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Category:Musicals about writers
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Category:Socialist rulers
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Nominator's rationale:WP:ARBITRARYCAT,
WP:OVERLAPCAT.
Category:Rulers is currently a child of
Category:Sovereignty suggesting that "rulers" are sovereign. Some are not rulers, they were elected. Some are not socialists, or are distingished as communists. Most are in parallel related categories, not aid to navigation.
Doubt about renaming the three other categories, "communist leaders" may suggest leaders of a communist party, while "communist rulers" clearly refers to leaders of a country.
Marcocapelle (
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19:42, 13 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete. Politicians and rulers should be categorized by actual regime rather than catch-all terms like socialist which cover too many different things. In turn, if supported by reliable sources, the regime may be placed in an appropriate socialism category.
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11:53, 15 February 2023 (UTC)reply
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People depicted in music
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Depictions of... seems logical and helpful, although (and I realize that this is not a deletion discussion) I note that "Spartacus" is a very small category, with just three items, all unrelated to each other, and one of them does not clearly belong (at least, the lengthy article about
Spartacus (The Farm album) does not provide any information linking it with the historical Spartacus; the only obvious connection is the name). I suppose the motion picture soundtrack could go in this category, if there were such an article. There is an extensive pop culture section of
Spartacus, containing several musical items (only one or two with articles) that aren't part of the category—so I suggest that this particular category needs attention!
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15:22, 6 February 2023 (UTC)reply
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Nominator's rationale: Bundled nomination for renaming
Polish-Lithuanian office-holders names, to make them consistent and shorter. Also I propose "Vice-Chancellor" instead of "Deputy Chancellor" as the one used by
WP:RSMarcelus (
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17:00, 5 February 2023 (UTC)reply
That's very anglo-centric view, because in Lithuania university leaders are called rectors or prorectors. Titles of chancellors and vice-chancellors function in many dfferent types of institutions, political, educational, religious, masonic etc. But "Lithuanian Vice-Chancellor" can only mean vicecancellarius, leader of the lesser chancellery of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania.
Marcelus (
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15:43, 6 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Can you elaborate? They weren't "completely" different one was part of the other, and officials of the GDL were also officials of PLC
Marcelus (
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21:01, 6 February 2023 (UTC)reply
They were different states. You start with two states (the Kingdom of Poland and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania). You end with one state - the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Obfuscation of these facts should be avoided.
Laurel Lodged (
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13:01, 8 February 2023 (UTC)reply
It's much complicated than that; Kingdom of Poland and GDL formed one state -> PLC, but didn't cease to exist on their own. For examples offices were separate (there was Polish Grand Hetman and Lithuanian Grand Hetman etc.). It's not "obfuscation" but acknowleding the fact that reality is much more complex, and the premodern states functioned on different basis than moder ones.
Marcelus (
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13:28, 8 February 2023 (UTC)reply
None of these positions (hetmans, grand chancellors, grand treasurers and the rest) exist in modern Lithuania, so it would not be confusing.
Cukrakalnis (
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14:18, 7 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Oppose —
WP:C2C and
WP:C2D. Misusing Lithuanian
demonym for
nationality. Checking the articles, roughly half of these persons were not Lithuanian and should not be miscategorized as such. For example, "Field Hetman"
Hrehory Chodkiewicz was Ruthenian, and should not be miscategorized under
Category:Lithuanian Field Hetmans. Duchy and Commonwealth are not the same, any more than Republic and Empire are the same. Use the well-known and documented names. Full names prevent editors from accidental confusion that requires cleanup. Cleanup is tedious and time consuming. William Allen Simpson (
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03:00, 13 February 2023 (UTC)reply
"Lithuanian Field Hetman" was literally his title, that are well documented. Also he was Lithuanian because he lived in the Lithuanian state.
Marcelus (
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09:30, 13 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Also those Poles, Ruthenians, and Ukrainians became (Little) Russians after they were conquered by the Russian Empire.sarcasm The Ukrainians themselves seem to have a different view, and seem willing to die for it. Note that we don't categorize Greeks or Egyptians or Britains as Romans after they were conquered either. That's why we have these detailed suffix standards. Keep them. William Allen Simpson (
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11:14, 13 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Support generally -- I do not think the objection to vice-chancellor is sound: the British use of the term is very much as local one, due to the Chancellor of universities having become a figurehead position. I do not think LL's objection that Lithuania and Poland-Lithuania are distinct has any merit: one succeeded the other, so that it is quite likely that there was a continuous succession where an office operated only in Lithuania.
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15:33, 19 February 2023 (UTC)reply
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Category:AC using state parameter
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Rename. They are tracking categories, and liable to be populated again if someone reverts a page or uses the parameter in these ways. If the categories were deleted and later re-created, that would lose the page history and the interwiki connections. –
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Category:Basketball venues in Indonesia by city
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Category:Kabaddi venues by country
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Category:Black comedy video games
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Category:Manitoba radio station stubs
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Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated stub category with no record of approval by WikiProject Stub Sorting. As always, stub categories have a much, much higher price for creation than regular content categories do, and are not justified until there are at least 60 articles to file in them -- much below that, a stub template is only allowed to sort its entries into parent categories, like the proposed targets, rather than getting its own dedicated stub category. And for that very reason, stub categories have to be approved by the wikiproject, and are not free for just any editor to create at their own whim. So {{Manitoba-radio-station-stub}} should just go back to sorting its entries in the same categories it did until this got created in 2021, because there just aren't the numbers to justify a standalone category here.
Bearcat (
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00:38, 13 February 2023 (UTC)reply
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