This hi-res panoramic of the St. Louis skyline was taken Labor Day Weekend 2007 from East St. Louis. It is a intriguing classic view of a beautiful city and a great compliment to the St. Louis main article.
Proposed caption
St. Louis Skyline taken from East St. Louis. (needs more St. Louis detail)
Weak oppose although Edit 2 is much improved. The word "intriguing" comes to mind less than "clichéd", sorry (I can think of at least three good skyline views of Chicago, for example). If you want a nicer word, go with "classic". Problems include the distracting ironwork in the water on the right, and the fact that both the tallest (
One Metropolitan Square) and most interesting (Old Courthouse) buildings are obscured. (Compare
this non-pano commons image.) Granted any given angle will have deficiencies, but I think this is such an easily obtained shot that we should want a slightly better one to be ranked as our best, especially for an, ahem, classic shot. --
Dhartung |
Talk06:22, 5 September 2007 (UTC)reply
Comment The caption will be reworked by others at Wikipedia. I am submitting the photo with an open caption so 'classic' is fine with me and I recommend it be used. I walked up and down the East STL shore to find the best shot to take a balanced photo with an unobstructed view and this photo is the result. As an artist I like the iron work in the front because anyone who has been to this area knows that there is a large industrial base and this at least doesn't comically remove all of it.
Buphoff15:57, 5 September 2007 (UTC)reply
Comment The ironwork is a visible, and in my opinion, prominent part of the riverfront. It's extremely visible from the Poplar Street Bridge and the Arch, becoming almost a part of the skyline.
Rwhealey21:36, 7 September 2007 (UTC)reply
Support Edit2 This image looks very balanced as it is, and any attempt to take this picture from another spot would (IMO) make the Arch go out-of-balance. I actually like the ironwork on the lower right. If someone can take a much better picture (which will not be very easy), there are still de-feature options for this one, but I don't think we need to go there for a long while. –
sgeurekat•c10:07, 5 September 2007 (UTC)reply
Comment Although there's little to oppose here – it's obviously a really clear & informative photo – there's not much to actively support either. None of the versions have really good contrast or colour balance and the whole panorama looks around 30% wider than it needs to be.
mikaultalk13:38, 5 September 2007 (UTC)reply
Support Edit 2 I love the composition of the photograph, the arch is very eye catching! The colours seem good and it is clear enough. Cant see any other errors --Childzy ¤ Talk19:58, 5 September 2007 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Now I don't know for sure, but it seems as though this isn't the ideal view. A rusty iron 'thing' on the right edge of the panorama (surely it could have been avoided by moving a little further to the left, or cropping it a bit, or a combination of the two?)...
Diliff |
(Talk)(Contribs)19:06, 8 September 2007 (UTC)reply
CommentThe "rusty iron thing" can be cropped or photoshopped out but it detracts from the overall prospective of the shot. Also, anyone who has ever taken a shot of STL from any angles knows the inherent difficulty of the Mississippi's industrial facilities and numerous obstructing bridges.
Buphoff04:20, 9 September 2007 (UTC)reply