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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 11, 2016.

Bluish-slate

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The result of the discussion was speedy deleted G6: Wikipedia:Neelix mass deletions. -- Tavix ( talk) 23:51, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply

Another Neelix color variation im not 100% sure of. The article says slate gray has a "tinge of azure". Azure is a variation of blue, and i'm not sure if this redirect would work because it might be confusing. MrLinkinPark333 ( talk) 23:40, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply

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Future lorenz

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk) 18:07, 18 June 2016 (UTC) reply

Confusing and possibly misleading since the redirect is not mentioned in the target article. Steel1943 ( talk) 23:38, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply

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Future funk

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The result of the discussion was delete.---- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 14:51, 18 June 2016 (UTC) reply

The redirect is not mentioned in the target article, so the connection is unclear. Also, this redirect formerly targeted Neurofunk which also doesn't have this redirect mentioned. Steel1943 ( talk) 23:32, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply

  • Delete Although there's a Reddit that tries to define this term, it needs to be clarified in the article itself to be useful. Not much in news and book sources for notability of this genre. AngusWOOF ( barksniff) 21:20, 13 June 2016 (UTC) reply
  • delete I'm also seeing that it tends to mean "anything with the word 'funk' which might be 'future'". And since George Clinton seems to be involved, wouldn't that make it the "once and future funk"? At any rate, if there is a definite genre, then this should be an article, not a redirect. Mangoe ( talk) 10:55, 14 June 2016 (UTC) reply
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Future beats

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk) 18:05, 18 June 2016 (UTC) reply

The redirect is not mentioned in the target article. Thus, the connection between the two terms is unclear. Also, most searches on search engines for "future beats" seem to return results for Reddit boards and an unrelated company. Steel1943 ( talk) 23:28, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply

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Gladiators (2000)

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The result of the discussion was delete.---- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 14:51, 18 June 2016 (UTC) reply

I believe this is more confusing than it's worth. It's ambiguous between Gladiator (2000 film) and Gladiators 2000. 4 page views in the last 90 days shows that this is not getting any significant use, so it's best to delete it. -- Tavix ( talk) 20:08, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply

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Gabriela Cowperthwaite

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The result of the discussion was delete.---- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 14:51, 18 June 2016 (UTC) reply

Blackfish is not the only film that Gabriela Cowperthwaite has ever made. See imdb. The link Gabriela Cowperthwaite should be left as red link to encourage others to write an article about the subject. Quest for Truth ( talk) 17:20, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply

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Fastest orbit

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The result of the discussion was no consensus, default to keep. According to the discussion below, the redirect title is ambiguous (so delete), but the current target is the most plausible we've got (so keep). Deryck C. 12:12, 19 June 2016 (UTC) reply

It seems unclear how or why the target of the redirect is declared "fastest orbit". Steel1943 ( talk) 22:05, 2 June 2016 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Greatest movie villains

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The result of the discussion was no consensus, default to keep. According to the discussion below, the redirect title is ambiguous (so delete), but the current target is the most plausible we've got (so keep). Deryck C. 12:12, 19 June 2016 (UTC) reply

This redirect seems to have WP:NPOV issues simply because it redirects to an article which it 1) is not the official name and 2) is based on only one entity's opinion: the American Film Institute. If this target was a list based in some sort of ranking system by several sources (such as an article with the name List of greatest movie villains by rankings), then this would be a bit of a different story since the target article wouldn't be reliant on one source. Steel1943 ( talk) 21:48, 2 June 2016 (UTC) reply

  • Target article relies on one source, but as long as that article doesn't get deleted, and as long as there isn't an alternative list of greatest movie villains by some other source (or combination of sources), in which case this title should be converted to a dab page, or some other appropriate redirect target, this seems like the most likely article someone typing in "Greatest movie villains" would be looking for. Rlendog ( talk) 22:42, 2 June 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Keep seems spot on. -- Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) ( talk) 22:48, 2 June 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per WP:NPOV and probably WP:WORLDVIEW. The American Film Institute's list does not constitute the greatest movie villians—simply their opinion up until 2003 (so great movie villians like Heath Ledger's Joker isn't on the list). Futhermore, the list is an American one, and doesn't include Bollywood, Tollywood, etc., which probably have some great movie villians as well. -- Tavix ( talk) 02:47, 10 June 2016 (UTC) reply
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The smallest positive integer that does not have an entry on Wikipedia

