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Submitting on behalf of
Ashok rp, no opinion yet from me
GRBerry
13:09, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
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- Added links for deleted article
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Hoary (
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03:32, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
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If I got proper time then I will try to write article Prof. Prem Chand Pandey, Founder Director, NCAOR, I asure you Dr. Prem C. Pandey, IIT Bombay is another person and Prof. Prem CHand Pandey, Emeritus Professor IIT Kharagpur is retired person from NCAOR, Goa as a Foundation time director when only official land was aquired and no single quarter was there in 1997. and in 1998 it is officially registered ans NCAOR, goa. He was HOD of MOG group SAC/ISRO, Ahmedabad upto 1996. I have not used single link of PC Pandey, IIT Bombay, but may be repeated link for Prem Chand Pandey it may be improve.
Prem chand pandey student of Allahabad-1972, belongs ISRO/DOD/IIT Kgp and [
http://www.ee.iitb.ac.in/~pcpandey/Prem C. Pandey] belongs IIT B and was student of
BHU and junior in edge
some unexperienced person have used all refernces of
Prem chand pandey in this article As Allahabad resident academic person having back ground in Purvanchal I am familiar with activities of Dr. Pandey
i thinks all references in case of
Prem chand pandey is belong with Earth and planetary science discussion or environmental or oceanographic related centres discussion and much more related ecxactly refernces as NCAOR director as you will not get single references of NCAOR, Director Dr. PC pandey
Prof. Prem Chand Pandey and Second and present Director Shri Rashik Ravindra on any google web page serch or you can take personally the history of Director ships at NCAOR. yes Bhaskar Rao was workink director for some time there after retirement of first director Dr. P.C. Pandey.
Then why you hesitate if pc pandey's iit bombay's reference I have not submitted to you. —Preceding
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- That is hardly comprehensible, but I gather that we once had at
Prem C. Pandey an article. Its lead pointed at Dr. Prem C. Pandey of the Department of Electrical Engineering, Indian Institute of Technology, Bombay
[1], but much of the rest at another scientist of the same name, Prem Chand Pandey, Emeritus Professor, Oceans, Rivers, Atmosphere and Land Sciences of the Indian Institute of Technology Kharagpur
[2]. This rather incomprehensible article was deleted per
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prem C. Pandey and later protected. Now an article at
Prem chand pandey about the professor from from IIT Kharagpur, has been deleted as repost, incidentally by the same editor who originally nominated the AfD, who in any case still needs to be notified of this thread. This speedy deletion is now being contested. --
Tikiwont (
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13:43, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
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- I think you have parsed the request correctly. It was misfiled on the DRV/Active instead of the daily log, so I moved it here. Looking at the protection log, it was also in February recreated at
Prem Chand Pandey, and deleted under
WP:CSD#G4 there. Full set of links at the top now.
GRBerry
14:30, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
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- One part of the passage above reads I will try to write article Prof. Prem Chand Pandey, Founder Director, NCAOR. It seems that we're being told this is not the same person as another Prem C. Pandey. ¶
Prem C. Pandey was largely and I think exclusively about the person at NCAOR. (Hard to be sure, because it was in such idiosyncratic prose.) It was deleted as the result of an AfD.
Prem Chand Pandey and
Prem chand pandey were largely and I think exclusively about the person at NCAOR (same caveat); both were deleted as re-creations of the article deleted via AfD. ¶ Like Tikiwont and GRBerry, I don't understand the appeal above. However, if it is "The article titled
Prem C. Pandey was about somebody who didn't work at NCAOR but I want to write about somebody who did work in NCAOR", then my response is no, the first half of that is factually untrue. --
Hoary (
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15:35, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
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- Endorse deletion. (Remind me - my only involvement has been to protect
Prem C. Pandey and
Prem Chand Pandey - yes?) Before we look at the article, could I have an explanation of the apparent sock puppetry:
Ashok rp and
Ekbal anuj seem to be very similar in their activities. But to latch on to one small point: do I take it that the article proposed for restoration is similar to that currently at
user:Ekbal anuj? That article refers to the Pandey in question having won the NASA Exceptional Scientific Achievment Medal. The AfD discussion also mentions it. It seems to my simple and confused mind that the article being proposed for undeletion is about the same person as was discussed at the AfD. The AfD was pretty unanimous, there is no claim that the person has become notable in the last six month, so - endorse deletion. —
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15:46, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
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- Endorse deletion unless a more comprehensible rationale for restoration is advanced. Ideally such a rationale would include details of which of the criteria at
WP:BIO this person/these people meet(s), and
citations from
reliable sources that
verify that.
