This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 20, 2017.
Template:Maintenance category
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Tavix (
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20:27, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
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Delete. "Maintenance category" is a horrible synonym for the target. There's already an unacceptable level of confusion regarding the types of categories related to tracking/administration/maintenance of Wikipedia. The current target name is self-describing. Keeping "maintenance category" allows for many avenues of confusion. There is already some discussion about this on the target's talk page.
Jason Quinn (
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11:51, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
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Comment Seems to me we have a very confusing naming scheme going on for category categorization. I hope we agree that a "Maintenance category" should contain items needing maintenance. Nothing about the
Template:Wikipedia category suggests to me it exclusively contains items needing maintenance and there are to be sure Wikipedia-related categories grouping items where no maintenance is needed. The current default text at
Template:Wikipedia category suggests that
Template:Maintenance category may be best utilized as the main template, not as a redirect. Deletion is better right now because it doesn't compound the present confusion. If it is confirmed that
Template:Wikipedia category is only for items with maintenance, then we should make that move now to free
Template:Wikipedia category up for a more general class of categories.
Jason Quinn (
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19:35, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
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- I think the current usage of "maintenance category" (perhaps largely due to the wording of
Template:Wikipedia category) is in reference to any category that helps maintain functionality of the encyclopedia's "backside", not something that necessarily needs fixed. For example,
redirect categories (see the nutshell of that guideline; e.g.
Category:Redirects from alternative names), fall under that umbrella. —
Godsy (
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21:02, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
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I am more convinced that the proper thing to do is to use
Template:Maintenance category for the template presently at
Template:Wikipedia category. This is due to the close match between the template name and the template text there. The ramifications of just changing the text are not immediately obvious and we do not have a lot of flexibility in rewording anyway because the links in the text; so rewording is not an easy solution to this problem. My advice is that
Template:Wikipedia category should be made a redirect (for now) to
Template:Maintenance category and
Template:Wikipedia category should be considered deprecated. A bot request should be made to transfer all existing usage of
Template:Wikipedia category to
Template:Maintenance category. Once
Template:Wikipedia category is no longer used, it could then we deleted until an appropriate new use for it arises. Although better than the present situation, I dislike the idea of using
Template:Maintenance category as a redirect to
Template:Wikipedia category. I view that as a half-solution and just delaying important progress.
Jason Quinn (
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21:13, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was delete. --
Patar knight -
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16:14, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
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Many highways all around the world have an Exit 9. Even if Exit 9 on the New Jersey Turnpike is extremely well known, it should still redirect to the article on the Turnpike, not the whole state. However, I would much rather have this completely deleted.
HotdogPi
14:31, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was delete. --
BDD (
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15:52, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
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The target article is a novel. There are no films by this name, certainly not a 2014 film. --
Tavix (
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02:21, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was delete. --
BDD (
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15:51, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
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Delete, another faulty
crystal ball. A Daredevil film was not released in 2014 nor 2015. --
Tavix (
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02:14, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was delete. --
BDD (
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15:51, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
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The Doc Savage film wasn't released in 2014, 2015, or 2016; it's still forthcoming. --
Tavix (
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02:01, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Five pillars
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- The result of the discussion was no consensus. I don't see there being consensus for deletion unless the incoming links are fixed, and it doesn't appear that the links are going to be cleaned up anytime soon. However, feel free to bring this back if/when this does happen. --
Tavix (
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20:14, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
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Double "Wikipeda:" namespace, but per its edit history, looks as though its creation was intentional ... since it has over 500 incoming links, mostly in the "User talk:" namespace.
Steel1943 (
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01:21, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
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- On a related note, I think that all incoming links to this redirect should be replaced with a link to its target, probably through a
WP:BOTREQ request ... since there actually seems to be over
1000 2500 incoming links.
Steel1943 (
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01:25, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
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- Delete per general housekeeping. The incoming links should be addressed first, it should be easy with AWB but I don't have it where I am now. I'll try later if nobody beats me to it.
Ivanvector (
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17:34, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
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- @
Ivanvector: I'd do that myself, but I can't ... since I mainly edit with a mobile device, and AWB is not compatible with mobiles.
Steel1943 (
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18:23, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
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- DeleteDelete as above
AngusWOOF (
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18:04, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
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- Replace existing occurrences with
Wikipedia:Five pillars and then delete this redirect per those above. —
Godsy (
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19:26, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
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Don't delete Keep unless all incoming links have been dealt with and after the passage of a period of time it has become clear that no new such links have sprung up. –
Uanfala (talk)
20:13, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
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- Keep, but deprecate. Fix the links, monitor for about six months, and if it has gained no new links and the page views have decreased to near zero then it can be deleted. It has many incoming links demonstrating that it is useful.
Thryduulf (
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21:06, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
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- @
Thryduulf: See
Train2104's comment above. This redirect was the product of, what seems to be, someone trying to fix a bad link in a welcome templates by ... rather than correcting the bad link in the templates ... creating this redirect. From the look of this situation, it is only "useful" because it was essentially created in error, sort of like curing a symptom rather than fixing the root cause.
Steel1943 (
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22:03, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
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- Just because it was created in error does not mean that it has not since gained uses that are not due to that error. I see nothing in Train's comment that changes my mind.
Thryduulf (
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23:54, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
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- Either keep and deprecate per Thryduulf or fix existing links and delete. Either is fine for a clearly erroneous redirect as long as no links to the 5P are being broken. ----
Patar knight -
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04:41, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
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- Delete - but have a bot fix those links first --
Temp87 (
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20:56, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
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- Get a bot to do it - yeah, I started doing this with AWB and got up to about 800 replacements, then realized I'm probably effectively running an unauthorized bot. There's about 2800 replacements left, nearly all of them substitutions of whatever badly coded template led to this mess.
Ivanvector (
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22:46, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
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- That and a flagged bot won't set off the "new messages" notifications/emails for all these users. —
Train2104 (
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00:39, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
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- Keep. When it has all those links, people are going to visit them, whether in current versions of talk pages or old versions of talk pages. No good reason's been given for breaking links in the thousands and thousands of old revisions that link to this redirect.
Nyttend (
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23:17, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
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Primefac (
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13:18, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
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I'm honestly surprised these were created, given that I can find exactly zero sources that actually use the terms "Korea North" or "Korea South". I'd R3 them but since they're almost ten years old I figured RFD might be a better venue.
Primefac (
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01:07, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
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- I wouldn't create them, but I also wouldn't have a problem with them were they to be created. They're in no way harmful, confusing, ambiguous, or otherwise. --
Tavix (
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01:44, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
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- Weak keep, until Primefac and me fixed them earlier today, there were three incoming links to Korea South, indicating at least some confusion regarding the word order. Sources aren't necessarily required for redirects.
Huon (
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02:50, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
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- Keep: Plausible search term.
KGirlTrucker81
huh?
what I've been doing
17:25, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
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Ivanvector (
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18:31, 20 March 2017 (UTC) Readers browse Wikipedia in all sorts of ways, and like Huon said, there's some evidence of utility. Keep
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- Keep per the above. In addition to places where the countries are listed alphabetically under "K" (c.f.
Korea, North), I imagine these links are useful for non-native speakers as there are many languages where the direction comes last (e.g.
fr:Corée du Nord,
es:Corea del Norte).
Thryduulf (
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21:11, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
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- Keep - these are helpful links --
Temp87 (
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20:55, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
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