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Interesting number paradox. (non-admin closure) SST flyer 05:47, 20 June 2016 (UTC) reply

The redirect doesn't seem like an official name for the redirect's target, and the redirect seems to contradict itself since it targets the subject on Wikipedia which it refers. So ... delete. Steel1943 ( talk) 21:24, 2 June 2016 (UTC) reply

Feel free to delete the page, it was just a joke. -- Peskoj ( talk) 22:14, 2 June 2016 (UTC) reply

Thanks Peskoj. I have placed a {{ Db-g7}} tag on the redirect. Steel1943 ( talk) 22:19, 2 June 2016 (UTC) reply
...And since Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) has now voted otherwise below, I have reverted my speedy deletion tag. Steel1943 ( talk) 23:12, 2 June 2016 (UTC) reply
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Arizona League Diamondbacks

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The result of the discussion was create article. -- Tavix ( talk) 00:06, 21 June 2016 (UTC) reply

The Arizona League consists of fourteen teams; thirteen have their own articles, but the Diamondbacks are redirected to the parent league. Delete to encourage creation of an article, since it's rather silly to have one of the fourteen a redirect and the other thirteen articles. Nyttend ( talk) 12:45, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply

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True world group

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk) 00:05, 21 June 2016 (UTC) reply

Not listed in the list. Anarchyte ( work | talk) 07:50, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply

References

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Four Seasons Hotel Bangkok

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The result of the discussion was delete all.---- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 14:51, 18 June 2016 (UTC) reply

Similar to a previous RFD, these individual properties are not mentioned at all at the target article. A WP:REDLINK could show that there isn't any information on these properties so someone won't end up confused or disappointed. -- Tavix ( talk) 07:19, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply

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Condilicious

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The result of the discussion was delete.---- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 14:51, 18 June 2016 (UTC) reply

Delete, this does not appear to be a noteworthy nickname. -- Tavix ( talk) 05:34, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply

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Mars Won

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The result of the discussion was delete both.---- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 14:51, 18 June 2016 (UTC) reply

This is misleading, nothing on this page could be called "Mars Won." Has Mars ever won anything? -- Tavix ( talk) 05:29, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply

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Incomplete list of colors and shades

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The result of the discussion was delete.---- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 14:52, 18 June 2016 (UTC) reply

This seems like an implausible search term, and there's nothing to suggest that Wikipedia's lists of colors is incomplete. -- Tavix ( talk) 01:45, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply

It would have to be incomplete, since people (especially in marketing, décor, and other such fields) come up with new color names all the time. The issue is that most lists on WP are incomplete, and we don't need to label them as such.  —  SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  06:33, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply
I'm well aware of that, but what I'm saying is that the Wikipedia list isn't labeled as incomplete (eg: with the {{ expand list}} template). -- Tavix ( talk) 06:35, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply
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Maliciously

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The result of the discussion was withdrawn. -- Tavix ( talk) 17:47, 17 June 2016 (UTC) reply
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

(Neelix) These have been nominated before, but the question was one of which target would work best, not whether or not they were actually useful. I think they should be deleted as uncommon word forms, because Wikipedia is not a dictionary. -- Tavix ( talk) 01:31, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply

Actually, a lot has changed since last time this came up. Redirects from uncommon word forms have since been regularly deleted in recent months at RFD, so it's actually quite plausible that consensus can change this time around (and I'm one of those people who !voted keep last time, BTW). -- Tavix ( talk) 06:40, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply
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Jumpy castle

