The Bella Twins has been delisted after a GAR. I don't know anything about this topic, but seemingly these twins were connected in some in-universe story with the two wrestlers who are the subject of the topic. Oddly, the main article in the topic doesn't mention the twins once that I can see, so maybe they never needed to be in the topic at all? I don't feel competent to judge. Maybe the twins should just be removed from the topic, and the rest of it could stand without them; if not, then I guess the topic is now incomplete without that article and fails criterion 1(d). Anyone who knows more about this subject area care to weigh in? -
Bryan Rutherford (
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14:07, 11 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment I am not familiar with this topic area but the original nominator stated
The Bella Twins was included in this topic because they/were
managers for
John Morrison and the Miz (
link). The article in question mostly has dead link issues, too much in-universe info according to the GAR nom, and lead issues so it could be possibly be salvable if an editor has the time. Whether or not it belongs in the topic, per the precedent at related professional wrestling topic teams at
WP:GT, probably yes as they do include the manager within the topic. I have also pinged the professional wrestling wikiproject
[1].
 Spy-cicleđĽÂ Talk?00:53, 23 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment - The article used to include a mention of Nikki Bella as the team's manager. In July 2018, it was decided to remove the "In wrestling" section from articles, which had formerly included such information as managers and signature/finishing moves. People objected to the section as a "cruft magnet" that attracted unsourced information, so it was decided to remove the section entirely from every one of thousands of articles, even if it was properly cited. This came with an assurance that, of course, no information would be lost, as people would undoubtedly rewrite the information into prose sections. As you point out, this has not been done. I know this explanation doesn't solve the problem, but it might clear up part of the mystery.
GaryColemanFan (
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05:40, 23 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment - The Bella Twins were managers of the tag team. Which is weird, since this information isn't included in prose in the article (also, they were part of a feud against The ColĂłns), but in the In wrestling section instead, that was deleted because many reasons, like high level of vandalism or being very hard to source. About the Bella Twins article itself, I tried to remove no notable stuff and in-universe information, but since I'm on the beach, I can't work with the sources. I asked to close it, imrpove the sources in September and open a GAN again.--
HHH Pedrigree (
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07:29, 24 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep â not only is the main article lacking any mentions of The Bella Twins, but I can confirm as a current viewer of WWE that their partnership with John Morrison and The Miz is not still in existence, therefore it was only temporary so does not need to be part of the topic. --
K. Peake20:55, 10 October 2021 (UTC)reply
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Kyle Peake: I think as current viewer of WWE, you can confirm that the partnership of John Morrison and The Miz has also ended (especially after Morrisonâs release), therefore it was only temporary. So by your logic above we donât need the topic at all.
ArmbrustTheHomunculus15:27, 20 December 2021 (UTC)reply
I can confirm that Morrison has since left WWE, but the comment was posted back when they were still active partners. Also, him and the Miz were a team throughout their joint time in the company, while the Bella Twins only joined temporarily so I logically believe this topic can do without them. --
K. Peake07:56, 21 December 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep - Hmm, it's an odd one - They did have a storyline where the two were involved with the Bella twins, but I'd hardly say it made them a part of this topic. As far as I remember it was around the end of 2008/start of 2009. The only time "Bella" appears in either
John Morrison or
The Miz is in Miz's article several years after they had ended their tag team (although they did reunite later). I'd suggest the three articles Miz, Morrison and the tag team article is the scope of the articles required. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski(
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contribs)16:24, 5 January 2022 (UTC)reply
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Lee Vilenski: So one thing I cannot quite figure out. Were
The Bella Twins at one point
managers for
John Morrison and the Miz? The sources that come up seem unreliable and am not familiar with the topic area sourcing to find out properly. If the answer is yes, then per the precedent laid out at related professional wrestling topic teams at
WP:GT should be for them be included in this topic's scope (unless there is a noted exception like they were only manager for a very brief period?). If no, then probably not part of the topic's scope. Regards
 Spy-cicleđĽÂ Talk?20:32, 25 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Director comment - I am inclined to close but I want to be sure if the consensus would just have the Bella Twins removed from topic.
GamerPro6402:29, 30 January 2022 (UTC)reply
The article
Tuvalu at the 2020 Summer Olympics is not GA nominated yet over three months after the event and is even a stub, meaning this topic fails criterion 3.b. heavily. The 2020 Summer Olympics article that was originally missing has now passed as a GA and has no noticeable issues outside of a ref being used in the lead for info that should be sourced in the body, so I no longer believe this topic should be removed. --
K. Peake08:25, 20 December 2021 (UTC)reply
This was nominated for removal by me before any effort to rework the 2020 article had been put in, but I agree with the above that it should be on hold until we know the GAR's result. --
K. Peake09:56, 16 December 2021 (UTC)reply
This topic is nominated for removal because the soundtrack single "
Eyes on Me" is not at GA quality. This article didn't exist the last time the topic was reviewed, but now it seems like it probably needs to be here. -
Bryan Rutherford (
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13:48, 28 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Support removal, with regret. The song should be included within the scope of the game, per
criterion 1(d). Hopefully there is someone who can take the song to GA. However, in the time being, there could be a narrower good topic,
Characters of Final Fantasy VIII, with this as the lead article and the four notable characters as articles within the topic. I would support
Characters of Final Fantasy VIII as a good topic. (It meets the criteria: well-defined scope, enough articles within it, quality GA or above. â
Bilorv (talk)
22:30, 7 July 2022 (UTC)reply
Remove: There seems to have been some discussion of merging that article into the main article, and if that were decided upon, then the rest of the topic could stand, but as long as the consensus is in favor of keeping the armaments article, the topic is now incomplete. -
Bryan Rutherford (
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15:17, 10 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Remove this article is clearly a significant one for the topic and looking at the revision history, it is very clear nobody has been working towards FA candidacy again. --
K. Peake10:03, 17 March 2022 (UTC)reply
The main article has been reclassified as a list, which resulted in its demotion from GA status (since lists can't be Good Articles), so, unless and until someone successfully runs it as a FL, the topic is now incomplete. -
Bryan Rutherford (
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12:25, 5 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Remove. Fairly academic. Looks like
David Fuchs is doing some work to tighten it up and if they wish to bring it to WP:FL I can withdraw this !vote pending assessment but as things stand it's clearly incomplete.
áľšĘá´á´á´Ęá´ę02:42, 6 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Remove the article not being a FL at this point would be like the same for an artist's discography in a GT dedicated to it --
K. Peake17:53, 10 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Remove: I don't feel absolutely clear about the scope of this topic, but the previous promoters evidently judged that the Cycle Center article belonged here. -
Bryan Rutherford (
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17:23, 29 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Remove the McDonald's Cycle Center is in the corner of the park and even has its own sub-section in the main article, therefore the topic is definitely incomplete without this addition. --
K. Peake08:49, 20 October 2021 (UTC)reply