, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Hiawassee Township, Clay County, North Carolina. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 00:52, 24 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Hiawassee Township, Clay County North Carolina → Hayesville Township, Clay County, North Carolina  ( talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  keep/ retarget/ delete ] 

Have it redirect to Hiawassee Township, Clay County, North Carolina because currently it incorrectly redirects to a whole different township. Frankster200277 ( talk) 00:33, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Retarget to Hiawassee Township, Clay County, North Carolina: Per nom; however, for uncontentious retargets you can generally do it boldly. Tartar Torte 00:48, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply
• Retarget to Hiawassee Township, Clay County, North Carolina. Discussion not needed for something seemingly uncontroversial and obvious like this (unless you get reverted...). A7V2 ( talk) 03:33, 17 October 2022 (UTC) reply

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