This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 8, 2019.
Featured article candidates
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to
English Wikipedia#Wikiprojects, and assessments of articles' importance and quality. Most participants want this changed in some sense. While there was a numerical split between those who wanted it deleted and retargeted to mainspace,
WP:ATD favors the latter, and with almost two months of discussion, there would seem to be little to be gained by relisting. It may be worth reassessing this as a mainspace redirect later on. --
BDD (
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17:04, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
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See
WP:CNR. Redirects from mainspace to Project space are normally not desirable, and I don't see the value in keeping this particular one, which a reader (non-editor) would be unlikely to search.
funplussmart (
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02:09, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
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- Delete. This redirect could refer to some sort of specific featured articles list of some publication, etc., causing confusion.
Steel1943 (
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16:39, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Comment I was going to propose that it go to a section of
Wikipedia covering internal ratings of article quality (as opposed to external ratings, e.g. the Nature Wikipedia-versus-Britannica study), but to my surprise I didn't find any such section. Looks like our only options are keeping or deleting.
Nyttend (
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23:44, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Delete per Steel1943. This can refer to candidates for (almost) any of the subjects listed at
Feature article. --
Tavix (
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15:32, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Retarget to
English Wikipedia#Wikiprojects, and assessments of articles' importance and quality, where featured articles are covered. That's the section linked on the dab page
Tavix noted above. The other entries on the dab are broad categories, rather than this specific meaning. The section header is complicated and misleading, so maybe that's why
Nyttend didn't spot it at first glance, but we've got content on FAs in an article, so we should point this there. ~ Amory (
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20:43, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.Relisting comment: The proposed section discusses featured articles, but nothing about candidates or how articles achieve featured status. Since the section has cross-namespace redirects in it, is this acceptable?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
BDD (
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20:25, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was keep and hatnote. This type of hatnote is always awkward to word. I'm not wedded to what I've added, if anyone wants to take another shot at it. --
BDD (
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16:56, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
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Change redirect target to
Christians. The main meaning of "Christian identity" is not the
Christian Identity movement, as a Google Books or Google Scholar search will show.
Srnec (
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18:09, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Retarget per nom and principle of least astonishment. It would be unfortunate if a link to Christian identity took the unsuspecting reader to Christian Identity.
Catrìona (
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19:04, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Comment I don't think this is clear cut. On one hand, Christian (small-i) identity is certainly a thing that people talk/write about. However, I think it's probably the case that recently, use of the phrase is more likely to refer to the racist ideology, scholarly articles notwithstanding. Is that just recentism? A tough call.
ErikHaugen (
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18:47, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
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- How recently ? According to article, Christian Identity theories date from early 20th century.
Place Clichy (
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23:15, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
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Retarget per nom, or alt retarget to
Christendom. The fringe racist ideology is, well, fringe, and does not deserve to be treated as primary topic.
Place Clichy (
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23:15, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
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- Change vote to Keep and place hatnote to
Christians or
Christendom per opinions below. Better to have a hatnote pointing from this article than to it. An alternative solution may be to rename article to
Christian Identity (ideology).
Place Clichy (
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20:47, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
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- Comment. The problem I see with retargeting to
Christians is that there would then need to be a hatnote at
Christians to
Christian Identity, which will probably bring more attention to that article then this redirect would. --
Tavix (
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19:51, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Wikipedia redirects
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- The result of the discussion was soft delete. --
Tavix (
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21:45, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
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- As the co-founder of both WikiProject Women and WikiProject Women in Red, I know the history behind this. We changed our naming convention, so this redirect should be a Speedy delete. --
Rosiestep (
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20:41, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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Delete Wikipedia:Wikipedia redirects created in error.
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20:31, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was delete. --
BDD (
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16:54, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
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Unlikely misspelling of Dam Yisrael Noter, the full Hebrew name of Nakam
Catrìona (
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03:52, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Delete; this is nonsense. "Dam...Noter" and "Dahn Nokeam" are radically different in English, as are דםנתר and דהןנכאמ in Hebrew. (I can't promise that this is the right transliteration, but it's at least approximate.) Hebrew's similarly shaped letters, e.g. כ and ב (Kaph and Beth) sometimes get confused, especially in ancient manuscripts (which obviously these aren't), but you're not going to get these items confused. It's not even the same number of letters, seven versus five, if I did the transliteration correctly.
Nyttend (
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04:02, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
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Comment: @
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Nyttend: This redirect was created as a result of "
Dahn Y'Israel Nokeam /
Avenging Israel's Blood" appearing on
User:Skysmith's "Missing topics about Judaism" list in September 2013 (
version of page at that date). If, as seems from the above, that may have been the product of bad OCR, the most appropriate thing might be to keep the redirect, but flag it {{
redirect from misspelling}}.
