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Transgender people by occupation

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 20:49, 2 August 2022 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge for consistency, the LGBT parent categories are not otherwise diffused by Lesbian, Gay or Bisexual. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:30, 3 July 2022 (UTC) reply
I accept that that may be a legitimate exception. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 19:26, 11 July 2022 (UTC) reply
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Category:Conductors (music)

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The result of the discussion was: keep. – Fayenatic London 20:07, 10 July 2022 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:NATURALDISAMBIGUATION is available, so we shouldn't need to disambiguate in parentheses. Will affect a bunch of subcategories, which should be renamed along with the parent. {{u| Sdkb}}  talk 17:25, 3 July 2022 (UTC)Edited 14:32, 4 July 2022 (UTC) reply
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Category:Roman Catholic prince-bishops in the Holy Roman Empire

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 20:52, 2 August 2022 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: It is safe to assume that almost all prince-bishops in the Holy Roman Empire were Catholic. Only a few were Lutheran. Even for them, the title of "prince-bishop" was more colloquial than offical since they were hardly ever, with rare exceptions, conferred with the regalia by the Emperor. Lutherans were usually called "administrartors" in these rare cases. In any case, they have their own category: Category:Lutheran bishops and administrators of German prince-bishoprics. A dichotomy in categorisation is usually discouraged. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 16:21, 3 July 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Comment, this proposal seems to result in the Catholic prince-bishops no longer being part of the Catholic bishops tree, at least not via this navigation route. Isn't that a problem? Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:41, 3 July 2022 (UTC) reply
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Category:Roman Catholic archbishops in the Prince-Archbishopric of Salzburg

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 20:52, 2 August 2022 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per discussion. No need to disambiguate for Catholic as there were never any Protestant price-archbishops. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 16:08, 3 July 2022 (UTC) reply
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Category:Transgender clergy

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) JBchrch talk 19:52, 21 July 2022 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete for consistency, Category:LGBT clergy is not otherwise diffused by Lesbian, Gay or Bisexual. There is no need to merge because all articles are already in an LGBT Christian or Jewish clergy subcategory. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:58, 3 July 2022 (UTC) reply
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Category:Generalbezirk Litauen

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Category:History in fiction

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 20:54, 2 August 2022 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: rename to clarify the actual purpose of the category. Marcocapelle ( talk) 11:08, 2 May 2022 (UTC) reply

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Category:Historical letters

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The meaning of the category is ambiguous, with even editors that !voted keep varying in interpretation. The category is also poorly defined (how far back is history?) - any cut-off becomes an ARBITRARYCAT. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 21:00, 2 August 2022 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Category:Historical letters is either not very useful or an active attractive nuisance.
The category's name has two possible interpretations: (a) letters written in the past, and (b) letters about history. Interpretation (a) is not useful - the vast majority of letters with Wikipedia articles will have already been written; if this is the intended interpretation, just about all of Category:Letters (message) should go in to it. Interpretation (b) could be useful, and it's supported by the cat being a subcat of Category:Works about history... but it's not actually how it's being used: not one single article is covering a letter about history (at most, they're primary sources relaying then-current events); hence, if interpretation (b) is intended, it's being entirely misused.
It should be deleted and upmerged into Category:Letters (message). If a 'letters about history' category is needed, it should be created with an unambiguous name, so that 'letters within history' don't get miscategorised into it - but, considering that there's no (e.g.) 'letters about art' or 'letters about politics' category, I am suspicious of the desirability of such a category absent a broader initiative around topicalisation. FrankSpheres ( talk) 17:47, 3 May 2022 (UTC) reply
  • On the contrary, by century categories are very useful in finding content from the same period. This category is all over the place ranging from antiquity to 19th century which isn't useful at all. Marcocapelle ( talk) 02:20, 5 May 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep -- Letters are an important class of historical document. At some periods chronicles are another. Much of my research was based on title deeds, accounts and litigation records, which are more classes of historical documents. It may be that some letters do not deserve to be included or should be split into new subcategories, but I see no valid reason for deletion. Peterkingiron ( talk) 15:21, 8 May 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep -- All epistolary content is related to each other thematically and epistemologically; while the current category may serve as a sort of waste-paper basket, it is clear that most editors have interpreted it as meaning 'letters with historical notability/content'. That is a perfectly sensible category—I would not be opposed to renaming on these lines, but deletion is too far.~~ AirshipJungleman29 ( talk) 23:37, 9 May 2022 (UTC) reply

