This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 7, 2022.
Whet
War never changes
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 25#War never changes
Monster Thickburger
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was no consensus AGAIN. There's no agreement here to change the outcome of the previous discussion, neither to delete the redirect nor to create a separate list of products; so closing this as "no consensus" once more seems to be the right call.
(non-admin closure)
CycloneYoris
talk!
00:11, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:
Not mentioned in the target article, leaving readers without finding any information about these topics.
FAdesdae378 (
talk ·
contribs)
18:29, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
reply
- Speedy keep. A three-week discussion about this closed four days ago, what on earth makes you think spending any more time on this now is a good idea?
Thryduulf (
talk)
21:02, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep
WP:BEBOLD and add a section, a blurb, something about the Monster Thickburger on the article. I would if I knew anything about it.
MightyArms (
talk)
21:07, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
reply
- If the information is never added to the article, this response doesn't address any reason why the redirect should be kept while the target article is in its current form.
Steel1943 (
talk)
03:37, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
reply
- Delete per me in the previous discussion. In all fairness, the previous discussion closed to "no consensus", so a new discussion so soon isn't disallowed, especially considering that it was part of a bulk nomination.
Steel1943 (
talk)
02:09, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
reply
- Also, noting the previous RFD, this redirect is a {{
R with history}}, but I do not think the article hiding under the history would survive a
WP:AFD.
Steel1943 (
talk)
03:39, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
reply
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CycloneYoris
talk!
00:44, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Is it a good idea to create a separate list of products?
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CycloneYoris
talk!
23:12, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
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Xenia (Emulator)
The good breast
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 14#The good breast
Kandiss Taylor
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 14#Kandiss Taylor
PlayStation 5 Pro
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- The result of the discussion was delete.
Jay
💬
03:14, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. There have been no official announcements about a pro version of the PS5 plus it has been only two years since the release of the PS5.
Pizzaplayer219
Talk
Contribs
21:19, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
reply
- Keep while we aren't a crystal ball, it is a reasonable search term in that there is speculation that a pro version will be released. We don't have to give much discussion about it but we should have it. --
Masem (
t)
21:24, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
reply
- Do we have the sourcing to say anything about it though? As far as I've seen, there's not even credible rumors about it...
Sergecross73
msg me
21:48, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
reply
- I'm familiar with the PlayStation line of products, and there has been essentially no talk of such a product even being thought of yet. Just because the previous generation had such a naming scheme for a product (
PlayStation 4 Pro) doesn't mean it's going to carry on. Anything online right now is just a rumor.
Steel1943 (
talk)
23:43, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
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Rosguill
talk
21:38, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
- Delete:
WP:CRYSTAL while the 4 Pro did exist there was no Pro for PS1–3 so we aren't sure there will be one for 5.
TartarTorte
21:41, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
- Delete - As far as I'm aware, there's been no meaningful reliable source coverage/discussion on a pro model to warrant inclusion in the article. Open to recreation if/when that changes though.
Sergecross73
msg me
21:50, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
- Keep: I view it as a predictable search. Incorrect searches should still go to a relevant subject.
Hey man im josh (
talk)
14:44, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
- How do we fix this then though. What sources and content would we add to make this make sense to a general reader. Unless it's a basic misspelling, it shouldn't be left unexplained to the reader like this.
Sergecross73
msg me
18:35, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
- Readers searching for this term are most likely looking for a product that is nonexistent, has not even been announced, and is not mentioned in the target page. To me, this is a blaring obvious trifecta of problems with this redirect existing at the present time and is the very essence of why this is a
WP:CRYSTAL problem.
Steel1943 (
talk)
19:19, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
- Delete per WP:CRYSTAL, and having no article is a pretty good clue that it does not exist and there has been no official comment as such.
LessHeard vanU (
talk)
17:17, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
- Delete per
WP:CRYSTAL.
Jontesta (
talk)
20:28, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
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Talamh an Éisc agus Labradar
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 14#Talamh an Éisc agus Labradar
High-residue diet
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 14#High-residue diet
Anasayfa
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's
talk page or in a
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- The result of the discussion was delete. Editors advocating delete have a modest numerical majority, as well as stronger arguments regarding the encyclopedia's usability for readers, as opposed to editors. Arguments for keep are largely grounded in
WP:CHEAP, but the asserted harmlessness of the redirect has been challenged by editors in the delete camp. signed,
Rosguill
talk
16:09, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
Foreign-language redirect to article not associated with that language - see
WP:RFFL.