Jheald (
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18:56, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
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- I don't think that makes sense, because it is an unlikely misseplling and doesn't appear on the current version of the list. It's getting no views and as pointed out above, is nonsense Hebrew. All 6 google hits are probably copied from Wikipedia.
Catrìona (
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18:59, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
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- @
Catrìona: It doesn't appear on the current version of the list because the list is a list of missing terms, and the term is no longer missing. Whether it's nonsense Hebrew or not is irrelevant - the OCR misidentification occurred in English ("m" <--> "hn", etc). Yes, it's an unlikely misspelling for a human, but evidently it's an OCR mis-read that's been made at least once by a machine, and is now loose in the wild. Redirects are cheap, so I see no particular harm in keeping it.
Jheald (
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19:28, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
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Comment:: I do not remember any more where I got that but I have seen different transliterations before (I have used several dictionaries and encyclopedias to create the Missing Topics pages) and I have often turned them into redirects since I don't know what version someone might be trying to use to find information. I do remove the blue links from the lists periodically and I have no doubt there may be more things like this. As far as I am concerned, I would support the "redirect from misspelling" version myself -
Skysmith (
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20:27, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
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- This is too implausible. Spelling errors for English? Yes, keep those if they're plausible. Spelling errors for foreign languages in their own scripts, e.g. ישדאל for ישראל (see my comment about similarly shaped letters) are perhaps okay. Spelling errors for foreign languages in transliteration? Probably too unlikely to keep. OCR-caused spelling errors of foreign languages in transliteration? That's simply too many layers. There's always a risk that a redirect for a spelling error in another language will be seen by someone as the correct spelling (or an alternate spelling), and when the spelling error is a machine error that humans are quite unlikely to make, the risk of confusing humans is greater than the benefit of serving the very small population who's relying on an OCR-generated list.
Nyttend (
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20:31, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
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List of supermarket chains in Bangladesh
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- The result of the discussion was no longer a redirect. This was a good faith deletion-by-redirection. I restored the pre-redirected version.
(non-admin closure)
UnitedStatesian (
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20:39, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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Delete - target article has nothing to do with redirect.
Ajf773 (
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19:32, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 15#Nokmim
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- The result of the discussion was delete. There's consensus that speculative philosophy is not the same as Continental philosophy, and a subject which we should address directly. --
BDD (
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16:52, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
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I can't see why speculative philosophy should be redirected to continental philosophy. It is true that post-Kantian continental philosophy tends to be more non-empirical than analytic philosophy, but this has always been true of mainland European philosophy, e.g. with the rationalists Descartes, Spinoza and Leibniz (against the British empiricists Locke, Berkeley and Hume), who came before "continental philosophy" in the post-Kantian sense (which is what the
continental philosophy article is focusing on; as the article states, 'The history of continental philosophy (taken in its narrower sense) is usually thought to begin with German idealism'). For as long as Anglo-Saxon philosophy has existed, it has tended to be more empirical than mainland European philosophy. Post-Kantian continental philosophy is distinguished both from Anglo-Saxon (including analytic) philosophy and from pre-Kantian mainland European philosophy by things other than being speculative, most notably by its overwhelming adherence to Kant's "Copernican revolution" and its overwhelming rejection of realism. (Admittedly I'm painting in broad brush strokes here.)
Looking at the history of
Speculative philosophy, it seems somebody tried to delete it by blanking it in 2010, saying 'del bad redirect', but the page was then changed back by someone saying 'Please do not blank redirects. To delete them, list them at WP:RFD but do not just blank pages.'.
A few pages link to
Speculative philosophy - see
/info/en/?search=Special:WhatLinksHere/Speculative_philosophy. But I'd be happy to go through those pages and edit them to remove the links and whatnot, and moreover, I had a look at some of the pages and some of the pages seem to illustrate precisely why "speculative philosophy" and "continental philosophy" cannot be taken as synonymous. For example, from
Islamic-Jewish relations:
'The 12th century saw the apotheosis of pure philosophy. This supreme exaltation of philosophy was due, in great measure, to Ghazali (1058–1111) among the Arabs, and to Judah ha-Levi (1140) among the Jews. Like Ghazali, Judah ha-Levi took upon himself to free religion from the shackles of speculative philosophy, and to this end wrote the Kuzari, in which he sought to discredit all schools of philosophy alike.'
In this, the phrase 'speculative philosophy' is linked to the page
Speculative philosophy.
Another example, from
Isaac Watts:
'Throughout Logic, Watts revealed his high conception of logic by stressing the practical side of logic, rather than the speculative side.'
In this, the word 'speculative' is linked to the page
Speculative philosophy.
A final example, from
Christopher Jacob Boström:
'According to the different kinds of personal beings that are known to us, theoretical philosophy is further divided into speculative theology, speculative ethnology and speculative anthropology; practical philosophy into philosophy of religion, philosophy of law and ethics, corresponding to the terms of the division of theoretical philosophy'
In this, the first occurrence of the word 'speculative' is linked to the page
Speculative philosophy.