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The result of the discussion was split decision: I find consensus to delete Joy Jump and to retarget Jumpy castle to Inflatable castle. -- Tavix ( talk) 18:13, 18 June 2016 (UTC) reply
Also nominating: Joy JumpInflatable

Again never heard anyone say "Jumpy castle" or "Joy jump" Pointless redirects – Davey2010 Talk 01:13, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply

Having read the comments I've realized my rationale should've been worded much better than what it is and so I apologize for that, It was never my intention to come across as "I've never heard of it so delete it", I just assumed no one actually used them so hence assumed they were useless, If people do indeed use them then I have no objections to keeping, Thanks, – Davey2010 Talk 01:46, 13 June 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Keep pending actual evidence these terms are not in use. WP:IDONTKNOWIT is an argument to avoid in deletion discussions. The question is whether these terms show up in any RS; it is correct that we don't need redirects for every childish turn of phrase that exists.  —  SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  06:30, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Delete joy jump. I'm finding essentially nothing relevant on Google: lots of entirely false positives (e.g. I gotta let the whole world know Jump for joy Jump for joy, plus Hexes & Willy Joy's "Jump" remix), irrelevant things ( a video by this title, women who would appear in the phone book as "Jump, Joy"), and only one thing that sounds at all relevant, an Australian company named " Joy Jump" that operates bouncy castles. No reason to keep a title merely because it's used by a comparatively small company in New South Wales. If this is Australian slang, keeping would be in order, but you'd need to provide solid evidence of that. Nyttend ( talk) 13:04, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Retarget jumpy castle to Inflatable castle. Google searches find lots of results, beginning on the first page, in which the term is used to refer to bouncy castles. Nyttend ( talk) 13:14, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Joy Jump, keep Jumpy castle. I've heard many people say jumpy castle, but this isn't about that; it's a common term. As for Joy Jump, I can't find anything that uses it except the Australian company that Nyttend mentioned. As for it being Australian slang, it isn't. I'm using google.com.au and nothing else is coming up. Anarchyte ( work | talk) 13:13, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Joy Jump, Retarget jumpy castle to Inflatable_castle. I've heard that term used often to refer to them. PaleAqua ( talk) 18:02, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Joy Jump, sounds like a particular brand, and it gets confused with Jump For Joy which is a dab page full of album and song titles. Jumpy castle search on News goes to a bunch of articles that use the term "bouncy castle". AngusWOOF ( barksniff) 01:40, 13 June 2016 (UTC) reply
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Single Player

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The result of the discussion was procedural close, to be reopened upon RM decision. Deryck C. 12:09, 19 June 2016 (UTC) reply

Follow up to Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 November 13#Singleplayer games. These aren't created by Neelix, but the rationale remains the same: a single-player game is not necessarily a single-player video game (eg: solitaire card games, pinball, puzzles). -- Tavix ( talk) 00:45, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply

Just for the record, the nomination is to delete them all, not redirect them elsewhere, judging by the previous nomination of similar redirects.  —  SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  06:17, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: I can see the rationale, but simply deleting these without cleanup will create a large number of undesirable redlinks, and would not deal with similar redirects like Multiplayer to Multiplayer video game. The most sensible solution is to renamed Multiplayer game to Multi- and single-player games, and massage the text there a little to better encompass the new title, then send all of these redirects there. We do not need to account for the silly case of "single-player instrument" since that describes nearly all musical instruments, and neither readers nor editors use the bare phrase "single-player" or "multi-player" (hyphenated or not) to refer to musical instruments, only to games (and sports, which are a subset of games). But, yes, it does not apply solely to video games by any means. At any rate, I think this should be resolved with WP:RM, not (or not entirely) RfD.  —  SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  06:17, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply

    This RM is now open, here.  —  SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  02:10, 13 June 2016 (UTC) reply