Lithopsian (
talk)
16:01, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
reply
- i literally wrote this in my first edit, and yet you are trying to delete it: """"Anasayfa means main page in turkish. in turkish wikipedia our page named "anasayfa".. and when i change URL with en instead tr, i hoped there will be .. anyway you got it.. dont delete it please.
https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anasayfa"""" ----
modern_primat
ඞඞඞ
TALK
07:47, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
reply
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page --> https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page : good 🥰🥰🥰 😁😁😁
- https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anasayfa --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anasayfa : bad 🥵🥵🥵😭😭😭 ----
modern_primat
ඞඞඞ
TALK
07:52, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
reply
- Notice that
w:tr:ဗဟိုစာမျက်နှာ -->
w:tr:Anasayfa doesn't exist; even though
w:my:ဗဟိုစာမျက်နှာ is the Main Page of mywiki, nor would I expect it too. —
xaosflux
Talk
16:06, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
reply
- Delete. Sorry but we can't (shouldn't) have redirects from foreign language translations to the English Wikipedia main page. —
CX Zoom[he/him] (
let's talk • {
C•
X})
08:50, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
reply
- For you
modern_primat, whenever you come to any English Wikipedia page, existing or not existing, you will see the Wikipedia logo at the top left, which on clicking takes you directly to the main page. It is not much to do. —
CX Zoom[he/him] (
let's talk • {
C•
X})
08:50, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
reply
- Delete This is the English Wikipedia not the Turkish Wikipedia and we dont have redirects for other languages for the main page
Qwv (
talk)
11:06, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
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- ok, then we should delete the "main page" in turkish wikipedia too? you are wrong! ----
modern_primat
ඞඞඞ
TALK
12:51, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
reply
- That's up to them. The literal string
Main Page
has special significance as it is the default page name in the software, which just happens to be written in English. —
xaosflux
Talk
16:00, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
reply
- Keep It's getting approximately 20 page views per day, indicating (to me at least) that it's being used by more than just Modern Primat. If it's useful enough that Modern Primat created it and others are using it, it seems mostly harmless and we should ignore it in the spirit of
WP:IAR. ~
ONUnicorn(
Talk|
Contribs)
problem solving
13:07, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
reply
- Delete per the precedent at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 August 6#Redirects to Main Page. —
xaosflux
Talk
16:01, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
reply
- ;(, nobody get harm from it...... dont delete it, pls.....
- ----
modern_primat
ඞඞඞ
TALK
11:11, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
reply
- if "anasayfa" got deleted, im gonna start deletion for "main page" in turkish side then! ----
modern_primat
ඞඞඞ
TALK
11:12, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
reply
- What happens in Turkish Wikipedia is none of our (English Wikipedia's) business. So, feel free to start a deletion discussion there if you want to. —
CX Zoom[he/him] (
let's talk • {
C•
X})
18:15, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
reply
- Keep I absolutely do not see a problem. In fact, having foreign language redirects is a useful thing. I make use of them all the time when I don't want to guess the foreign term on another language WP (e.g. in template space); it mostly works typing in the English term to get to where I want to go. Can't see a problem with non-English speakers doing the same on the English WP.
Schwede
66
00:59, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
reply
- Delete This is classis
WP:FORRED; the main page has no affinity for any languages. Also per Xaosflux.
* Pppery *
it has begun...
03:22, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
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Clyde!
Franklin!
16:08, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep: Seems useful to some and absolutely harmless to everyone else (until or unless we actually need an article with this title).
WP:FORRED doesn't speak directly to this and isn't an actual policy anyway. I appreciate it when other language wikipedias include this kind of redirect (e.g. "Template:" for "Vorlage:" on de.wiki), so can see how this might be helpful for others (although, who actually finds anything useful on the main page? ).
Furius (
talk)
12:33, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
reply
-
User:Furius, all default namespace names always work, even when the namespace is given an alternate name on a given wiki. For example, "Project:" always works here and on Commons, although the Project namespace has been renamed "Wikipedia:" here and "Commons:" on Commons. "Category:", "Portal talk:", "Gadget:", "Template:", etc. will all work on all foreign-language wikis, including German.
