The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was Nomination withdrawn -- PhantomSteve ( Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:45, 5 November 2009 (UTC) reply

Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/BioWare

This was my fault. I had delusions of grandeur and I tried to move too far, too fast (though User:Ninjalemming apparently moved even faster when he created this) and create a WikiProject for BioWare games and technologies. So far, we've achieved less than nothing.

I may one day attempt to start it up again, but I think that, right now, it's time to throw in the towel and call it in until I can get better with coding and organising things.

Also, if I've put this in the wrong place, apologies. This is only the second time I've submitted anything for deletion and it's the first time with Twinkle. Thejadefalcon ^{Sing your song} _{The bird's seeds} 11:34, 4 November 2009 (UTC) reply

• Comment Have you discussed this with the other creator ( Ninjalemming) and the members ( xeno, Kung Fu Man and Silentcid)? Xeno is an experience editor (and a sysop), and Kung Fu Man is likewise a very experienced editor. If they agree with this deletion, I'd be more inclined to !vote for deletion. I have left notices of this MfD for Kung Fu Man and Silentcid (Ninjalemming and Xeno having already being notified) -- PhantomSteve ( Contact Me, My Contribs) 12:03, 4 November 2009 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: Currently, xeno is on a semi-WikiBreak until the 9th, so he may or may not notice anything. As for the others, I was going to notify them in a second or two (if not already done) now that this is showing up properly on the page. -- Thejadefalcon ^{Sing your song} _{The bird's seeds} 12:08, 4 November 2009 (UTC) reply

  Comment If Xeno's on a wikibreak this discussion cannot end till he has had is complete input, wence he gets back he most likely will. 'The Ninja lemming' 18:12, 4 November 2009 (UTC) reply

• Keep I think I remember reading somewhere that WikiProjects are marked historical, not deleted? And either way I can't see what can be gained from deleting it at this juncture, if you intend to work on it later I say leave it be. BlazerKnight ( talk) 12:28, 4 November 2009 (UTC) reply

  Comment: I have no idea when I'll work on it though. It could be three days, it could be in three years. It all depends on when I get the requisite knowledge of coding to make it... well, better than the junk it is right now. -- Thejadefalcon ^{Sing your song} _{The bird's seeds} 12:34, 4 November

2009 (UTC)

• Comment I should work on the stuff properly when I have time which will be after christmas; but Blazer's right, Wikiprojects are Historical and can't be deleted due to large amount linkages to other articles and users. Also it does really matter about the coding level, just because some one has good codng doesn't mean they are good editors, and most people on wikipedia (including Xeno) could help with complecations. 'The Ninja lemming' 18:12, 4 November 2009 (UTC) reply

• Keep Absent any actual reason for deletion, a six-month old project with active editors as members ought to be kept. Collect ( talk) 14:29, 4 November 2009 (UTC) reply

  Comment: That's the thing. None of us are really "active" for the project. We're active on Wikipedia, but not on the project itself. -- Thejadefalcon ^{Sing your song} _{The bird's seeds} 15:07, 4 November 2009 (UTC) reply

  CommentBut Ace, having a wikiproject doesn't mean masses of editing on the page, you've been editing alot of Mass Effect and just general Bioware stuff meaning you are active on the project and if anyything big came up on it you would have an input, as you have now. 'The Ninja lemming' 18:12, 4 November 2009 (UTC) reply

• Keep Per my above comments and that which will proceed; such as deletion of this project and all subsequent sub-pages and relaions to currently existing and editing articles seems too much like wasted time and effort if it will be remade later (such like after the release of Mass Effect 2), whilst this time could be used to constructively edit mainspace. 'The Ninja lemming' 18:12, 4 November 2009 (UTC) reply
• Comment If you all get consensus within the wikiproject to abandon it, then you don't need an MfD process to mark it historical or delete it, or whatever. You can just speedy anything that needs to be deleted as uncontroversial. Gigs ( talk) 01:37, 5 November 2009 (UTC) reply
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions. MrKIA11 ( talk) 15:10, 5 November 2009 (UTC) reply
• Keep I see no particular reason to get rid of a task force page that seems completely reasonable for the project (there's plenty of developer-specific task forces). It may not always be promoting the articles under it, but there's more than a handful that do qualify and with two recent released from the company on the way (Dragon Age and ME2) there may be more interest in it. -- MASEM ( t) 15:21, 5 November 2009 (UTC) reply
• Comment: Very well. If this is the consensus of everyone, then I withdraw the request. At the time, I think my thought processes were something along the lines of that it would be better to get rid of it than to just leave it sitting around unfinished with no-one touching it. Obviously I was wrong and I just proved how much of a moron I am. -- Thejadefalcon ^{Sing your song} _{The bird's seeds} 15:24, 5 November 2009 (UTC) reply
  • You're not a moron, mate! I for one can understand your reasoning, but just happen to think that in this case it is incorrect! I will perform a non-admin closure -- PhantomSteve ( Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:45, 5 November 2009 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.