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November 13

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 13, 2016.

Slovenia (general), Slovenia

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The result of the discussion was Deleted by User:Tone. ( non-admin closure) Si Trew ( talk) 09:42, 15 November 2016 (UTC) reply

This makes no sense. -- Tavix ( talk) 22:42, 13 November 2016 (UTC) reply

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Non-Muslim

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 November 23#Non-Muslim

California air pollution control/emission regulation redirects

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The result of the discussion was there's clear consensus to delete these, as even those who want them retained in some way were split as to what to do with them. I'll grant one concession, retargeting California emission standards to United States emission standards#California as that particular redirect matches the target exactly. -- Tavix ( talk) 15:36, 22 November 2016 (UTC) reply

These redirects could be seen as misleading since the subject of the target article is a government agency, instead of a subject regarding air pollution controls, regulations or standards in California as a whole. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:53, 2 November 2016 (UTC) reply

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Alternative Fuels Plan

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk) 15:51, 22 November 2016 (UTC) reply

Term not mentioned in target article. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:48, 2 November 2016 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete - The term seems, even with this kind of capitalization, too vague. There's all kinds of plans being enacted by various governmental and non-governmental agencies about changing energy sources being implemented all over the world. I'd rather just let people search. CoffeeWithMarkets ( talk) 08:01, 22 November 2016 (UTC) reply
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Bhután

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The result of the discussion was keep Bhután; delete Kingdom of Bhután. -- Tavix ( talk) 15:45, 22 November 2016 (UTC) reply

Mixed language redirect. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 00:04, 1 November 2016 (UTC) reply

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  • Weak delete both. "Bhután" is correct in modern Hungarian ("Kingdom of Bhutan" being "Bhutáni Királyság", roughly "Bhutan-of King-place" if you want to split the agglutinatives), but that's irrelevant if we have use of these terms in reliable English sources. (HU:WP does not have that as its equivalent of {{ R from full name}}, anyway.) I am not sure we should really preserve every old spelling, especially in the case of diacritical marks that are for the large part ignored by the search engine anyway. These are just clutter. Si Trew ( talk) 02:40, 14 November 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Comment - Bhutan would have no affinity with Hungarian language as far as I know. The article's etymology section describes in fair detail the various names and spellings that the land has been called by Europeans, and none of those described use diacritics. Natively, Bhutan has its own name and writing script, so no help there. See Uanfala's comment above: it could be erroneous in whatever century-old texts were used as sources in those articles. Regarding repair of the links, there will still be inbound links from Wikipedia mirrors in that case, making this similar to an {{ R from move}} situation. My !vote remains the same, not on its utility or appropriateness as a redirect but entirely on the likelihood of link rot. Ivanvector ( Talk/ Edits) 18:30, 14 November 2016 (UTC) reply
Indeed, and not even in particularly old ones. Just the other month I had to sing that something was blesséd, where the diacritical marks in things such as Hymns Ancient and Modern are used as stress marks, which I imagine is what would have happened here... as well as all kinds of errors such as optical character recognition not being perfect and whatnot. Unless there is any firm evidence that this form is useful to an English-speaking audience I do not see that it is helpful to know that it is how it is written in Hungarian: that's easy to find out by clicking on the Interwiki link for Bhutan, which indeed was exactly what I did (Hungarian doesn't have a Bh- on native words any more than English does, but often preserves spellings of foreign words, as it seems mostly to have done in this instance but added the written distinction there is in Hungarian sounds between "a" and "á". I imagine this actually comes via English into Hungarian, otherwise it would be simply " hu:Butan". Unfortunately even the best Hungarian dictionaries – and I have them – haven't etymologies, so that's just an educated guess: since sounds or digraphs like sh and th and wh and ch aren't formed that way in the Hungarian alphabet, it's pretty obviously a loanword in Hungarian.) Usually this goes as "no affinity to Hungarian" (or whatever), and I can confirm first-hand that it hasn't. Si Trew ( talk) 19:39, 14 November 2016 (UTC) reply
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Multi-Tool Notepad

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The result of the discussion was keep. -- Tavix ( talk) 15:24, 22 November 2016 (UTC) reply

Obscure synonym, unsure as to what this refers to, a quick google reveals many obscure topics unrelated to one another. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 00:01, 1 November 2016 (UTC) reply

Can that information be added to the article? That would ensure a keep. Even if Multi-Tool was never realized, if there's evidence that suggests it was a predecessor to the 1985 one, it could be used as background information. But if they're unrelated products, then nevermind. AngusWOOF ( barksniff) 16:03, 1 November 2016 (UTC) reply
I've updated the May 1983 item in Timeline of DOS operating systems, and agree that this product introduction should be mentioned in the Microsoft Notepad article. I'm taking a break, and may get to that in a couple days or so... wbm1058 ( talk) 16:06, 6 November 2016 (UTC) reply
 Done Check out the paragraph I added to the lead of Microsoft Notepad. wbm1058 ( talk) 10:41, 11 November 2016 (UTC) reply
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John Abraham (MP)

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The result of the discussion was speedily deleted by Sarahj2107. -- BDD ( talk) 15:30, 14 November 2016 (UTC) reply

Delete as confusing. The move message (“His actual name. D'OH.”) implies that “John” is a mistake, not an alternative name. Gorobay ( talk) 17:42, 13 November 2016 (UTC) reply

Close...as I did, G6/G7. Deleted. Muffled Pocketed 09:57, 14 November 2016 (UTC) reply
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The importance of arabic language in the study of islam

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 11:53, 21 November 2016 (UTC) reply

Here's another essay article that was redirected instead of deleted. While I'm sure the Arabic Language is important when studying Islam, this doesn't seem like a plausible or helpful search term. -- Tavix ( talk) 17:40, 13 November 2016 (UTC) reply

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Mini-job

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The result of the discussion was retarget. -- Tavix ( talk) 15:22, 22 November 2016 (UTC) reply

Retarget all four to Mini job, for now. This may not be as obvious as it seems, because (as IP editor) I've tagged Mini job today as a {{ merge to}} the current target, marginal employment, but until we have (probably silent) consensus to do that merge, these should be retargeted as {{ R from other punctuation}}. I've tagged all for now as {{ R from other name}} (not yet any as {{ R from plural}}). Si Trew ( talk) 16:14, 13 November 2016 (UTC) reply

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WOOOOOOOOOO

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The result of the discussion was Deleted by User:RHaworth after listing as WP:G6 and WP:SNOW by ( non-admin closure) Si Trew ( talk) 10:28, 15 November 2016 (UTC) reply

Completing nomination on behalf of Carrot official, who added the discussion banner to the redirect but was confused as to how to add the listing here, and has not as yet given a reason for discussion. Also pinging Tompw who was involved in a brief discussion on Carrot official's talk page. Ivanvector ( Talk/ Edits) 15:44, 13 November 2016 (UTC) reply

Oh, actually, they did give a reason: "This seems like an implausible redirect to me. Carrot official ( talk) 00:23, 13 November 2016 (UTC)" Ivanvector ( Talk/ Edits) 15:48, 13 November 2016 (UTC) reply

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Time craft

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The result of the discussion was keep. -- Tavix ( talk) 15:20, 22 November 2016 (UTC) reply

I'm not finding evidence that this term is synonymous with its target, or a term at all for that matter. Most results I get when searching the redirect in external search engines are for names of unnotable businesses. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:22, 3 November 2016 (UTC) reply

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