This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 13, 2022.
Wikipedia:MS
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(non-admin closure)
CycloneYoris
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01:17, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
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This page should be dabified, since there are also a few other pages fitting this abbreviation:
WP:Music Samples and
WP:Manual of Style. Granted, the latter was more often known as MoS, please bear in mind that “of” is often ignored in forming abbreviations. Precedent can be found at my previous RfD for
WP:UC.
NotReallySoroka (
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22:13, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep. If you disambiguate a shortcut, it can no longer be used in that fashion so I think the bar to disambiguate is a lot higher than most other cases. I'm just not seeing it here. Like you said, the Manual of Style is MoS, not MS. I also don't think it likely for someone to type MS looking for samples. On the other hand, MS is the two-digit code for Mississippi and would be plausible for someone looking for a Mississippi topic. --
Tavix (
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23:19, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Disambiguate In addition to Mississippi, there's Montserrat (country code MS)
WP:WikiProject Caribbean/Montserrat work group, and Microsoft
WP:WikiProject Microsoft, and the Malay language (language code "ms")
WP:WikiProject Malaysia ; and there's
WP:WikiProject Motorsport (which uses {{
WPMS}}) ; This unduly focuses on the US topic of Mississippi, which if most state projects are of any indication, is low activity, this project having only a handful of messages over half a decade. --
65.92.246.142 (
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04:18, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep. Except for a short period in 2009-10 the shortcut has pointed to the Mississippi project since 2008 and there are a large number of links that would be unnecessarily broken by a change - all of those I spot checked were pointing to where they were intended. Ambiguous shortcuts are normal and not a problem in and of themselves, and given the potential for significant confusion when shortcut targets are changed (old links will remain pointing at the old target, new links will be for a mixture of old and new) we should always be very conservative when changing them. Disambiguating shortcuts is rarely a good solution as it negates the benefit of having the shortcut in the first place.
Thryduulf (
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10:40, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep per
User:Thryduulf. WikiProject shortcuts can be arbitrary and do not need to follow
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC or other article naming policies. We may as well keep it pointing to the same target it has had for many years. —
Mx. Granger (
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22:09, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
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Čale
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 February 21#Čale
General audience
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 February 24#General audience
Future Event List
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 February 21#Future Event List
Memorial book
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Book of remembrance.
(non-admin closure)
CycloneYoris
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01:15, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
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"Memorial book" is not mentioned at the target, and appears to be a term of art not necessarily associated with Yizkor books and the Holocaust. Notably, when searching GScholar, among the top results were examples of the term's use for Jewish historical texts unrelated to the Holocaust (
[1]), but also several that have nothing to do with Judaism (
[2],
[3],
[4]). This appears to be an independently notable genre, off which Yizkor books are a subset, and deletion to encourage article creation seems appropriate. signed,
Rosguill
talk
19:20, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete all per nom.
Veverve (
talk)
19:49, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Perhaps a disambiguation page per
WP:TWODABS which lists various meanings of "Memorial book" and which links to the articles (or red links for now to some) that cover them would be better? If there are various genres, of which Yizkor books are only one, a disambig page would be more useful for readers than searching for potential variations.
Chefallen (
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03:03, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete. It's a generic term - you can
buy them on eBay. Do not disambiguate, unless someone cares to write a draft in which every entry has a
WP:DABMENTION.
Narky Blert (alt) (
talk)
07:14, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
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Delete per Narky Blert. It could easily refer to something else, such as a
CIA memorial book.
Havradim
leaf a message
12:48, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Retarget to
Book of remembrance with a hatnote to a specific use of Memorial book. That's a very short article, but it's the only one we have about the general concept that I can find we have and there is plenty of scope for merging in anything general, especially from other cultures.
Thryduulf (
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15:34, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Retarget to
Book of remembrance per Thryduulf. Note: Per
WP:PLURAL, the current target should be at
Yizkor book, with
Yizkor Book and
Yizkor books as redirects.
Havradim
leaf a message
21:05, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Retarget to
Book of remembrance per Thryduulf.
Chefallen (
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04:24, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Nom comment -- Retarget to
Book of remembrance seems good, good catch. signed,
Rosguill
talk
15:29, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Retarget to
Book of remembrance per Thryduulf. Great idea! :)
98.179.127.59 (
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17:03, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
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Tangan
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 February 20#Tangan
IPhone 14
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- The result of the discussion was delete. And salt until there is an announcement.
