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I am nominating this for featured list because I feel that these types of lists on United States presidential elections have a great potential to be FL. I almost completely re-formatted the list, added a lead, and key for political parties. It lists all the elections in which Alaska participated, with votes and percentage. I intend to make similar changes to all the lists within this series. I would respond to every comment, and try to bring this nomination to FL standards whenever needed. With one of the list ( United States presidential elections in Hawaii) currently a FLC, with multiple supports, I nominate this too. Thanks! (46 states more to go) – Kavyansh.Singh ( talk) 02:25, 27 September 2021 (UTC) reply
I'm coming to this discussion through WikiProject Alaska. Most FLs under that project came about because someone viewed the 50 states as venues to push the same MOS and the same sources so they could collect a whole bunch of hats, disregarding any context unique to that state. Your nomination statement leads me to believe that's the case here.
The biggest problem I see is the list's exclusive focus on the popular vote. In presidential elections, the actual election occurs via the Electoral College and there's zero mention of that process. For example, how many electors does Alaska have (it's always been three), where and when do the electors meet and any details about those meetings worth mentioning, etc. In just about every election, the electors have included notable people. Is there any value in mentioning some of these people?
The article text begins with "Alaska is a state in the Western United States, on the northwest extremity of the country's west coast.". It might be wise to replace "the country's west coast" with "the North American continent". Not only does the current statement sound redundant, there's also the matter of Canada falling in between Alaska and the contiguous 48 states, leaving it open to misinterpretation by some.
The table disregards the total votes cast. Any reason why? Additionally, prior to the 1976 election, write-in votes were included with the official canvass but were not included in published results. That means the percentages are approximate but not exact, whereas later percentages are exact. I see no evidence that this has been noted, either here or in any of the individual election articles. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 02:03, 28 September 2021 (UTC) reply
So here's some context related to Alaska, though I don't know how easy this would be to source. Looking at the table, Jimmy Carter's reelection bid gained the smallest percentage of any nominee of the two dominant parties. This is not surprising to me. Between 1977 and 1979, people were regularly burning Carter and Cecil Andrus in effigy on the streets of downtown Fairbanks. Carter was deeply unpopular because of the political battle in D.C. over what became the Alaska National Interest Lands Conservation Act. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 02:18, 28 September 2021 (UTC) reply
"where and when do the electors meet"seems unnecessary to me; mostly because it is the same for every election. I made the change about including "the North American continent". As to the next point about the table disregards the total votes cast, it is because if I were to include the total votes, I also need to include all the candidates, so that it sums up correctly. That would make the table wide enough not to fit on the screen. The total voted are indeed included, but inside the
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template. Next point about including write in votes, the official published result doesn't include the write in votes (
60;
64;
68), so I haven't. Do you have any reliable source claiming that "prior to the 1976 election, write-in votes were included with the official canvass but were not included in published results", possibly providing the data, which would help me in citing it. Moreover, in a two party state like America, where third party candidates rarely receive more than 5% of the vote, it seems reluctant to me to include write in votes. The percentage points in every cell in approximate, rounded off to 2 places of decimal by the
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template. The formatting and structure of there types of lists have been discussed in previous FLC's, and have been successfully implemented in three current featured lists. (
Arkansas;
Utah;
Washington, D.C.) I try to make every list withing this series consistent, but surely include some or other thing with context unique to that state. For example, the
Washington, D.C. list has write-in candidate votes noted because they have been recorded in the official results, and sometimes the total write-in votes also exceed the number of votes received by the candidate on the third place. I'll see what I can include from your Carter's unpopularity suggestion, but would prefer to hear what you think of this reply. Any further comments on the subject are welcomed. Thanks! –
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By the way, WP:AWB/ WP:JWB is great if you ever need to make changes affecting every list. Happy to help with that if needed. Reywas92 Talk 01:37, 9 October 2021 (UTC) reply
That's all I've got. Good job on redoing the list MWright96 (talk) 20:50, 14 October 2021 (UTC) reply
Support Nice job! MWright96 (talk) 08:53, 15 October 2021 (UTC) reply
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*For purposes of these lists, other candidates are defined as those who were in third place in Alaska.(I'm looking at end notes too). I'm not sure the plural is warranted here, this is a singular list, not lists; suggest For purposes of this list...
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The only image ( File:Alaska in United States.svg) is an original work with the copyright released by the creator. Dugan Murphy ( talk) 23:00, 12 November 2021 (UTC) reply
Promoting. -- Pres N 13:51, 14 November 2021 (UTC) reply