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The Avengers is the biggest franchise within the MCU, so it felt like after four films, and two more announced, it was past time to make a GT of some sort. Due to there not being an article dedicated only to the Avengers franchise, making
Avengers the lead article was the next best option. As a result, the accolades are included as they encompass the films and the actors/individual characters. -- ZooBlazer00:12, 29 March 2024 (UTC)reply
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Avengers (Marvel Cinematic Universe) should be a topic because it is a notable franchise. However, I think the collection of articles is incomplete; for example, there are articles covering the soundtracks and box office records which aren't included and are fundamental to the completeness of the films mentioned. Instead, I'd like to suggest that this topic include only the four current Avengers films, and that each film have a respective subtopic. For example, the Avengers: Infinity War subtopic would include its
accolades,
box office records,
soundtrack and
production. These subtopics can also be noted on the phase topics as well. This way, every article concerning the topic is covered and we still get an Avengers topic. Let me know if this doesn't make sense.
Idiosincrático (
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05:17, 29 March 2024 (UTC)reply
The soundtracks wouldn't make sense here as the scope is more about the team (which is what the lead article is) since it can't be entirely about the films without a dedicated article. The soundtracks have nothing to do with the team/characters. Subtopics could maybe work, but just an FYI, from what I've heard, the box office records lists are frowned upon at FLC, so they could likely ruin some topics since they probably will never get promoted. -- ZooBlazer05:26, 29 March 2024 (UTC)reply
If the
Avengers (MCU) article is about the fictional superheroes and protagonists (like the lead says), should this topic not instead list the roster of characters within the team; ie.
Tony Stark,
Thor etc? I get that "the Avengers is the biggest franchise within the MCU", but there is no article about the 'Avengers film franchise';
Avengers (film series) redirects to
List of Marvel Cinematic Universe films. Topics like
Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase One films, in my opinion, are more than enough coverage for the film series alone. Instead, sub-topics for each individual film is more appropriate. These said sub-topics should include both the soundtracks and any respective box office list/article; a topic constitutes a complete grouping of every article/list related to the lead article (so long as the article/list exists). The reason why the box office records lists are unpopular is because they're not encyclopaedic and content-forking, this was discussed
here with no consensus to delete in 2018. This was done at the time of film release, a nomination to delete or merge now would be probably be more successful.
Idiosincrático (
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06:50, 29 March 2024 (UTC)reply
I think Idiosincrático is right that the Avengers character article should probably by part of a character topic with the individual character articles. I don't think it makes sense to treat it like an Avengers film franchise topic. These films all fit well in the Phase topics that we are already planning. -
adamstom97 (
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12:26, 29 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Support nice effort. And given that somehow there are a lot of separate articles for the MCU incarnations of the characters, the top article can even be used if there's ever an "MCU Avengers members" topic.
igordebraga≠18:46, 29 March 2024 (UTC)reply
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