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Category:Slavs by political orientation
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- The result of the discussion was: delete House Blaster ( talk · he/they) 02:40, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: redundant category that conflates nationalities with ethnicity Mason ( talk) 23:49, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. The subcategories are already in Category:People by nationality and political orientation. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:32, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Critics of socialism
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- The result of the discussion was: keep.
House
Blaster (
talk · he/they)
02:40, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Critics of socialism to Category:Critics of Marxism
- Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category Mason ( talk) 23:45, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, none of the articles mentions Marx or Marxism. Possibly delete as a category based on a borderline defining characteristic. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:38, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Socialism is not always inherently Marxist, hence why I believe that a category for it is neccessary. -- Uglytriangle999 ( talk) 18:04, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Constitutionalism
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 16#Category:Constitutionalism
Category:Jewish classical liberals
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- The result of the discussion was: delete House Blaster ( talk · he/they) 02:40, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Do we really need an intersection with ethnicity and liberal/tarians? This doesn't meet the criteria for EGRS as far as I can tell. And the parent of one of the cats was recently deleted/merged
Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_June_3#Classical_liberals.
Mason (
talk)
23:38, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 09:03, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:45, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- I think it's worth keeping, as there are other categories of Jews by political orientation, and there are a fair few Jewish libertarians, including those very seminal to the development of contemporary libertarianism and anarcho-capitalism. -- Uglytriangle999 ( talk) 18:03, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Acquired citizenship
- Propose merging Category:Acquired citizenship to Category:Change of nationality
- Nominator's rationale: Per previous discussions on "Naturalized citizens". Omnis Scientia ( talk) 23:09, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:46, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Reverse merge is actually a better option, per below comments. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:13, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- For the record, the precedents were Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 1#People with acquired citizenship or Naturalized citizens and Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 9#Category:People with acquired citizenship. – Fayenatic London 12:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Manual reverse merge would be better, I think, because in some cases people become dual nationals without losing the first nationality – in which case they are acquiring rather than changing. Although "Change of nationality" is part of the name of the subcat Category:Change of nationality in sport, that name does not match its stated scope which is "Sportspeople who have represented more than one nation". – Fayenatic London 12:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Reverse merge. You don't have to change your original nationality to acquire a new one. Many people have more than one nationality. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 12:47, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Category:District 1 of Zürich
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- The result of the discussion was: merge House Blaster ( talk · he/they) 02:41, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:District 1 of Zürich to Category:Altstadt (Zürich)
- Nominator's rationale: Same district Solidest ( talk) 22:39, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:47, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Jazzland Records (1960) albums
- Propose merging Category:Jazzland Records (1960) albums to Category:Jazzland Records albums
- Nominator's rationale: Not sure why two categories were created, but now releases in two categories belong to the same label. The only other label with a similar name also already has its own category: Category:Jazzland Recordings albums. Solidest ( talk) 22:26, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment, the article name is Riverside Records. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:50, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Jazzland seems to be a sublabel of it. Riverside Records discography says it's subsidiary, Discogs says it's companion label. Solidest ( talk) 12:16, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Category:Fictional villains
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- The result of the discussion was: merge House Blaster ( talk · he/they) 02:41, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Fictional villains to Category:Villains
- Nominator's rationale: It is always correct to use the word "Villains" only in a fictional context. Such classification is not used in encyclopedias to characterize real humans.
Solidest (
talk)
22:08, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, it was already nominated for merge once Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 August 10#Category:Fictional villains, but AHI-3000 did a split again a year ago. Solidest ( talk) 22:11, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per precedent. Again, please keep a redirect. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:55, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Merge Again, nothing has changed here, and if possible warn AHI about going blatantly against precedent just because you feel like it. Discussions exist for a reason, believe it or not.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ)
10:59, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
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Comment: Something has changed. There is now
Category:Villains in mythology and legend
MSMST1543 (
talk)
21:05, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Bangladesh–Bahrain relations
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- The result of the discussion was: merge House Blaster ( talk · he/they) 02:41, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Bangladesh–Bahrain relations to Category:Bahrain–Bangladesh relations
- Nominator's rationale: Duplicates. Solidest ( talk) 18:46, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom.
Marcocapelle (
talk)
19:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 22:10, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Merge Acoording to the standard naming convention, the correct order is Bahrain–Bangladesh relations. The nominee contains only the main article and the target contains only a category for ambassadors. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 22:27, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Boxing matches at Madison Square Garden
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 16#Category:Boxing matches at Madison Square Garden
Category:Bengali cinema
- Propose renaming Category:Cinema of West Bengal to Category:Bengali cinema, India
- Nominator's rationale: The category should be changed since the main article's name was changed from Cinema of West Bengal to Bengali cinema, India. Jayanthkumar123 ( talk) 14:43, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment, it is not a straightforward case of WP:C2D because nominator moved the article without RM. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:51, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- "Bengali cinema in India" would be better, but I suggest reverting the undiscussed page move instead for now, as this is part of Category:Culture of West Bengal, even though "[language] cinema" is the dominant naming format in Category:Indian film industries. @ Jayanthkumar123: please see WP:RM#CM for how to start a discussion on a contested page move. – Fayenatic London 12:31, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Category:Mughals
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- The result of the discussion was: delete House Blaster ( talk · he/they) 02:42, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: This newly created category seems redundant with Category:Mughal Empire and it's many subcats. Gjs238 ( talk) 14:13, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, the articles are already in Category:17th-century Mughal Empire people. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:54, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Jersey equestrians
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- The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated.