  • Comment: Here's a count of the incoming mainspace links to these redirects, almost all from video game articles. I expect this is primarily due to Single-player being one of the two accepted values in Template:Infobox video game's mode field:
Single Player – 193
Single player – 3392
Single-player – 4547
Single-player game – 32
Single-player games – 1
Singleplayer – 52
-- The1337gamer ( talk) 08:14, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Delete all except Single player, Single-player and Single-player game. Anarchyte ( work | talk) 08:22, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply
    @ Anarchyte: I don't understand your !vote, as it does not actually solve the issue at hand. Why would you keep some and delete the others? ~ Mable ( chat) 11:44, 12 June 2016 (UTC) reply
    @ Maplestrip: I voted keep for those ones because they have a high number of wikilinks, and removal of a link in over 3000 articles wouldn't be that beneficial. I'd be willing to vote delete all if they were all unlinked or relinked to single-player video game, but I'm not sure if that's possible as I've never seen it done before. (there may be a bot that exists somewhere that I'm not familar with). Anarchyte ( work | talk) 11:48, 12 June 2016 (UTC) reply
    I personally don't think "it's too much effort to delete those" is a very good argument for keeping them. Either the page they redirect to isn't logical and expected, or it is. ~ Mable ( chat) 12:02, 12 June 2016 (UTC) reply
    Looking at the "What links here" for the redirects, the majority come from video-game related articles. Anarchyte ( work | talk) 12:07, 12 June 2016 (UTC) reply
    Pointing out that cleanup work has to be done isn't necessarily an objection to making a change, but it does indicate that work actually has to be done to make the deletion practical. As I suggested above, there is a better solution, anyway, which is to rename the article on multi- vs. single-player games (generally, not just video games), and redirect all such terms to that page. This produces no problems of any kind; in fact, even video games articles linking there will be fine, since it will still explain the difference between single- and multi-player games well enough that its applicability to the videogaming context will be entirely clear.  —  SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  01:58, 13 June 2016 (UTC) reply
Changed to wait for result of RM. Anarchyte ( work | talk) 07:29, 13 June 2016 (UTC) reply
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Blizzard of '01

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The result of the discussion was delete.---- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 14:52, 18 June 2016 (UTC) reply

Delete, this blizzard is not mentioned in the target article, and it's not a good candidate for retargeting due to its ambiguity. This could refer to a blizzard in 2001, 1901, 1801, etc. -- Tavix ( talk) 00:41, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply

Looking at the history, you would be correct. -- Tavix ( talk) 03:33, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom, and because it could also refer to any blizzard on such a date anywhere, not just Buffalo, NY. Its particularly confusing, because the "'01" date style is almost always used to refer to 1901, and most users will not think it refers to 2001.  —  SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  06:27, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply
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Clear liquids

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The result of the discussion was delete.---- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 14:52, 18 June 2016 (UTC) reply

WP:SURPRISE! Clear liquids would not be a liquid diet. There is a section called "clear liquid diet," but redirecting clear liquid or its variants there would be a WP:PTM. -- Tavix ( talk) 00:38, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply

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Childbed

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The result of the discussion was Wiktionary redirect. JohnCD ( talk) 10:35, 20 June 2016 (UTC) reply

(Neelix) I'm afraid this is confusing since it's not mentioned at the target article. Most search results I get are for either an infant bed or Puerperal infections (via "childbed fever"). -- Tavix ( talk) 00:23, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply

No, and readers searching for the term won't be able to figure out what it means either since there isn't a mention at the target, hence the potential for confusion. -- Tavix ( talk) 18:07, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply
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Abortion alternatives

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The result of the discussion was delete. The consensus is that it's not a good target from the reader's point of view. Deryck C. 12:03, 19 June 2016 (UTC) reply

This is obviously not a good target; pregnancy isn't an alternative to abortion and I usually hear adoption being the main "alternative." I'm wondering if there is a good target that discusses this. If not, delete it. -- Tavix ( talk) 00:15, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply

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With squirrel

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The result of the discussion was delete.---- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 14:52, 18 June 2016 (UTC) reply

This phrase seems to be a novel or very obscure synonym for an article name. There is no mention of squirrels at the target article. -- Tavix ( talk) 00:08, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply

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