The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a
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The result of the discussion was snowball keep. –
xenotalk 05:18, 14 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Speedy keep. Per all the "Keep" rationales of the last MFD.
Dr.K.logos 05:45, 11 July 2009 (UTC)reply
keep, it is not an article.
Bubba73(talk), 06:24, 11 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Keep We have Barnstars, Userboxes, etc.
Rmhermen (
talk) 06:25, 11 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Keep. I'm just a few days away from getting my "Master Editor" award. Then you can delete it. Will Bebacktalk 10:07, 11 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Comment Exactly. We're here to write an encyclopedia, not get medals.
DrewSmithWhat I've done 23:24, 11 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Keep ...although maybe we mark it as "humour" seeing as quality and not quantity really matter. We don't want people thinking the goal is lots of edits. (
talk→BWilkins←track) 12:41, 11 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Keep.. most essays in the project space aren't "appropriate for an encyclopedia" either, should we delete them too?
GrooveDog (
talk) (
Review) 16:47, 11 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Keep, for the same reasons we have barnstars. It's encouraging to be rewarded for your hard work. Nom is, by his own admission, going through a "massive, and disorienting upheaval" of his life and could use some support to help him through this difficult period, but I sincerely hope that had nothing to do with this nomination. --
Ϫ 21:19, 11 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Coment, Thanks for the support, but this had nothing to do with the nom
DrewSmithWhat I've done 23:23, 11 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Many people like these awards and far from harming the project, they encourage people who are into awards to help the project by editing it. I think it should be kept. fr33kman-simpleWP- 22:00, 11 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Delete, A young, similar project was recently shot down in flames. Its goal was to give out similar awards, but on a different basis. The reason for deletion was "not appropriate for an encyclopedia". Why should it go and this, barnstars, and userboxes stay?
DrewSmithWhat I've done 23:23, 11 July 2009 (UTC)reply
What was the basis of the awards in that young project? And who proposed it?
Bubba73(talk), 00:18, 12 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Giving out awards for the number of vandalism reversions. But that's not the point. Apparently awards in general are inappropriate for an encyclopedia.
DrewSmithWhat I've done 06:55, 12 July 2009 (UTC)reply
There are already barnstars for vandalism reverts, but not for a specific number. Can you point me to the discussion about it?
Bubba73(talk), 15:46, 12 July 2009 (UTC)reply
The original page is gone, but I read all of those comments. It sounds like it was quite different from this.
Bubba73(talk), 01:51, 13 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Keep. But reduce the plutonium edit count to 30k to maintain proportion. Can't understand why we go up in steady stages of 4000 and then take a huge leap of 16000. --Jack | talk page 15:30, 12 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Strong Keep - These awards are the only things that keep me motivated! But I agree with BlackJack about the Plutonium Barnstar
Keep - This is no different than userboxes or barnstars, and those pages have lasted for years. Nothing has suddenly changed in the policies and made this page unacceptable here. If we get rid of this, we might as well delete navigation templates or user pages or all of the other things the average encyclopedia doesn't have. -- Commdor {Talk} 20:16, 12 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Keep They do nothing to detract from the encyclopedia. BigDunc 21:31, 12 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Keep per above. Why would you ever want to nominate this for deletion!? -FASTILY(TALK) 04:22, 13 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Delete Awards and such encourage achievement and ambition, which does more good than harm. But the service awards attempt to rank editors by edit count, which magnifies the worst habit an experienced editor can develop-- I have more edits than you, so I'm right. I'm glad that the service classifications haven't caught on as reason for allowing or denying anything. No one ever says things like "only Journeyman editors or higher should be able to serve on the Arbitration Committee". It's always X edits. But it could happen, and that would make the problem worse.
Besides, wouldn't you look silly walking around at the next meetup with a service award medal cutout taped to your chest?
Diderot'sdreams(talk) 06:04, 13 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Strong Keep: May I inquire upon what policy grounds the Delete proponents advocate their stance? I see nothing in deletion policy citing edit counts as a violation of Wikipedia policy, nor has nom proffered any explanation of why he feels this is "inappropriate" beyond a
WP:WAX argument.
RGTraynor 06:25, 13 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Keep: These service awards are fun, and besides, when I looked into them, I learned more about creating and editing templates. Like the kid says in the "Cat In the Hat" movie, "Go have NO FUN somewhere else." --
Cbdorsett (
talk) 06:28, 13 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Keep - This is nonsense. These awards are completely harmless, and help give editors a sense of accomplishment.
Nutiketaiel (
talk) 11:32, 13 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Keep: Comparable to barnstars; although I would like to see more emphasis in the lead to the statement "Please remember that time spent with and number of edits to Wikipedia are not indicative of the quality of an editor's contributions or of their diplomatic ability. "Veteran" editors have no more authority than "novice" editors." ---
Barek (
talk •
contribs) - 16:41, 13 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Also, suggest a speedy close to this MfD as it appears to be
pointy in nature. These awards were nominated following the close of
MfD for "Vandalism Patrol". Shortly after that, the nominator here began blanking barnstars and service awards from other editor's user pages (
[1],
[2]). Immediately after blanking those pages, he then added the MfD tag to the
Wikipedia:Service awards page, then posted to the author of the earlier deleted "Vandalism Patrol" content that "I've made a few edits on behalf of the vandalism patrol and the rights of editors in general. They are sure to be reverted fairly quickly, but its just to make a point."
[3]. ---
Barek (
talk •
contribs) - 16:41, 13 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Keep and expand to include awards for number of "keep" votes in MfD discussions. --
Scjessey (
talk) 19:00, 13 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Strong keep. Useful in building community. --
Steve, Sm8900 (
talk) 21:03, 13 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Comment: Hrm. Aren't we in snowball Keep country now?
RGTraynor 22:13, 13 July 2009 (UTC)reply
The snowball has become superheated steam by now.
Dr.K.logos 22:21, 13 July 2009 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a
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