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Summary says, "The owner of this photo in the David Van Kriedt estate. Permission is granted by David's wife, Margot Van Kriedt and his heirs, to use this photo for non commercial purposes." Noncommercial-only licenses are not free enough for Wikipedia. This condition also probably negates the licensing tags on the image. —
Bkell (
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01:07, 4 March 2008 (UTC)reply
Note that this is a photo of a person who is no longer living. If someone feels that this image can satisfy
WP:NFCC and will write a non-free rationale for it, maybe we can keep it as a non-free image. —
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01:12, 4 March 2008 (UTC)reply
I've added a non-free rationale, but I'm no expert so I don't know if this is sufficient. I know that the user who added the photo is also the owner / co-owner of it, if that helps, though I doubt he took the photo himself.
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This picture is of my late wife (LLLL = LinuxLad's Lovely Lass!)and has been on my user page for some 18 months. It relates (clearly) to both to my interests and work on WP. It's unfortunate the 2nd poster didn't spot & resolve the name conflict when he posted a conflicting image with the same title a year later - but the onus is clearly with him..
If there is a way to have the picture on my WP page without this conflict then I shall be happy to oblige, but I will need to be informed of a route because I don't know one. Tread carefully please. Bob aka
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It has come to my attention that the subject in this image is not who I originally believed it to be. It serves no useful purpose for Wikipedia with an unknown subject. I am the uploader -
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Delete - It was on the
conical straw hat page when there was no other picture of someone wearing a conical straw hat. As the uploader, I have no objection to deleting it now that has been replaced there with a much better picture. However, what do you mean by "absent uploader?" --
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I didn't upload this image. I attempted to enhance the image, realized I'd failed, and replaced the original image. I agree it should be deleted.—
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Go ahead and remove the file I initially uploaded as long as the newer pictures in its place remain: they have a much cleaner look to them; provided they are free to use, the cleaned up edited look is nice.
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Just a note: the page that the file originally was used on was marked as a copy vio a few days ago, and the author of the page and I are currently trying to work the problem out. The image itself is not a copy vio and will probably be used on the page once the copy vio problem is solved, hopefully within a couple of days.
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03:38, 5 March 2008 (UTC)reply
The dispute is now resolved and the page is back online. The image is no longer orphaned. I have no comment on whether this image is encyclopedic or not; if you feel the need to delete the image on these grounds, I will not argue.
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20:15, 6 March 2008 (UTC)reply
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Keep (note that I am the original uploader). This image is used in particular in the article
Onyx (interception system); it is the only public example of an interception report by this system, and so is of encyclopedic interest in this article. In addition, it was the topic of a widely-publicized court case in Switzerland (see description and refs in the article); while most of the text has no encyclopedic value, the copy of the full report as an image is important in terms of understanding what was the subject of the court case. As such, it justifies fair use for the image and its presence here.
Schutz (
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23:24, 4 March 2008 (UTC)reply
I should probably also mention that I have spent a lot of time trying to get this image released under a free licence (PD); I have talked to many people involved, they are all happy about the idea, but none of them feels that he has the power to do it. I am optimistic, but since I am dealing with a large public administration, everything takes time.
Schutz (
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14:09, 6 March 2008 (UTC)reply
Keep I was about to close this as Keep, but figured I should give my support and hope another admin would do the same with more support. I think the image is more meaningful than simply copying the text. One could read the text of a letter, but seeing the original is perhaps more meaningful. It is properly licensed and rational'ed.
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