House
Blaster (
talk · he/they)
02:42, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Propose splitting Category:Jersey male equestrians to Category:Jersey sportsmen and Category:British male equestrians
- Propose deleting Category:Jersey equestrians ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Delete "Jersey equestrians" and dual merge "Jersey male equestrians" per nom. Only one category layer and one article. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 13:30, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:56, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Baltic Germans
- Propose merging Category:Baltic Germans to Category:Baltic-German culture
- Nominator's rationale: Three related categories:
I am not sure which way to merge, but current situation makes a mess Estopedist1 ( talk) 11:17, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- what I think should happen is it should be merged into "Category:Baltic-German people", than the page should be split into a new catigory called "Category:Lists of Baltic-German German people". the "Category:Baltic-German culture" should be made a subcategory of Baltic-German people. Zyxrq ( talk) 14:47, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep as parent category of
Category:Baltic-German people and
Category:Baltic-German culture which are clearly different subcategories. Presumably there is also room for a
Category:Baltic-German history.
Marcocapelle (
talk)
20:00, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- I generally agree.
Zyxrq (
talk)
20:22, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- @
Marcocapelle: in general,
Baltic Germans (see this article) means "Baltic-German people". Umbrella concept should be something like "Baltic German world" (e.g. Wikidata bundle
Wikidata:Q8459480)
Estopedist1 (
talk)
20:50, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Ethnic categories are normally organized as a topic category on top and a "people" subcategory for biographies.
Marcocapelle (
talk)
20:53, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- @ Estopedist1 @ Marcocapelle I think this is kind of on topic but you guys think it would be Appropriate to create a new Template such as, Template:Baltic-Germans similar to Template:Baltic states for organizational purposes? Zyxrq ( talk) 01:31, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Ethnic categories are normally organized as a topic category on top and a "people" subcategory for biographies.
Marcocapelle (
talk)
20:53, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- @
Marcocapelle: in general,
Baltic Germans (see this article) means "Baltic-German people". Umbrella concept should be something like "Baltic German world" (e.g. Wikidata bundle
Wikidata:Q8459480)
Estopedist1 (
talk)
20:50, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- I generally agree.
Zyxrq (
talk)
20:22, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
Category:Thai television series debuts by decade
- Nominator's rationale: This is an umbrella category for a whole slew of subcategories, which each have a slew of subcategories. However, each is sparsely populated. This is a logical area for a navigation template, something that there may be a bot already to populate. I am suggesting we discuss this template with a view to incorporating the whole hierarchy of content into a navigation template. If that discussion reaches that conclusion, then processes should be put in hand to populate the template and depopulate the sub and sub-sub categories, which may then be deleted as empty. 🇺🇦
FiddleTimtrent
FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦
07:17, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. What? Why would we create a template for unrelated entries that users will likely not ever use? This category system is exactly how this should be handled and how it is handled for other countries - see Category:Television series debuts by country and decade. This is a very strange deletion nomination. Gonnym ( talk) 07:37, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. The question should perhaps be what to do with the sparsely-populated early year subcats of Category:Thai television series debuts by year. A nomination to merge 1965, 1980, 1990, 1991 and 1999 to their decade parents would probably gain support. – Fayenatic London 08:59, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I would support that. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:15, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- For the record, some of the currently-empty subcats were created by
วรุฒ หิ่มสาใจ and later emptied by the same editor, having been used temporarily for some series that started and finished within one year. –
Fayenatic
London
09:23, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- It seems they've created a tree that I don't think exists in other countries. Category:1990 Thai television dramas instead of Category:1990 Thai television series debuts and Category:1990s Thai drama television series (see Category:2010s American drama television series). Gonnym ( talk) 11:50, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
Category:Cartoon Network Studios pilots and shorts
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- The result of the discussion was: split. House Blaster ( talk · he/they) 02:44, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: There isn't anything related between a short and a television pilot. This might mean there isn't enough content to justify both categories but that isn't a reason to create this unrelated category. Gonnym ( talk) 06:44, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Split per nom. Possibly one or both of them should be upmerged to the parent categories in a later stage, but let's first see what the split brings us. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:18, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Public art by indigenous artists from the Americas
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- The result of the discussion was: delete House Blaster ( talk · he/they) 02:44, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: delete, only one article in the category, this is not helpful for navigation to related articles. There is no need to merge, the article is already in other subcategories of the parents. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:18, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Urban development in India
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- The result of the discussion was: merge House Blaster ( talk · he/they) 21:07, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Urban development in India to Category:Urban planning in India
- Nominator's rationale: downmerge, no clear distinction, Urban development redirects to Urban planning and there is no tree for Category:Urban development by country. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:47, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Merge as per nom. Gjs238 ( talk) 14:06, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
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