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Category:Investigations

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 21:02, 2 August 2022 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Newly created category that references a catmain of Investigation which is a pretty good hint that this isn't a "natural" category. It's a mishmash, mostly Category:Criminal investigation with a few random ones like investigations of the paranormal. A good clue is that it was created without categories, I'm not sure where in the category hierarchy it would go. Le Deluge ( talk) 22:59, 13 May 2022 (UTC) reply
My intention was to have a category for all article dedicated to specific investigations, such as Special Counsel investigation (2017–2019), Investigation into the 2012 Benghazi attack, etc. If some articles and/or subcategories are removed so that it only lists specific investigations then would you still be opposed to it?   selfworm Talk) 23:16, 13 May 2022 (UTC) reply
I've made the changes that I suggested above. What do you think?   selfworm Talk) 23:27, 13 May 2022 (UTC) reply

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Category:Fictional councillors

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fictional politicians. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 23:47, 17 July 2022 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: rename per precedent in this earlier discussion. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:24, 3 July 2022 (UTC) reply
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1918-1922 in the Soviet Union

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The result of the discussion was: merge/rename all. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 21:03, 2 August 2022 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge anachronistic categories, the Soviet Union was established 30 December 1922. Marcocapelle ( talk) 14:41, 3 July 2022 (UTC) reply
Merge. As someone who created at least one of these (hence it coming up on my watchlist) I should have really paid closer attention to the years! Dan Carkner ( talk) 15:04, 3 July 2022 (UTC) reply
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Category:Fiction about observances honoring the dead

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Death in fiction. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 23:55, 17 July 2022 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT considering there are only two such observances currently here. Should be merged into Category:Death in fiction and Category:Fiction about observances. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 09:47, 3 July 2022 (UTC) reply
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Category:Death in fiction

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The result of the discussion was: rename all. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 21:06, 2 August 2022 (UTC) reply

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Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEF, make the category's name defining. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 09:36, 3 July 2022 (UTC) reply
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Category:Crime in fiction

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The result of the discussion was: rename. ✗ plicit 01:25, 12 August 2022 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEF, make the category's name defining. Alternatively, could be merged with Category:Crime fiction, I'm not really sure what the difference is. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 09:34, 3 July 2022 (UTC) reply
 Support per nom. ―  Qwerfjkl talk 21:11, 2 August 2022 (UTC) reply
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Category:Cameras in fiction

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Fiction about photography. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 21:12, 2 August 2022 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The two categories overlap as far as I can tell, but this category is not defining while the merge target is. I suggest merging the categories, while removing anything that is not "about" cameras but simply features them. Alternatively, could be renamed Category:Fiction about photography and made a subcategory. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 09:24, 3 July 2022 (UTC) reply
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Category:Tamil psychological thriller films

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The result of the discussion was: Keep & rename to 'Tamil-language'. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 21:14, 2 August 2022 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: We do not create genre categories on the basis of language. That is why I cannot find "Category:English-language psychological thriller films" or "Category:Psychological thriller films by language". Kailash29792 (talk) 09:31, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply
Keep -- . There is no need to merge the category:"Tamil psychological thriller films" into the Category:"Indian psychological thriller films" because 1) Tamil category is placed under the Category:"Indian psychological thriller films" as a sub-category; 2) It is easy for Tamil readers to search for Tamil film pages under this category instead of looking through all the Indian films, so it will be less time consuming for Tamil readers; 3) Tamil films are not only released from India but also from other countries. This Tamil category will help in the future to collect those film details as well. So, the major point is this: Tamil films are produced all over the world and no need to put them under Indian film category alone. Thanks for asking me to give my comments.-- Nan ( talk) 10:48, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply
@ Marcocapelle:, I do not have privilege to rename the category or move to a new title as you have suggested to include "Tamil-language" in the title. May be an admin can help with this renaming work? Thanks.-- Nan ( talk) 12:59, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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Category:West Prussia

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Category:Green Bay Packers broadcast stations

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The result of the discussion was: delete/selectively upmerge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 21:18, 2 August 2022 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: User:Mrschimpf says it's a "pointless category" Mvcg66b3r ( talk) 07:48, 23 June 2022 (UTC) reply
But List of Green Bay Packers broadcasters includes both radio and tv. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 19:21, 1 July 2022 (UTC) reply

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Category:Judeo-Tat theatre

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