The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's
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The result of the discussion was Keep - I've renamed it to Portal:Crystallography, but since a scope change can't actually be imposed by fiat, unless the portal actually expands to all Crystallography, it may well be re-renamed in the future.
WilyD08:12, 24 September 2012 (UTC)reply
The scope of this portal is so tiny as to not be functional. It's not really complete, there's no room for expansion, and there's not really enough content here for it to be worth it.
Sven ManguardWha?15:38, 15 September 2012 (UTC)reply
delete. It's been dead for a long time. Nothing preventing some surge of interest in the future, but its a useless distraction at present, IMHO. --
Smokefoot (
talk)
17:23, 15 September 2012 (UTC)reply
Following that logic, any Wikipedia article that has not been edited for a long time should be also be deleted. Also, how is it distracting? If you don't want to look at it, ignore it.
Boghog (
talk)
19:38, 15 September 2012 (UTC)reply
Keep – an important subject whose portal will hopefully be revived in the future. If it were deleted, recreating from scratch would create unnecessary additional work. Furthermore there is no harm in keeping a dormant portal.
Boghog (
talk)
19:41, 15 September 2012 (UTC)reply
Portals are for wide subjects that can support 10-20 articles, a dozen images, and then any of a quote bank, a frequently updatable in the news section, a second set of articles (say biographies), etc.). This subject is so narrow that it's never going to get a dozen articles or a dozen images. I think you're fooling yourself about your ability to make this work.
Sven ManguardWha?20:33, 15 September 2012 (UTC)reply
10-20 articles – more than 56 crystallographic Wikipedia articles already have been created
a dozen images –
User:PDBbot has uploaded tens of thousands of images of protein structures that have been solved by X-ray crystallography that are used in
Gene Wiki articles (see this
link 38,255 images in total). In addition, I have created,
uploaded, and inserted a few dozen crystallographic structures into Wikipedia articles myself.
Keep. The argument about number of articles above is denied by the fact that the portal itself lists 56 articles in the field, plus some redlinks that might be made into articles.
Category:X-ray crystallography is a sub-category of
Category:Crystallography, which contains a large number of articles. X-ray crystallography is by far the most important techigue in crystallography and the two terms are often used to mean the same thing. I suggest that this portal be renamed to
Portal:Crystallography to avoid confusion and widen its content to some extent. There is plenty of room for expansion. --
Bduke(Discussion)22:03, 15 September 2012 (UTC)reply
Thank you for your informed input, I agree with your renaming proposal, but I do have a question. Would it be possible to expand the scope further to include other related fields? I'm not familiar with the subject, but the wider the scope, the better.--SGCM(talk)01:53, 16 September 2012 (UTC)reply
I also think the renaming proposal is a good one since it would incorporate related
electron crystallography and
neutron diffraction methods. However I would be very hesitate to expand the scope any further since the subject of the portal would become too difuse. The next higher level might include things like
NMR. Merging crystallography with NMR wouild be a
forced marriage ;-) The ultimate purpose is the same, but the methods are quite different.
Boghog (
talk)
15:40, 16 September 2012 (UTC)reply
Agree to rename - the topics box is big enough showing that there is enough to support a Portal, and it's a complicated enough subject that it deserves a portal as much as DNA electrophoresis does. —
Cupco02:27, 17 September 2012 (UTC)reply
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