Comment: is there policy on citing dialogue from video games, and is the boldface truly necessary (as opposed to italic or underline).
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T@lk00:34, 7 December 2007 (UTC)reply
Weak oppose:Neutral: This article needs some serious copyediting, some general cleanup (especially in the dialogue citations), and probably some reorganization. I don't have time to write specific issues right now, but I'll take a crack at performing some of this cleanup when I have more time. — KieferSkunk (
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00:50, 7 December 2007 (UTC)reply
I've trimmed some of the unnecessary parts of the dialogue citations, and have copyedited the article (though I have particular writing style, so people are by all means encouraged to point out parts that sound a bit stilted to them). After having read the article top to bottom (which I hadn't done previously) I'm not seeing where reorganization is needed; can you perhaps suggest something, or point out where information doesn't flow for you? Thanks. —
TKD::Talk07:52, 10 December 2007 (UTC)reply
1a (prose). I've started to copyedit, but this could use a little more work.
1b (comprehensiveness). I have an essay anthology, Halo Effect, published by
BenBella Books. I believe that there is some analysis in there about the derivation of Cortana's name from
Curtana, and how that relates to Durandal (cf. the sword
Durendal), an AI in Bungie's previous Marathon series. I will see whether I can incorporate this information over the weekend.
I won't have time to do justice to a major addition until at least tomorrow night, but, if anyone else happens to have Halo Effect, the relevant information appears on pages 91–93. —
TKD::Talk08:40, 7 December 2007 (UTC)reply
Reading more, that same essay goes on to tie the
Cortana Letters (the first advertisement of Halo, back in 1999) to the first Halo 3 trailer. The current article doesn't mention the letters at all, when in fact they were the very first public release of anything directly Halo-related. —
TKD::Talk08:56, 7 December 2007 (UTC)reply
Yes, I would be in favor of putting the relevant material in
Cortana and, to the extent that it began the public's exposure to Halo,
Halo (series). Connections with the Halo 3 E3 2006 trailer can be mentioned in
marketing for Halo 3. There's not going to be enough verifiable material to sustain a full article. —
TKD::Talk09:49, 7 December 2007 (UTC)reply
Update: I still plan on working on my own objections (hopefully some time tonight), and I believe that they are fixable, so please don't close this nomination yet. (Side note: It's amazing how much better one feels after sleeping 28 hours out of 32. :)) If I don't get to this by tomorrow,
ping me. —
TKD::Talk00:26, 10 December 2007 (UTC)reply
Who'd going to get beyond the first half of the first sentence, and still think this is featured article quality: She is an "artificial intelligence"?
Gene Nygaard (
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01:58, 10 December 2007 (UTC)reply
Something like that. That "intelligence" is a noun; but a noun referring to an abstraction, not to a tangible object. We should stick to the way it is used in the
artificial intelligence article; if it is true that some people colloquially abuse the languagein this way, that doesn't mean we need to accept that use under Wikipedia standards. Call her an agent (the "intelligent agent" of the
artificial intelligence article, or some other term appropriately identifying an individual, fictional or not) with artificial intelligence or something like that. Note also that there are possible variants that could still result in an "AI" abbreviation.
Gene Nygaard (
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02:45, 10 December 2007 (UTC)reply
Comment There seems to be a lot of inconsistency in the reference list. Some notes say 'in English', some don't (English or not). Are there any references not in English? In that I case I advise you to refrain from saying 'in English' all together.
Baldrick90 (
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15:02, 13 December 2007 (UTC)reply
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