- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by
Fastily (
talk ·
contribs ·
blocks ·
protections ·
deletions ·
page moves ·
rights ·
RfA)
AnomieBOT
⚡
08:05, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
reply
-
File:Bowsette by Yuske Murata.png (
delete |
talk |
history |
links |
logs) – uploaded by
Kung Fu Man (
notify |
contribs |
uploads |
upload log).
Fails
WP:FREER. Bowsette is famous as a character that was drawn by countless fans, both professional and amateur. Any of the free images in
commons:Category:Bowsette are equally effective at portraying what Bowsette looks like. Although it was drawn by a professional mangaka, this image is still just fan art like any of the other images.
IagoQnsi (
talk)
05:49, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
reply
- I have serious qualms if *any* of the Bowesette images on Wikipedia commons can actually be considered free use because they're all clearly derivative of Nintendo properties. Additionally the usage in the article is to illustrate actual professional artists offering their own renditions and design changes to the 'meme', something that also can't be satisfied with any of the Free Use alternatives.--
Kung Fu Man (
talk)
21:46, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.Relisting comment: Need more input, as currently it's not clear that the free image is a) actually free and b) actually a good replacement for the non-free image here discussed.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk)
09:52, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
reply
- Delete. I don't see a
WP:NFCC#8 reason for any non-free fan art beyond the original one by Ayyk92. The original one is described in detail in a way that needs the image to support the following: "Bowser now transformed into a female character resembling Peach but with a black strapless dress, fangs, large horns protruding from the sides of the head, and Bowser's spiked attire and shell." Try imaging that without an accompanying image. As for any further fan art, the article says that lots of it were produced and drops a few names of artists, but does not even try to discuss the appearance of their work. All other statements about visual aspects are general and not tied to specific works: "some renders", "a bulk of the art", etc. Of these, some are specific enough not to need an image: what "darker skin and/or red hair" is evident from the text alone. Some is quite abstract, more about the idea than any of its specific manifestations, and it would be serious
WP:OR to tie any specific images to statements like "overtly male-gazey, dripping with horrendously over-the-top, seam-bursting cliches". –
Finnusertop (
talk ⋅
contribs)
13:21, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
reply
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. —
JJMC89 (
T·
C)
06:56, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
reply
-
File:Lam Siu-Por not clapping.gif (
delete |
talk |
history |
links |
logs) – uploaded by
Elementautumn (
notify |
contribs |
uploads |
upload log).
That subject was not clapping whilst others were is adequately described by text and does not require an image to understand this. Fails
WP:NFCC#8.
Whpq (
talk)
20:45, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
reply
- Keep: I don't agree with the claim that the image violates
WP:NFCC#8. First of all, many unique historical images can be described by text (e.g. the image of
August Landmesser) and it doesn't mean that we won't show those images in Wikipedia. Second, even if
Lam Siu-Por's image can be described by text, it is still not "adequately" described by text. As we can see, the image can "significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic" as
WP:NFCC#8 requires. It is difficult to describe how the atmosphere is when the other officials were clapping while Lam was not. Does the text describe how exciting Carrie Lam and other officials were? Can the text accurately describe the eye contact of Lam with the camera (it is also one of the focus of the public discussion)? How about the other body languages of Lam? Several paragraphs of words are still insufficient to describe these tiny but important details of this very moment, which cannot be better described by this image. This image is unique and to conclude, the image fulfills
WP:NFCC#8.--
Elementautumn (
talk)
20:54, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
reply
- Delete I'm sorry but this clearly fails
WP:NFCC#8 the image doesn't "significantly increase the readers' understanding of the topic. You can adequately describe this situation with text alone. As for the
other images argument it doesn't really hold any weight. --
Cameron11598
(Talk)
07:16, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
reply
- Comment right now this is file is heading the deletion route, but
Elementautumn brings up some points that could be considered if the article text was amended. In particular, any sourced discussion in the article about how enthusiastic vs. unenthusiastic the officials appeared would certainly be the kind of content that would benefit from an image, possibly to the
WP:NFCC#8 degree. We all know what clapping and not clapping looks like, but appearing (un)enthusiastic is a different story. –
Finnusertop (
talk ⋅
contribs)
23:26, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
reply
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: no consensus.
Sandstein
07:51, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
reply
-
File:Golden Lion size.jpg (
delete |
talk |
history |
links |
logs) – uploaded by
Ramòn DeLa Porta (
notify |
contribs |
uploads |
upload log).
Wikipedia:NFCC#1.
There is a free copyright and similar topic image.
SCP-2000 (
talk)
16:36, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
reply
- Just for the note, Italy lacks
freedom of panorama especially for buildings and three-dimensional artworks (
c:COM:FOP Italy).
George Ho (
talk)
17:36, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
reply
- Is a picture of
Oshri Cohen holding the award acceptable per Commons rules and copyright law?
George Ho (
talk)
17:41, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
reply
- @
George Ho:I think the image acceptable per rule.--
SCP-2000 (
talk)
11:06, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
reply
- Would it be possible to crop the image if it were used, to remove Cohen's face? I'd rather not have him be the "main" image of the Golden Lion article and thereby get
UNDUE prominence. (If so, then delete and used a cropped version of the Cohen image.) –
John M Wolfson (
talk •
contribs)
18:49, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
reply
- Without knowing or the file page describing where the photo was taken, I am uncertain whether the award portion of the Cohen image is suitable for Commons. Strangely, photos of other people holding their own awards, like
Neil Patrick Harris,
one guy holding an Oscar, and
one supporting actress holding an Emmy, aren't yet deleted. I found
one 2012 Commons discussions about the issue. By reading the discussion, those photos were supposed to be generally discouraged (unless cropping out awards is possible?), and de minimis may not apply. --
George Ho (
talk)
05:42, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
reply
- @
Fastily: No one is arguing that there is a free equivalent of the award. People are arguing that there is a free equivalent of the photo, making it
WP:FREER than this. –
Finnusertop (
talk ⋅
contribs)
20:31, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.Relisting comment: Needs a bit more discussion on whether the free equivalent is actually equivalent, as there are legitimate points on both sides.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk)
10:00, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
reply
- Added the image as temporary 2nd image.
George Ho (
talk)
02:29, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
reply
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.