Jay
(talk)
17:59, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
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This redirect was deleted at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 November 1#IPhone 14 so it is eligible for
G4. I tagged it and it was subsequently deleted by
Liz. However, it was recreated again and immediately
nominated at AFD. Of course, that's the wrong forum but since a discussion is desired for this redirect I'll give one here. There is nothing that has changed since the last time this redirect was deleted. There's still no announcement, no release date, everything is still just rumors. I guess now that's its 2022 and Hajoon0102's crystal ball says it will release this year, that makes a difference, but I disagree. This should be deleted and salted until there is enough non-rumor sourcing for an article. --
Tavix (
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17:04, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
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- It has now been tagged.--
65.93.195.118 (
talk)
18:33, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep This device will announce in this year. So, I think redirect is okay. --
Hajoon0102
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02:07, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete and salt per nom.
WP:G4 and
WP:CRYSTAL.
Narky Blert (alt) (
talk)
06:58, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Whether an announcement is
imminent or not, there is nothing about this at the target anyway.
A7V2 (
talk)
07:51, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete - no mention at target, see also
WP:CRYSTALBALL.
98.179.127.59 (
talk)
16:28, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete per
WP:CRYSTAL.
Veverve (
talk)
20:25, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete and a note to any who would want to create these redirects prior to their being SALTed: Keep in mind that they officially skipped 9, so we cannot say they wouldn't skip another number down the line (or even stop using numbers altogether if it proves too cumbersome for them). Zeke, the Mad Horrorist
(Speak quickly)
(Follow my trail)
22:13, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
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Sting me(song)
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Jay
(talk)
17:42, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
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A couple of crumbs related to
Sting Me. The first is a disambiguation error, and the second has an undefined "INT". --
Tavix (
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16:35, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
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Jungcock
Bb bullets & Bb pellets
Tertiaries (disambiguation)
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Tertiary (disambiguation).
✗
plicit
14:37, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
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I don't think "Tertiaries" is ambiguous is it? I doubt if this is helpful to anyone:
Tertiaries redirects to
Tertiary and there is a hatnote there to
Tertiary (disambiguation). Even if "Tertiaries" is ambiguous, a reader using this redirect (and hardly anyone ever does) is probably looking for the disambiguation page.
Shhhnotsoloud (
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10:20, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
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Tagan, Kyrgyzstan
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plicit
14:34, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
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This is apparently the result of a move with edit summary "move to nearby village", but there is no mention of Tagan in the article, or at the wider
Leylek District. Redirects without mention lead to confusion: is Tagan another name for Kayragach, a subordijnate settlement, or an error: I don't know.
Shhhnotsoloud (
talk)
09:48, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete: I moved it to Kayragach in 2017 because that fitted the coordinates best. I don't think there's a place named "Tagan" or anything similar near there, so indeed the redirect is not helpful.
Markussep
Talk
10:15, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete per both above. Google Maps does take you to Kayragach when searching for "Tagan, Kyrgyzstan" but as the information brought up about the settlement is the Wikipedia article I suspect that is the result of the redirect. OpenStreetMap doesn't find anything for "Tagan, Kyrgyzstan", it knows of multiple places called "Tagan" but all are in Russia, Turkmenistan or Mali. As none of those countries border Kyrgyzstan none of them are plausible errors for this place and while Kayragach is only about 5km from the border, that border is with Tajikistan. There is a place in Tajikistan called Tangan, but that is 175km from Kayragach as the crow flies and firmly within its country (it's about 25km east of the capital, Dushanbe). I'm also not seeing any other results for "Tagan, Kyrgyzstan" that are not almost certainly derived from Wikipedia directly or indirectly.
Thryduulf (
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17:15, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
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Anonymous (grupp)
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plicit
14:35, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
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Delete - Disambiguation redirect not in english, unlikely anyone would search this and it seems redundant.
91.129.109.228 (
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08:42, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
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Example chanology
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plicit
14:35, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
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Delete - This was originally created as vandalism and doesn't make sense.
91.129.109.228 (
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08:42, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
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Forum invasion
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plicit
14:35, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
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Delete - As someone else has already mentioned on the
talk page, the term "forum invasion" is too general to refer to one specific instance, and a more specific redirect -
Epilepsy Foundation forum invasion - already exists.
91.129.109.228 (
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08:42, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
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An American Revolution
The Death of the Moth
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 February 24#The Death of the Moth
Racer Chevrolet
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MBisanz
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01:23, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
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It's unclear why this redirect was created. I certainly can't find any evidence of this being a nickname for Louis Chevrolet. Though he was a racing driver himself, this seems an extremely unlikely search term, and is no more likely looking for him than for any of the various Chevrolet racing cars. Delete.