175.39.61.121 (
talk)
17:55, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
reply
- Thanks for that. I don't think that changes the fact that it's useful.
Furius (
talk)
19:00, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
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Rosguill
talk
21:29, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep:
WP:RLOTE is a hard argument to apply here in my view as I think there is an affinity between the name of the main page on any other given wikipedia to
Main Page as, in my view, different language Wikipedias inherently are related to each other. While this would not be appropriate for all pages, for a page as universal as the main page, I think an affinity to all other languages with wikipedias is fair. Also, it's a
WP:CHEAP redirect that does seem to get some usage.
TartarTorte
21:44, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
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- Imo, if it is kept, it should instead be a soft redirect to Turkish Wikipedia mainpage. —
CX Zoom[he/him] (
let's talk • {
C•
X})
13:56, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
- Delete per the precedent at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 August 6#Redirects to Main Page, as well as
WP:FORRED which explains why such redirects can be considered harmful since the target page neither has affinity with the language of the redirect nor is a page in the Wikipedia of the same language as this redirect.
Steel1943 (
talk)
21:51, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
- Delete, term not mentioned at the target. Definitely
WP:COSTLY, looking at the number of redirects in different languages that had to be listed and deleted during the previous RfD. enwiki has more articles and more readership, and doesn't have to follow the conventions of how other language wikis redirect to their main page. Keeping this will set a wrong precedent encouraging other language redirects without mention to the main page again, which will be a maintenance problem for English language editors.
Jay
💬
03:05, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
- I promise this isn't to be contrarian, but how would this cause a maintenance problem?
TartarTorte
22:51, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
- The premise is that there's nothing special here about Turkish (or the main page). There are several thousand languages in the world (a few hundred of which have wikipedias) and an arbitrarily large number of articles or project pages to redirect to. If the redirect
Anasayfa is appropriate, then a very, very large number of other redirects become appropriate, and trying to create or maintain them would be a nightmare. –
Uanfala (
talk)
23:00, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
- If someone created redirects like
אָנהייב בלאַט,
эхлэх хуудас, or
ទំព័រចាប់ផ្តើម, validating them would be an effort because I would have to find out what language it is, what is the literal English translation, and whether in the context of the language, it really means main page. Whereas if the terms were mentioned at the Main Page (or any corresponding target) this would no longer be a redirect validation problem, but a task for the editors of that target. As for this discussion, we know that the Main Page is not going to have mention of the translated term in every language of the world.
Jay
💬
02:54, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
- Delete. This is a redirect from a reader-facing namespace to a reader-facing page, so the logic in
WP:RLOTE#Rationale absolutely applies. A Turkish speaker stumbling upon this redirect may assume that they can similarly use Turkish terms to search for other project pages or for articles, and that would be a problem. –
Uanfala (
talk)
21:49, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
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Teaching
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 15#Teaching
Irisis
Mark twain
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- The result of the discussion was speedy keep. Withdrawing as there is no opposition to not prolong something that will be unlikely to gain consensus to retarget.
(non-admin closure)
TartarTorte
17:45, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
This will very likely result in a keep, but if there is consensus
WP:DIFFCAPS matters in this instance, then
Depth sounding#terminology might be a more appropriate target. If not then, keeping makes sense. I do acknowledge there is a
Mark Twain (disambiguation) at which that is listed, but this is the only "mark twain" instead of "Mark Twain" at the DAB. Please feel free to liberally
WP:SNOW keep if that's where the result is headed.
TartarTorte
18:53, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
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MCDLXXXVIII
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- The result of the discussion was delete.
Joyous! |
Talk
19:56, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
Probably qualifies for G5. Creations by banned or blocked users: created by a sockpuppet that's been globally locked for engaging in cross-wiki abuse. Given the nature of their vandalism and the well-known dog-whistle
1488, this was obviously created in bad faith. However, putting it up for discussion in case anyone feels it is legitimately useful. I do not.
Theknightwho (
talk)
18:39, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
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Super Mario 64 DS Versions
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Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 15#Super Mario 64 DS Versions
Wii kart
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- The result of the discussion was delete.