I think this page should be deleted rather than re-targeted or turned into an article - I can't think of anything better to re-target it to (looking at its history, it was once targeted to
Sublation but this was changed back) and I don't think it deserves an article of its own any more than, say, "Abstract philosophy".
Matthew Fennell (
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17:30, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
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- I strongly disagree with a deletion. The term is found
in the wiktionary and for that matter
in Merriam-Webster and gets
360,000 Google hits. There is a
Journal of Speculative Philosophy (not the first by that name, I might add), and the term is commonly used in contrast to
analytic philosophy.
- I agree that the term is broader than Continental philosophy. If anything, I would put an article here that dealt with the subject more broadly and included a one-paragraph summary and link to Continental philosophy. I think complete elimination is exactly the wrong direction to go. -
Jmabel |
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17:52, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
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- For what it's worth, I'm the one who originally created that as a redirect, but that was in 2004, when Wikipedia was much less extensive. -
Jmabel |
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17:56, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
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- @
Matthew Fennell: I apologize to have to ask this, considering that I got hit with a bit of a
WP:TLDR issue while reading this since the target subject is not in my realm of expertise: Are you claiming that the redirect should be deleted per
WP:REDLINK as a subject separate of the target? (Disregarding the subject of the redirect's potentially notability as a stand-alone article?)
Steel1943 (
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17:29, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
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- As I said Steel1943, 'I think this page should be deleted rather than re-targeted or turned into an article - I can't think of anything better to re-target it to (looking at its history, it was once targeted to Sublation but this was changed back) and I don't think it deserves an article of its own any more than, say, "Abstract philosophy".' I don't really understand what is meant by 'Are you claiming that the redirect should be deleted per WP:REDLINK as a subject separate of the target? (Disregarding the subject of the redirect's potentially notability as a stand-alone article?)'. I don't have a good enough understanding of the technicalities of Wikipedia policies to really understand what you mean I'm afraid.
Matthew Fennell (
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02:55, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
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Wikipedysta:BartoszGwóźdź/brudnopis
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- The result of the discussion was delete. --
Tavix (
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18:28, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
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Delete Misformed foreign language redirect; copied from a non-en wiki's non-article namespace.
UnitedStatesian (
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18:07, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:WikiProject Semiprotect
Wikipedia:WikiProject /Hong Kong Cinema
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- The result of the discussion was soft delete. --
Tavix (
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22:14, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
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Delete This misformed (space then slash) redirect pollutes the search bar.
UnitedStatesian (
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16:43, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was keep. ~ Amory (
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02:05, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
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This is a hardly used name (
29 views since its creation with few mentions in outside sources) and was previously deleted under
WP:R3.
ComplexRational (
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19:46, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to
Daniel Farke and hatnote. There seems to be a weak consensus that Daniel Farke would be the primary topic for "Farke". --
Tavix (
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22:01, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
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Propose retargetting to
Daniel Farke. It is perfectly acceptable to redirect Farke to the person, as people will search for him by surname, as that is how football players are usually mentioned.
Daniel Farke gets 600 views a day, whereas the place is obscure, and only gets 2 views a day, of which only 4 this month have been from Farke redirect. As such, I believe that
Daniel Farke is the
primary topic for the
Farke redirect, and hatnote from
Daniel Farke to
Farkë would be sufficient
Joseph
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01:36, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was keep. While the substance at the target doesn't seem to be that great, it is relevant and there doesn't seem to be a better target that has been presented. If someone is able, it would be a good idea to make make the target clearer. --
Tavix (
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22:00, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
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The target section for this redirect is broken (it should be
Arabic diacritics#I‘jām (phonetic distinctions of consonants), but I'm not sure that this section is a suitable target anyway.
Shhhnotsoloud (
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08:01, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Keep (and fix). All single unicode characters with a clear meaning should be blue links and I can't find anything better for this one than the section of the article that describes it. The {{
Anchor}} template can (and should) be used to avoid breaking links to sections when sections get renamed.
Thryduulf (
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14:43, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
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- @
Thryduulf: I agree that characters should have redirects (and I agree about anchors). But I don't think this section of this article does describe it.
Shhhnotsoloud (
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18:22, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
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Category:WikiProjects Alternate History
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (
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22:02, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
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Delete This misformed (plural) soft redirect pollutes the search bar.
UnitedStatesian (
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15:37, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was delete. --
Tavix (
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18:18, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
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Delete Section has been deleted, and term does not appear in the target article.
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04:38, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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ALL-CAPS with spaces redirects to Wikipedia:Protection policy
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 17#ALL-CAPS with spaces redirects to Wikipedia:Protection policy
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 22#Parturient