Stifle (
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08:59, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
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- Ashok has provided on his talk page a user draft that I moved to
User:Ashok rp/Prem Chand Pandey and invited them to comment here further. Basically he says that the Emeritus Professor at IIT Kharagpur, former NCAOR director and NASA medal winner should be notable enough for an article. I agree with RHaworth that this is the person previously discussed at AfD, though, but I will abstain here from an opinion. --
Tikiwont (
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10:07, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
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- Not yet. Assuming the article in question is
User:Ashok rp/Prem Chand Pandey. This could possibly be a suitable article, justifying a move to mainspace, but not yet. Clean it up. Be sure that the best independent secondary sources covering the subject are cited in the lead. --
SmokeyJoe (
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11:26, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
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- I have given you the entry it may be from old resources or new but if there are many person's are in notable list or in emeritus professor list or SSB Award list or NASA award list of wikipedia, then why Dr. Pandey's names should not be any where. I accept that in his main time he refused offer of NASA people to work for NASA but is in this global world America is not getting any benefit from India Human Resources, which was produced by Dr. Pandey like people. I was doing research on psychology of general wiki commented people on Dr. Prem Chand Pandey, they not know Indian Culture is oldest in the world and he belongs an oldest historical family of Indian Brahmin and he don't give extra value to any country's people. It was his drawback in other peoples eyes who are like a bubble in the modern world having no knowledge of brain power of Indian people and alway not seeing back the American History and only treating which american supported people well tell that will be only true. —Preceding
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09:40, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
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- Please another person about which page you have confusion he have nothing to do with earth snd environmental science and he is electrical department professr in IIT Bombay and BHU Product. Prof. Prem C Pandey's profile
[3]
PCpandey iitb —Preceding
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09:48, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
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- see Professor Prem Chand Pandey(Dr. P.C. Pandey),Emeritus Professor IIT Kharagpur, retired (Founder Director)
NCAOR,
Goa and
University of Allahabad and
SAC/
ISRO
Polar Remote Sensing Scientist he have nothing to do with electrical department.
[4]and —Preceding
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Ashok rp (
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09:56, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
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- Overturn. Seems enough evidence here that a speedy wasn't appropriate, and should at least have been an AFD. And perhaps not even that if the publications are as valid as they seem.
Nfitz (
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22:29, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
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There was an AfD. Look, a series of usernames and IP numbers, all writing in a single, distinctive style, have repeatedly been writing long and only intermittently comprehensible articles on one Prem Chand Pandey of NCAOR. You can see one of these even now at
User:Ekbal anuj. The AfD was closed (by
User:Bongwarrior) with "allow for possible future re-creation" but I presume that this was hurried shorthand for "allow for possible creation of an article on this person that intelligibly describes achievements that are not discernible here". --
Hoary (
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23:20, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
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- That AfD appears to be for a different individual. According to the
archive.org cache the article the previous article was for a professor in Electrical Engineering at
Indian Institute of Technology Bombay in
Mumbai. That page references his
bio and the previous page also notes that he is at
National Centre for Antarctic and Ocean Research in
Goa - but that seems erroneous, and is an odd place for an Electrical Engineer, and is not at all mentioned on his bio. This new article seems to be for a professor in Oceans, Rivers, Atmosphere and Land Sciences at
Indian Institute of Technology Kharagpur which is confirmed by his
bio. They are clearly two different people, and the AfD was for a different person so the Speedy was not appropriate. That the original article had an error with the NCAOR information seems to be part of the problem.
Nfitz (
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23:51, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
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- Good sleuthing! But in the state in which I found the article immediately before I slapped the AfD template on it --
this state (unfortunately only visible to admins, who should also see the
article history) -- the bit about the electrical engineer was pretty much unchanged and the huge majority was instead about Ashok rp's favorite, as even now written up
here. Don't take my word for it, ask another admin to check. (Unfortunately Pandey's deletion seems to have predated
Deletopedia and
Deletionpedia.) --
Hoary (
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01:23, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
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- Yet another example of why this should be an AfD instead of a speedy. Your asking us to debate whether the article is valid, without letting us see the evidence; it just doesn't work. We don't have to accept the article. All we have to do is reject the speedy, and then judge the article on it's own merit - possibly with an AfD. I don't disagree that something might be amiss here. Perhaps we should not be restricting deleted articles to only a few people.
Nfitz (
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02:10, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
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Ashok rp (
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Project list of CORALs IIT Kharagpur —Preceding
undated comment was added at 10:49, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
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