✗
plicit
23:50, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
This could refer to any other kart racing game on the Wii such as
M&M's Kart Racing.
Pizzaplayer219
Talk
Contribs
18:04, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
- Keep. by default on nintendo platforms, "kart" refers to "mario kart". and "wii kart" means "the version of mario kart that was released for the wii". M&M kart is not a first party game, and is nowhere near as popular as nintendo's kart franchise. it is not a source of ambiguity for the name. -
lethe
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+
contribs
20:16, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
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IPhone 6S, iPhone 6S Plus
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 15#IPhone 6S, iPhone 6S Plus
Waluigi in Super Mario 64 DS
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✗
plicit
23:50, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
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There is no mention of
Waluigi inside the article. I assume that there used to be a section inside the article relating to the theories relating to unlocking Waluigi in SM64DS. It also isn’t mentioned inside of
reliable sources either.
Pizzaplayer219
Talk
Contribs
17:52, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
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Coconut Mall theme
List of Characters and Races of Mario Kart Wii
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- The result of the discussion was delete. signed,
Rosguill
talk
17:43, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
It is unlikely that someone will search a list of both characters and races. The article also doesn’t mention a list of races nor does
reliable sources.
Pizzaplayer219
Talk
Contribs
17:16, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
- Rename to List of Characters in Mario Kart Wii + Remove Redirect as this list could have usage.
PerryPerryD
Talk To Me
17:20, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
- That's not how that works, considering the scope of the subject defined by the current title of the redirect is not the same scope of the subject defined by the new proposed title. If you want the "new" title to exist, feel free to create it (though the
"Characters and vehicles" section doesn't contain a complete list of characters, so even that may be considered misleading.)
Steel1943 (
talk)
19:24, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
- Delete -
WP:GAMECRUFT guidance makes it unlikely that any such list would stay in an article.
Sergecross73
msg me
18:38, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
- Delete per
WP:VGSCOPE. A list of characters and/or races would just be better left for the Mario wikis. Regards,
SONIC
678
17:26, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
- Delete. Though the target article has a "characters" section, it is unclear what "races" is meant to refer; thus, the redirect's title could be seen as misleading.
Steel1943 (
talk)
19:25, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
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Double Dash technique
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Rosguill
talk
17:43, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
The article doesn’t mention anything related to a “ Double Dash technique”. The only “technique” the article lists is the Power Drift Technique. Google only shows random techniques that people have made.
Pizzaplayer219
Talk
Contribs
16:52, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
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Mario kart:Double dash!! characters
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 15#Mario kart:Double dash!! characters
Mario Kart 64 Figures
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 14#Mario Kart 64 Figures
The Invincibubble
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 14#The Invincibubble
Mr. Superawesomeness
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 14#Mr. Superawesomeness
Sour Note
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 14#Sour Note
Sir Pinch-a-Lot
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 14#Sir Pinch-a-Lot
P92
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- The result of the discussion was move the disambiguation page over the redirect.
(non-admin closure) –
Uanfala (
talk)
18:49, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
This had directed to
List of national roads in Latvia#P92 which is the only thing called primarily just P92. I think that redirect should be restored as the
WP:Primary topic
MB
14:14, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
- Oppose. The Biblical papyrus (
Papyrus 92) and at least one of the aircraft (
Boulton Paul P.92) also have possibilities as the primary meaning. Without evidence that one topic is definitely primary, the dab page is the best target.
Tevildo (
talk)
19:50, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
- If what the person above is saying is true then I think we should Move
P92 (disambiguation) to
P92.
Pizzaplayer219
Talk
Contribs
22:35, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
- Move
P92 (disambiguation) to
P92, I don't see the previous target as being a primary topic. Absent that, retarget redirect back to
List of national roads in Latvia#P92 by default per
WP:MALPLACED, as the base name should not be a redirect to a page with parenthetical disambiguation.
Mdewman6 (
talk)
20:48, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
reply
- I would support a Move of
P92 (disambiguation) to
P92. An unscientific Google search indicates that, if there's a primary topic, it's
Tecnam P92, but the term is still ambiguous.
Tevildo (
talk)
08:32, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
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Foreign language redirects to Hungary
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 14#Foreign language redirects to Hungary
Nadiril
Isle of Noom
I.Z. aka IDzeroNo
Llian