A7V2 (
talk)
00:35, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
CycloneYoris
talk!
01:11, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete or redirect to
Chevrolet (disambiguation). which lists auto racers
Arthur Chevrolet and
Gaston Chevrolet as well as Louis. "Racer" is certainly in the dictionary as "one who races", but the Arthur, Gaston, and Louis articles' ledes use the more common hyponym "racecar driver". Having "Racer Chevrolet" as a redirect invites the false inference that this is a recognized nickname for Louis, as opposed to a hypothetical search query. Users generally expect a search query to give a list of possible articles rather than redirect to a single one. If you can't remember "the car company founder's full name", it's near the beginning of the
Chevrolet article and I think that's where most people would start.
jnestorius(
talk)
22:31, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Jay
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08:22, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
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Department of public services
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 February 21#Department of public services
Pedocriminality
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to
Child sexual abuse#Pedophilia.
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plicit
14:41, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
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Nominating for deletion. The term seems to be an uncommon
neologism and in any case is not mentioned at the target (
pedophilia), nor is it accurately represented by it. Pedophilia is a
paraphilia and a psychiatric disorder, which can lead to criminal behavior, but is considered distinct from it in the psychiatric and legal literature.
Crossroads
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04:19, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
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08:12, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
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Trans rights
Tvärsnitt
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Jay
(talk)
14:06, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
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WP:RLOTE; no affinity to Swedish. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (
talk)
02:42, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
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Comment: The redirects "Tvärsnitt", ..., "Inconsistenza temporale" discussed below, and much more, were all created by
Ciphers (
talk ·
contribs) on 29 Sep 2009 (cf.
[5]), who is meanwhile blocked. There was a discussion about that with
Arthur Rubin at Ciphers' talk page (cf.
[6]). It seems that meanwhile many of the original redirects have been overriden by disambiguation articles. I suggest to check all redirect creations and to delete those that violate
WP:RLOTE. -
Jochen Burghardt (
talk)
12:09, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Comment: I have just checked the most recent redirects in the time range [10:46 ... 10:40] (in my time zone
CET), that is, from "
Vidrio" to "
Tacos arabes". The following pages are still redirects without any comment (such as {{R to XXX}}), and haven't been touched by any other editor than
Ciphers:
-
Estribillo,
Ouvertures,
Antifona,
Pasacalles,
Leit-motiv,
Struktur (except for the discussion tag),
Sozialstruktur (discussion),
Kurde (except for RussBot),
Samusa,
Kipe (bots),
Helwa,
Antarados,
Coelesyria,
Syria Coele,
Nabatäer,
Accords d'armistice israélo-arabes de 1949,
Al-Hurriyya (bots),
Liederzyklus,
Ballada,
Planto,
Barkarola (bots),
Dainas,
Ária,
Hymnus,
Kunstlied,
Kinderlieder,
Skillingtryck (bot),
Villancicos,
Recitativ,
Recitativi,
Rezitativ,
Balletti,
Ballett,
Balletto,
Ballerine.
- I vote to delete all of them. Maybe some other editors could check the remaining time range. -
Jochen Burghardt (
talk)
12:35, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Oppose deletion in this discussion. They all need tagging, and I would suggest a separate discussion and doing a little bit of looking first, e.g.
Al-Hurriyya and
Antifona need checking to see if they are alternative English romanisations of the target.
Villancicos looks like a standard {{
R from plural}}.
Thryduulf (
talk)
17:41, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
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- @
Jochen Burghardt I am very much aware of the other redirects created by the user; if we could please discuss them one after another, that would be great. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (
talk)
21:43, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Comment: As the discussion at the talk page shows,
Ciphers used a script to systematically add foreign-language redirects to all articles applied to. Therefore, I still think deleting all these redirects (per
WP:RLOTE) is the easiest way to cope with the situation. If some of them happened to be useful, it is easier to create them again, on demand. In the above example,
Hymnus just redirects to
Hymn, not to
Julius Klengel. -
Jochen Burghardt (
talk)
09:29, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Two wrongs do not make a right. We lose nothing by spending a little bit of time to separate the good and the bad redirects, but by deleting them all we are guaranteed to lose the good ones until someone expends more effort recreating them - with no guarantee that they will as the deletion has made it harder to identify them. Even with Neelix, who made an order of magnitude more redirects, we didn't just delete them en mass.
Thryduulf (
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10:47, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Ok. -
Jochen Burghardt (
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11:46, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
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Ungleichung
Umfang
Grootste gemene deler
Induzione a ritroso
Inconsistenza temporale