Support as co-nominator (prefer black, but fine with either) – —
Chris Woodrich (
talk) 01:54, 21 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Support as co-nominator – (I am fine with either background, though I prefer pink
)Hafspajen (
talk) 10:51, 21 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Support (either) - Great detail, good EV.--
Godot13 (
talk) 03:24, 21 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Oppose, Support with white background - This image would be better served on a white background, as shown on the
NGA museum website. Reason: the rounded edge of the painting disappears fused into the background toward the left. This artifact does not occur on a white background. Also, the "black square" is distracting from the actual painting. The black background could easily be changed to white, in which case this is an obvious Support.
Coldcreation (
talk) 05:55, 21 August 2015 (UTC)reply
I agree with Coldcreation about the black background, but the white background loses the detail of the physical edge of the tondo. Can we see it in another colour? Toasted almond or glacier grey?
Belle (
talk) 07:34, 21 August 2015 (UTC)reply
I think the physical edge of the tondo is essential to the image. Perhaps the larger file (with the black background) should be modified by changing the background to white (rather than gray), yet retaining the edge of the tondo. This is a relatively straightforward (simple) modification to make.
Coldcreation (
talk) 08:52, 21 August 2015 (UTC)reply
A problem with changing colors like this is that there are generally fringes left over. The original Google file (still accessible) has a black background, and thus it's possible that, even if the background were changed, there'd be some black fringing left. That being said, the majority of our FPs with a neutral background have a black background. —
Chris Woodrich (
talk) 10:01, 21 August 2015 (UTC)reply
"Fringing" takes about 5 minutes to do away with. That is not a problem. What is a problem is the black background. It is most certainly not neutral. It is blacker than
Malevich's Black Square. White is neutral since Wikipedia article have a white background (white on white). Any other color would not be (i.e., a square would be visible). It is not because the majority of FPs have a black background that this image should too. If anyone would like, I will do away with the black background (along with any residual fringing).
Coldcreation (
talk) 13:13, 21 August 2015 (UTC)reply
You are welcome to do so and upload it as an alt. —
Chris Woodrich (
talk) 14:20, 21 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Note, the painting itself no longer fuses with the background. There is no fringing, yet the tondo is visible just as in the image with a black background. I will proceed, just as a test, to post this image (with the white background) into the Wikipedia article about the painting. Feel free to revert it, but consider the possibility that the work is better seen like this (without the black square).
Coldcreation (
talk) 18:06, 21 August 2015 (UTC)reply
So, now that we have the same image on a neutral white background, I would recommend this new upload be the Featured picture candidate, rather than the "black square" version. Notice how the painting stands out now, in all its roundness, design and color. Does anyone agree,
Chris Woodrich,
Hafspajen?
Coldcreation (
talk) 19:16, 21 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Just put on it ALT and see what people say.
Hafspajen (
talk) 00:01, 22 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Not sure how. Do I just nominate the new version? 06:46
Coldcreation (
talk) 17:52, 22 August 2015 (UTC)reply