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Support Per nom. Whether a species is endangered would be defining... for the species. It wouldn't carry over to the character. (Also, it opens a can of worms of conflating fictional species that RESEMBLE real-life endangered species with actually being part of a fictional endangered species).
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
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Delete - I fail to see the encyclopedic value of organizing the numerous characters in fiction as to whether their (often also fictional) species is endangered or not.
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Delete A fair number of these appear to be the last of their species as a backstory. Backstories of characters prior to their appearance in the main story line doesn't usually seem defining. -
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Nominator's rationale:Merge and redirect, deleting parents that will become empty. This hierarchy is
WP:SHAREDNAME, a subset of Sri Lanka's history covering
British Ceylon 1815–1948 and the independent
Dominion of Ceylon 1948–1972. When the categories were created, they were required by the chronology templates, but now those templates will resolve redirects at such category names. –
FayenaticLondon10:29, 30 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Semi-oppose and propose a different fix. This category tree is a complete mess. I'm semi-opposing this proposal because it isn't completely fixing the issue. There are a few distinct entities here. Instead of placing stuff in a "x in Ceylon" and "x in Sri Lanka" categories, they should be in more precise and correct categories. So anything that belongs to
British Ceylon or
Dominion of Ceylon should be in those categories. Notice that in
Category:British Ceylon, there is not even one correct "yyyy in British Ceylon" category. (feel free to fix my indent level).
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08:56, 3 January 2024 (UTC)reply
@
Gonnym: please explain why you think it would be better to use longer category names. IMHO it would be unnecessarily specific to use "YYYY in British Ceylon" or "YYYY in the Dominion of Ceylon" – those terms are needed on the articles
British Ceylon and
Dominion of Ceylon to disambiguate those two periods, but I do not see a need for the chronology categories to match the full regime name. The chronology categories capture stuff that happened in one entity, namely the island – in this case matching the territory of a current country – with continuity irrespective of historical regime changes. The only border change was the British subjugation of Kandy, and it would be unnecessarily detailed to reflect that in category names (unlike e.g.
Category:Years in British Malaya which had a more complex history). –
FayenaticLondon11:26, 6 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Well it depends on how you view things. I think the category should be YYYY in country and not YYYY in island, as that is basically how we do it for most categories. The only times I've seen where we do it like you proposed is when the places have a similar names and then we oddly think it's ok to do that. I don't.
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Support This is more standard to use the current country name overall and prior names for the specific period where readers are more likely to find the articles they're looking for. I take Gonnym's point that this tree needs work beyond this nomination though. -
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Oppose, first of all there is no rationale for deletion, only for renaming. But nowhere else a distinction is being made for converts, there is no
Category:Persecution of Christian converts, so I am not convinced we should make that distinction in Iran. Note that potentially the category may also include persecution of members of the Assyrian Church in Iran who weren't converts.
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Apologies if I put this in the wrong place; this was only for renaming instead of deletion. But I take on board what you say about the Assyrian Church in Iran, although as far as I can tell there is nobody in the category from that denomination (unless I have missed something).
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Oppose. There's no need to narrow the scope of the category and per Marco, no one else makes the distinction for the other categories
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Support The naming makes it clearer that this has to be defining trait, which is the intent of categories. Not opposed to a potential merge for some of these but that can be better handled in a follow up nom. -
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Category:20th-century executions of Vietnamese people
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The total size is what I'm discussing, not the number in just the child category. I don't think there's a need to diffuse by century when there are so few in total.
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Category:Films where the director died during filming
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"Is there a more concise way to do it?" Concise way to do what? It may be interesting, but that doesn't mean the category is defining.
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Delete Clearly trivial as a category. I'm not convince a list could pass
WP:NLIST so I don't want to make that a condition of this nomination, but no objection if someone wants to try that independently of CFD. -
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Nominator's rationale: All nominated categories for merging have just one article. Upmerge the categories and delete some redundant layers that will be empty post-merge. –
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Oppose Not all cathedrals are Roman Catholic. Merging will break the navigation purpose of these schemes.
Your opposition makes no sense. I'm merging Roman Catholic cathedrals to Cathedrals AND Roman Catholic churches. In no way did I imply that all Cathedrals are Roman Catholic because obviously they are not. –
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Support per nom. And I agree that the opposition doesn't make sense as the only cathedrals being nominated are ROMAN CATHOLIC.
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Nominator's rationale: I'm not really sure what to do with this category. The category is described as "These princes started a rebellion during the reign of a relative in order to seize the throne for themselves. They should be distinguished from rival princes who waged a war of succession when the ruler had recently died (or was otherwise incapacitated such as being deposed, imprisoned, expelled, fallen seriously ill etc.) and no other ruler had consolidated their reign yet. See also Category:Heirs apparent who never acceded and Category:Usurpers." However this seems hard to define. If it is keep, it should be renamed to "Rebel princes" as otherwise it sounds like a personality trait rather than someone who was a rebel (modeled off of
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Nominator's rationale: The vast majority of the categories in here are nationality and continent based. I'm struggling to see how most of these are "culture"
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Comment. I think that the change would be helpful based on the categories in there. However, this nomination as written is not helpful, nor is the linked discussion closed yet.
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge as the only page in here isn't really about the history of stamps. Also if kept, it needs to be renamed to Philately of the Czech Republic
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Oppose - Philately in British Palestine is a notable topic on its own right with three articles. If anything it is continued via
Category:Philately of Israel. Nothing to do with the much later Palestinian Authority or State of Palestine created in 1990s and 2010s accordingly.
Category:Philately of Palestine is rather a vague category list, not a category standalone and I'm not sure whether it is useful at all grouping rather unrelated British Palestine and Palestinian Authority.
GreyShark (
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Merge for Now per
WP:MFN. No conceptual objection to this category but there is not enough current content to warrant a subcategory and the parent category isn't so large these would be hard to find. If more content appears, by all means reacreate. -
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I don't know if that's a safe assumption given that the category create likes to remove people from the modern nation categories.
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@
Marcocapelle, for a consensus, do you agree with nomination? And just to add, I checked and the Actors from San Fernando Valley are also in appropriate subcats so I've changed that to "delete" as well.
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Nominator's rationale:Rename and redirect as anachronistic. The suggested target names follow the article
Ottoman Arabia. The current names could all be redirected to aid navigation from C20 categories. –
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Nominator's rationale: Two issues with this category: 1°) none of the real or fictional events described as
Children's Crusade ever reached Muslim lands, so Christians is self-implied and 2°) the lone article currently in the category,
Philip II of France, is only remotely related to such events, which are not mentioned on that article at all.
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Nominator's rationale: Only one article,
Nīþ, which is not even really about sexuality. It is about social stigma associated with, by order of importance as developed in the article: crime, witchcraft, disability and "effeminacy".
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